RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991): PH Carpool

RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991): PH Carpool

Monday 29th February 2016

Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991): PH Carpool

Thought all fast 911s were being holed up in collections? Think again!



Name: Ronan McGrath
Car: 2016 Porsche GT3 RS
Owned since: September 2015
Previously owned: "Currently in garage: 2005 Smart ForTwo, 2003 Mercedes SL500, 2007 997.I GT3 RS, 2008 Porsche Cayenne, 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Previous cars include Toyota Celica, Honda Prelude, Buick Park Avenue, Oldsmobile Aurora, BMW E39 540i, BMW E39 M5, BMW 645i, BMW E63 M6, Porsche 997.II GT3 RS, VW Touareg V8 and others."

A Porsche signed by Porsche!
A Porsche signed by Porsche!
Why I bought it:
"This is my third GT3 RS. I became addicted to them after my first day driving at the Nurburgring with another marque and noticing the prevalence of Porsches at the track. I cadged a passenger lap in a 996 GT3 and the car was so amazingly responsive I had to have one. Since that day 10 years ago I have always had them.

"Brilliant as the earlier cars are on the track, the 997.II in particular, I have always found them to be fairly nervous cars in the wet; my first trip on the Nordschleife with the 997.II in heavy rain was far from being fun, with limited front end grip. Since there was no way to test a 991 RS in advance given the rarity of the cars I talked to some contacts. It was clear that the new car was going to be huge advance in terms of grip. I was much more interested in the handling than in the horsepower."

What I wish I had known:
"I did not like the Ultra Violet colour in photos but in reality it is stunning. Lava Orange is also much nicer in reality but not quite up to the visual impact of the purple."

Another Euro trip is planned for Canada-based Ronan
Another Euro trip is planned for Canada-based Ronan
Things I love:
"The level of grip on the car is, by a huge margin the best I have ever experienced. Every time I visit the 'ring I get an instructor for the first day as a refresher, and we had an opportunity to run the F1 track in a rainstorm. Daniel Schwerzfeld, my instructor, did the first lap and then I had the opportunity to do 25 in the driver's seat. Being able to trail brake in the rain would have been impossible in the earlier cars. Pushing up to the limit of adhesion the car understeers gently without intervention of the stability system, which only engaged when I deliberately drove far too hard into a sharp curve. The Nordschleife was also slippery but the level of driver confidence that this car instills is a vast improvement over any other car I have driven there.

"The car is blindingly quick, but I generally do not redline my cars, so the improved performance compared to the 997.II is not extreme. The overall design is very purposeful and clearly depicts a car ready for the track. Surprisingly, it is a much more comfortable car on the road, with softer suspension that makes it quite usable as a daily driver. I much prefer the smaller steering wheel, while the 991 interior is a big improvement over the 997. The optional 90-litre tank is a blessing for a track day.

"There has been endless discussion about no manual option. In honesty I would have gone PDK anyway. It is unbelievably fast and for me does not disconnect me from the car - it does exactly what I want. I had a paddle shift in my M6 (the very compromised SMG) but I learned how to shift it smoothly so this was not a big transition. I still have a manual car when I want the extra pedal."

Fuel consumption not being measured at present...
Fuel consumption not being measured at present...
Things I hate:
"Sadly in North America we do not get roll cages or plastic windows, even as options. The cars do not come with mounting points for a cage either. The silliest item in the car is the pit lane speed limiter. I know how to read a speedo and will never use this. I miss having a traditional handbrake, but the 991 console design precludes this. I have no idea what launch control is for beyond leaving streaks on the ground. I had it on my M6 and never engaged it once in six years of ownership, though I tried it at a sales event.

"The car sounds good when pushed but, for me, the sound of the old Mezger at full wail is chillingly beautiful. Luckily I still have my 997.I to experience that."

Costs:
"The car has an extended warranty so at this stage costs are minimal. There has been one recall so far, for new coils and spark plugs, and there is a second one on some cars for a new gearbox, but it is not yet clear if this car is affected.

"The car is driven quite hard so I have not measured fuel consumption!"

This is definitely a 911 RS that gets used
This is definitely a 911 RS that gets used
Where it has been:
"After factory pick-up I drove the car to Zell am See, the home of the Porsche family and attended the wonderful International Porsche Tage, personally sponsored by Dr Wolfgang Porsche who attended almost every event and kindly autographed the car. Porsche fans from all over Europe came to this heavily oversubscribed event and to see 959s, 2.7 Carreras and all sort of other models being driven hard was a thrill. I owe a debt of thanks to fellow PHer Major Dad who managed to get me on the list for the event.

"Following the three-day event I had plotted a route through Innsbruck, Leipzig, Dresden and up to Hamburg where there is a superb collection of early VW and Porsche cars, many of the prototypes. The Museum Prototyp is a must-see. I had arranged a visit on a closed day but horrible weather prevented me from doing am outdoor shoot with the oldest Porsche of all, the 1939 Type 64. (Yes, it was originally a VW but the Porsche family had it retitled in 1946). Seeing the two cars together with almost 80 years between them left me with an impression of just how strong the DNA is with the 35hp car still having some family resemblance to its 500hp descendant.

"I avoid 'ring trips at weekends because the mid-week crowds are light and offer the chance to use a relatively empty track; however, it did close early when I was there due to heavy rain and fog. Rounding the slippery Kallenhard turn I encountered an immobile Subaru facing me having bounced off the Armco. If the paint had been thicker we would have had contact. This was the moment where the grip was simply otherworldly and a fast move to avoid a collision succeeded. Had I been in one of the earlier cars in the same conditions I would have hit him. The bespoke parts for the RS like the carbon fibre front end are staggeringly expensive, so damage to them is a major claim.

