RE: Shed of the Week: Alfa Romeo 166

RE: Shed of the Week: Alfa Romeo 166

Friday 4th March 2016

Shed of the Week: Alfa Romeo 166

Smartly-dressed Italian exec and the concept of 'sprezzatura' on Shed's radar this week



Right, here's your reaction test for today. Ready?

Who do you think of when you see the phrase (wait for it...) 'Italian car executive'.

Who did you think of? Stephan Winkelmann or Luca di Montezemolo?

'Alfa Romeo', 'V6' and Shed money...
'Alfa Romeo', 'V6' and Shed money...
Whichever one it was - and we'd lay Dan's money on it being one of those two - the usual stereotype of the modern Italian industry exec is of a smooth-looking dude rocking a combination of rakish elegance and air of not giving a flying one, invariably at odds with the time and money spent achieving this look. Sprezzatura, they call it in Italy.

Here's another Italian executive that you might say is a metal embodiment of sprezzatura: Alfa Romeo's 166. Born in 1998, this four-door saloon was the replacement for the rather lovely Alfa 164, cheap examples of which, we fear, are long departed from this column and unlikely to return.

Centro Stile designer Walter de Silva had the demanding task of coming up with something that was at least as appealing as the 164, and hopefully more so, using the same floorpan. With the obvious exception of the front end, which looked a bit too much like a startled catfish, it's fair to say that the boy done well. It's one of the few cars that looks as good side-on as it does in the less demanding rear three-quarter pose.

The engine is the heart of any good Alfa. Under this 166's bonnet is not the 225hp 3.0-litre V6 (boosted in 2003 to 3.2-litres and 240hp), but nor is it the weedy 150hp 2.0-litre four either. What it is the sweet 2.5 six, a tasty compromise of power and fruitsome zing putting out 190hp at an emotional 6,200rpm. It's a manual too, which not only avoids the potentially expensive ECU difficulties associated with the Sportronic box, it also means you can play the part of a demented orchestra conductor with a well-wielded wand.

Talking of conductors, alternative funny man Alexei Sayle once described his 166 as having more electrical problems than North Korea, but his was an early model. The 166 generally is not deserving of your scorn. It's a perfectly practical option that needn't empty your wallet.

Sure, some 166 body panels are prone to distortion, and the paint can lose both lustre and lacquer, but from the pics it looks like our SOTW is a rolling testament to the efforts Alfa put in on corrosion resistance. We assume the car is black. Dark colours do suit the 166, contrasting nicely with the chromey bits. Whatever the hue may be, it looks rust free. You'll want to check the front suspension for clonks, creaks or bangs as these components take a bit of a pasting on the 166. It's worth keeping the springing fresh as the multi-link rear/double-wishbone front system is your guarantee of connected handling.

Most Alfa engines use oil, or as they say in Italy, olio. The V6s can guzzle a litre every thousand miles. That's not necessarily a bad thing. You could look at it as a way of having new oil, or olio, in your motor most of the time. If the level is below the slot on the stick, watch out, as this engine gets pretty grumpy if it's run low.

No leather but the cut of its cloth is sharp
No leather but the cut of its cloth is sharp
We have very little technical info to go on with this sparsely-written ad, but an interested purchaser should certainly try to find out if the cambelt has been changed at 60K, the mark recommended by specialists. Ideally the water pump will have been changed at the same time as the original factory items used fragile plastic impellers. When these crack the engine will overheat, with predictably costly results.

Manual gearboxes and clutches wear well, but the air flow meter is known for failing. That will manifest itself as poor top-end performance and a generally choked feel when you're chasing some revs.

Despite its own specific flaws and any other issues you may have with its parent's reputation, the 166 confounded the market by having a decently long innings, running from 1998 to 2007 in the face of stiff competition from the established 5 Series and E-Class.

Since our last 166 Shed back at the end of 2012, the number registered in the UK has dropped by more than half, from around 1,300 to something below 600. Like all good designs, it still looks fresh and distinctive today. Getting your paws on a solid one now could be a smart move. On one level it's a pity this one doesn't have leather, but looked at another way that's only going to make it rarer. As any Italian exec will tell you, it's all about perception.

Here's the (not exactly fulsome) ad.

Mot'd 19th April 2016, good clean example, driving well, a future classic !!

 

 

 

 

   


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AC43

Original Poster:

11,474 posts

208 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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That is gorgeous. SOTY.

TurboHatchback

4,159 posts

153 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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That is good shed right there, looks like it should cost much more than it does.

rallycross

12,787 posts

237 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Very nice I'd happily buy that to run around in.

