RE: SEAT Leon Cupra V6: PH Blog

RE: SEAT Leon Cupra V6: PH Blog

Monday 7th March 2016

SEAT Leon Cupra V6: PH Blog

Never heard about the four-wheel drive, V6 Leon Cupra? Read on...



It's a misprint. It has to be a misprint. How could there be chance to drive a Leon Cupra V6 when there's never been one? In the UK all Cupras and Cupra Rs were four-cylinder, definitely. They were very popular, and early ones make good Sheds now. But a V6? No. Even if it was LHD-only, someone must have heard about it...


We were wrong; there was a Leon Cupra V6. Built in small numbers and only in LHD between 2000 and 2002, it was the first SEAT to be made with more than 200hp. It was also built by SEAT rather than SEAT Sport, explaining its more subdued appearance. The Cupra bumpers and wheels are fairly subtle, for example, with just a badge on its pretty little rump and a few adornments inside marking it out. Much like the Golf V6 4Motion with which this car shares so much, the Leon is a very discreet fast hatch.

The biggest surprise inside is the light. Sounds daft, but we've become so used to cars with huge pillars and tiny glasshouses that to sit in a regular hatch from 15 years ago is a revelation. You can see! Moreover the steering wheel is a sensible size, as is the gearstick. The Leon shows very well how needlessly OTT so many interior features are now.

Start it using a key (!) and the 2.8-litre VR6 settles to a muted idle after the merest hint of a growl. The drive is taking place on the Terramar circuit so, as well as being not that detailed, it won't be for very long either. And it's been recently restored by SEAT. Off we go then...


Having driven the new Cupra 290 just a few minutes beforehand, immediately you can sense the drag of the four-wheel drive in the older car. There's more inertia in the powertrain, and the clear impression of car hauling around a fair bit of mass. Indeed the spec sheet reveals a 1,483kg kerbweight, the V6 not a light hot hatch by any stretch.

Now the Golf V6 4Motion never enjoyed the best reputation as the most enjoyable hot hatch, and the SEAT certainly did nothing to overturn that on this brief drive. What it did do however was act as a reminder of how nice large capacity naturally aspirated engines really are. It revs freely, sounds great and responds to the throttle nicely, completely at odds with the overly sharp Cupra setting on the new car. Yes, it's not that fast and, yes, it probably uses loads of fuel, but it goes to prove that turbo engines still cannot match the pleasure of using an atmospheric one.

Even this recently restored example felt a little slack in its damping and clearly wouldn't keep up with a new Cupra on any road, but as a curio the V6 Cupra was really rather pleasant. It seems unlikely that engines other than four-cylinder turbos will be seen in hot hatches from now on, so a bit of diversity is certainly welcomed round these parts. Though if we're deciding between V6 hot hatches of the early 2000s, mine will have an Alfa badge on it...

 

 

 

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j_s14a

Original Poster:

863 posts

179 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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The closely related Corrado VR6 is a much better car, even without the AWD. It handles better, is faster, more economical, has a much nicer driving position, and genuinely feels special. It is even very practical, seating four adults when necessary, and the rear seats fold down to give a fairly gargantuan boot for a hatch.


MDMA .

8,901 posts

102 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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have an old VW Driver magazine somewhere with one in when they first came out. think the same issue had a supercharged Bora 4 motion in it too. made for the swiss market ?

GTEYE

2,096 posts

211 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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j_s14a said:
The closely related Corrado VR6 is a much better car, even without the AWD. It handles better, is faster, more economical, has a much nicer driving position, and genuinely feels special. It is even very practical, seating four adults when necessary, and the rear seats fold down to give a fairly gargantuan boot for a hatch.
Other than using a distant relative of the same engine, the Corrado was in no way closely related to the Leon.

The Corrado's chassis was derived from that of the Mk2 Golf while this Leon was spun off the completely different Mk4 Golf.



Antj

1,047 posts

201 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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come on researchers, it's called a Cupra 4 and there was a diesel version too

Edited by Antj on Monday 7th March 16:45

AJB88

12,448 posts

172 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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I think 1 got imported to the UK.

edeath

333 posts

192 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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"There are no Cupra bumpers or fancy wheels...."

Those ARE the facelift Cupra bumpers and wheels in the pictures.....

pauly

434 posts

283 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Great little car. I bought one of the first ones. Picked it up in Breda in Holland and drove it around Germany for the next 3 years only ever seeing 3 others. It was bright yellow of course. Made a great sound and went very well although it did feel heavy at times. Sold it and got a Cooper S and even though the handling of the mini was in another league it did feel hectic compared to the smooth Seat. After reading this article it made me wonder where it is now.

Andy665

3,627 posts

229 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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The Swiss market got an officially sanctioned supercharged version of this, I very nearly bought one

AJB88

12,448 posts

172 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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edeath said:
"There are no Cupra bumpers or fancy wheels...."

Those ARE the facelift Cupra bumpers and wheels in the pictures.....
correct!

Ocellia

186 posts

150 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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"Biggest surprise is the light.....'etc..
Totally agree! I can't get used to cars with Pill-box size windows, with only drivers eyes showing1 (A Pill Box was an armoured concrete defence structure with gun slits, for you youngsters!)
Memories of sitting ON -not IN - Citroen DS seats with clear view all around, or even the more recent late 90s Lexus LS400s or Saabs.

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

206 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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AJB88 said:
edeath said:
"There are no Cupra bumpers or fancy wheels...."

Those ARE the facelift Cupra bumpers and wheels in the pictures.....
correct!
Apologies boxedin SEAT knowledge sorely lacking. Will make some amends now...


Matt

gmoonk

1 posts

98 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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I had a new one in the Netherlands, was one of my first cars at the time, a silver one. I was wondering why I never saw one in the UK once I moved there, now I know. It was a great little car. Very solid handling due to the four wheel drive. Nice rumble from the engine, and a clean, fuss free look. Always continued to have a soft spot for it

Have to admit I have been looking around for one on and off in the last few years, clearly nearly impossible in the UK now

James Junior

827 posts

158 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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On a similar note, I had a MK4 Golf 2.3 V5 of this vintage and loved it.

The handling was also very pudding-like with loads of roll, pitching and yawing.

However the engine was a peach, especialy after a remap, with a silky smooth power delivery and it was just a lovely place to be. The interiors of the MK4 Golfs were really quite solid and luxurious compared to their peers of the time and well-equipped.

I can only imagine this Leon is a similar proposition. Too wallowy to be a true B road weapon, but a lovely thing to drive daily and to cruise in, so long as you are not price sensitive when it comes to running costs.

Good find PH!

dinkel

26,954 posts

259 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Cupra V8 anyone?

There must be one with a mid-engine 4.2 AUDI in . . .

Chris Eyre

135 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th March 2016
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Rare in name but everyone's seen one, just without realising it.

The 4WD bodyshells were used for the Seat Supercopa race cars in various countries.

Re-packaged as FWD with 1.8 turbo engines and diff-less independent rear suspension, over 100 were built by Seat SEAT Sport. Drivers like Gordon Shedden and Rob Huff made career steps in these things and it was all televised smile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAT_Cupra_Champions...

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