"A final few days through Berlin, and then it was time for the final return to Zuffenhausen. There were some open Autobahn stretches and I hooked up with an RS6 that was very quick. At 300kph (186mph) the car was utterly planted, all of the downforce in play. The 997.II RS is very capable at this sped also but the 997.I lifts alarmingly.

"Today the car is in the garage in Canada, unusable in the winter, but soon it will be spring..."

The colour choice was this or Ultra Violet...
The colour choice was this or Ultra Violet...
What's next?
"With this car there will be a trip out to the huge Porsche Parade in Vermont in June and the odd track day also, but there is nowhere to compare to the 'ring or Spa here. I have done a transatlantic trip before though, so maybe it will be back where it is used best - in Germany.

"The car will be kept stock as I generally do. My next cars will be of a more mundane variety. The workhorse Cayenne and the elderly Smart will be replaced... I wonder if a Focus RS might pass as a shopping car replacement for the Smart?"

 

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Dafuq

Original Poster:

371 posts

171 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Hands clapping above head here, great honest opinion of what must be your latest toy in the box.

Outstanding garage also. Well played.

Debaser

6,015 posts

262 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Great to see someone enjoying their car.

Blackbird425

1,906 posts

106 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Beautifully done.

Don't get the bit about not redlining the cars though - that seems a little strange in something this track focused? Not sure how you resist?!

CGJ0

33 posts

101 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Great article this, thanks for sharing your experiences.

minimatan

13,913 posts

202 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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How do you get it to Europe? It is expensive/convenient?

Itsallicanafford

2,772 posts

160 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Good work, great to see the car being used to its full potential...your a brave man to take it in the ring though!

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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minimatan said:
How do you get it to Europe? It is expensive/convenient?
They are built in Europe.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Magic919 said:
minimatan said:
How do you get it to Europe? It is expensive/convenient?
They are built in Europe.
It's currently in Canada though, so one way or the other it has made a rather long trip at least once.

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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They make them in Germany. They have a factory collection option. They then transport it to the destination as normal.

Gary C

12,494 posts

180 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Lovely, wee bit jealous smile


Interesting to see he's kept a 997 manual version too.

aww999

2,068 posts

262 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Blackbird425 said:
Beautifully done.

Don't get the bit about not redlining the cars though - that seems a little strange in something this track focused? Not sure how you resist?!
I'm the same, I feel it adds a lot to the reliability but detracts almost nothing from the performance to change up 2-300rpm before the limiter when on track. The challenge and the excitement is in the corners anyway smile

NB: In my case it's in a £1500 MR2 rather than a £150,000 911, but the same principle applies I think!

Krikkit

26,550 posts

182 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Magic919 said:
They make them in Germany. They have a factory collection option. They then transport it to the destination as normal.
Really? Wow.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Great to see such a rare / special car being used as intended and not mothballed as an investment or whatever.

c_seven

162 posts

193 months

Monday 29th February 2016
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Funny enough I was at the ring the day you were there, the car looked and sounded great and this now explains the strange numberplate




RDMcG

19,197 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Nice to see another picsmile...

As for factory delivery for North America there is no charge but there are certain condition- no trade-in, full payment a month in advance,and no financing except through Porsche if you need to finance. You get a nice folder join advance with a voucher for one night's hotel, directions, a factory tour,free admission to the Museum, and a luck in the dining room.

In my case it was devilishly complex as it happened. The problem was that to get to the International Porsche Tage in Austria on September 3 I had to get the car delivered on September 2, a day after the factory reopened from the August break. Getting them to change their production schedule is quite a challenging exercise, but I managed.

Clutching my ID and card, I went over to the the delivery centre...
O8:30


09:00
Dropped the car off to be wrapped at Schwabenfolia, who are amaizingly good people:\


10:00: felt a bit aged when I saw this is the Museum...I have the same model and colour in my garage


Had lunch at the factory and then did a bit of touring and the car was back at the hotel by 18:00.

Set out for Zell am See in the driving rain next day:



Great people driving amazing cars really hard...959,2.7RS,993RS and others all being thrashed as they should be ,and a wonderful group of attendees from all over Europe. Went over to Dr Porsche's house. The chapel beside the house has the remains of Ferdinand Porsche, Ferry Porsche and their families...very simple inside:





One evening Porsche brought out the LM 24 original trophy for people to take selfies with..(not my thing)..



After Zell it was a long run through Innsbruck , Rothenburg,Dresden Leipzig and on to Hamburg:







Had the privilege of spending the day in the closed Mondays Museum Prototype with the must-see collection of cars, especially the sublime Typ 64:




This simple chassis is the part restored VW Beetle prototype that was the personal car of Ferdinand Porsche in 1937. They have the body almost ready:




After Hamburg is was the Ring, and the off to Berlin for some R&R and a stay at the Adlon which I like. Whereas GT3 and RS are a dime a dozen at Nürburg, the car got a lot of attention at the Wall....





and now its back in Toronto, for a markedly less adventurous time, at least for a little while...














e21Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Those wheels are gorgeous. cloud9

Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Really enjoyed this lovely story.

RDMcG

19,197 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Speaking of wheels,there is no choice of tires when the car is delivered. It's came shod with Dunlops but they also come with Cup2s. Will try the Michelins next time.

minimatan

13,913 posts

202 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Just brilliant

Wills2

22,924 posts

176 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Superb, thanks for sharing.