Shame the seller has forgotten to say where he is, in fact, he has forgotten to say anything at all!

Maybe this is a car that is just going to magically sell itself!


VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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No, it doesn't even have leather ffs.

I think it is time for SOTW to have a mix up, perhaps increase the budget to £1500 or something...... The last few choices have been incredibly uninspiring.

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Nice front end!

Liquid Tuna

1,400 posts

156 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Never liked these, even after driving one. The looks alone are enough to put me off. Dreadful SOTW.

The Don of Croy

5,993 posts

159 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Is it the shortest ad ever? How old is this car (obviously pre 2008)?

Quite tempting a for characterful short term punt, or just a grenade with the pin about to be removed?

TheTyreAbuser

170 posts

98 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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I would absolutely love a 166, although it would be a 3.0 Super at least really. Still, wouldn't say no...

SimonTheSailor

12,576 posts

228 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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rallycross said:
Shame the seller has forgotten to say where he is.
Antrim.

sinbaddio

2,369 posts

176 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Good mix of opinion. I've had two, both ex demo cars. First was a 2.0TS which was a bit under powered, then a 3.0 V6. Loved them both. Servicing costs were gargantuan compared to German equivalents, but the rarity value, the fabulous interior and the 'different' looks made them both worthwhile. Coupled with the sense of occasion every time I drove them. Then there's the depreciation.....

jl34

524 posts

237 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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i had 166 super 3.0 v6. Absolutley loved it for wonderful wafting around . The Momo leather seats were just perfect.




PtheP

66 posts

140 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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I still miss my 3.0 166 two years after selling it (I had it around 10 years). Great engine which unusually never used any olio - all that chrome too! - marvellous momo leather interior, Novitech body kit and stainless exhaust, and most of the electrics worked nearly all of the time (central locking was a shade hit and miss). It also went from Rosso Alfa to racing pink the moment the guarantee on the paint treatment ran out. Sold it to a mate who sadly came 2nd in an argument with the Windsor & Eton mobile library! Happy with my Diesel GT, but nothing beats the engine note of the V6.

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
No, it doesn't even have leather ffs.

I think it is time for SOTW to have a mix up, perhaps increase the budget to £1500 or something...... The last few choices have been incredibly uninspiring.
I dont get the complete fascination with Leather seats, completely ignoring the Alfa and V6 bits.

Budget airlines have leather seats, it isnt the epitome of class these days.

AC43

Original Poster:

11,474 posts

208 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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PtheP said:
most of the electrics worked nearly all of the time
LOL

Behemoth

2,105 posts

131 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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I sold my 3l sportronic a few weeks ago, after 8 years of glorious ownership. I had a 3l manual from new, too. They are fantastic grand tourers & my last one flew past 160k with no problems, just regular maintenance. I think that Busso V6 had another 100k in her easily.

HughG

3,547 posts

241 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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PtheP said:
I still miss my 3.0 166 two years after selling it (I had it around 10 years). Great engine which unusually never used any olio - all that chrome too! - marvellous momo leather interior, Novitech body kit and stainless exhaust, and most of the electrics worked nearly all of the time (central locking was a shade hit and miss). It also went from Rosso Alfa to racing pink the moment the guarantee on the paint treatment ran out. Sold it to a mate who sadly came 2nd in an argument with the Windsor & Eton mobile library! Happy with my Diesel GT, but nothing beats the engine note of the V6.
Is that olive oil for italian engines?!

Great shed.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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These things have a face not even a mother could love, what an awful front end.

Alright motor with that V6, however.

Theophany

1,069 posts

130 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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The Don of Croy said:
Is it the shortest ad ever? How old is this car (obviously pre 2008)?
I think this person wins 'shortest ad' award.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-SALE-Jaguar-E-Type-4...

Krikkit

26,515 posts

181 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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J4CKO said:
VolvoT5 said:
No, it doesn't even have leather ffs.

I think it is time for SOTW to have a mix up, perhaps increase the budget to £1500 or something...... The last few choices have been incredibly uninspiring.
I dont get the complete fascination with Leather seats, completely ignoring the Alfa and V6 bits.

Budget airlines have leather seats, it isnt the epitome of class these days.
In the case of the Alfa the leather Momo seats are absolutely magnificent things, and worth paying extra for. The cloth ones could be just as good mind!

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

227 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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The Don of Croy said:
Is it the shortest ad ever? How old is this car (obviously pre 2008)?
DVLA website says Dec 2000. Nice car, but NI location limits the market. Bargain for anyone who lives in that neck of the woods.