RE: Shed of the Week: SEAT Arosa Sport

RE: Shed of the Week: SEAT Arosa Sport

Friday 18th March 2016

Shed of the Week: SEAT Arosa Sport

Rare, quick (enough) and with a centre-exit exhaust - what more do you need?



This week, the Shed selection panel was faced with an agonising decision: Jag XJ6 3.2 Sport or SEAT Arosa Sport. The choice between a good big 'un and a good little 'un is always difficult. Happily, as long as you don't end up with a bad big 'un like Shed did on that fateful day in the Wigan Registry Office, you should be onto a winner either way.

Bring back more centre-exit exhausts
Bring back more centre-exit exhausts
On this occasion the judges gave the nod to the good little 'un. Why? Well, XJ6 Sheds will be on the shelves for a while yet, but we might never get another chance to feature this hidden micro-gem from SEAT.

Those PHers who find themselves reading ladies' magazines in the smallest room may have seen the feature in which some stupidly priced haute couture dress is compared with one that looks the same but that can be snaffled from MandM or wherever for a fraction of the price. This Arosa is the MandM version of VW's performance Lupo.

It's not an exact analogy. The true red carpet, designer performance Lupo is of course the GTI 1.6, but finding a decent one of them for under £3,000 is now just as difficult as finding a normal human being at a Trump election rally.

For branding reasons, and to keep the Spaniards in their place, SEAT wasn't allowed to build a direct rival to the Lupo GTI. The Arosa Sport was SEAT's equivalent of the next one down in the Lupo range, the Lupo 1.4 Sport - and nowadays it's a rare beast. Fewer than 40 remain on UK roads. The Lupo Sport is, relatively speaking, as common as Mrs Shed's mum, with around 1,400 still scuttling about the place.

Should be sprightly with 100hp and less than 1,000kg
Should be sprightly with 100hp and less than 1,000kg
Ah but, you say, there's a more obvious reason for that: more Lupos were sold. Quite right. When the Arosa was launched in 1997, SEAT had nothing like the brand appeal of VW. Nobody wanted a shortened Ibiza when they knew that a shortened Polo with more badge cred and better resaleability was coming along a year later.

Over the past decade, VW's old strong arm approach of putting a tight leash on the junior partner's output has been replaced by a much more subtle branding policy. With all the launch differentiators long eroded away, we can now clearly see that these two superminis were one and the same. Yes, the SEAT was slightly longer than the VeeDub, not just in the body but in the wheelbase, but otherwise it had the same springy 16-valve 100hp motor and the same rollerskate agility that came from lightish weight (under 1,000kg, but not by as much as you might think). Best of all it had the bee-sting central exhaust that might make less well informed fellow road users think you were running a GTI.

These are fun little cars. The driving position and your access to it is good, visibility is great, the suspension is nicely firm, the performance is sprightly and the space in the back (titchy boot apart) is surprisingly acceptable.

And it even comes pre-scratched!
And it even comes pre-scratched!
Weak points? Well, at the risk of perpetuating a stereotype, SEATs weren't the best built cars around back then. Doors can drop on their hinges. Having said that the SOTW's look OK from this distance. You might get some warnings on the dash, but at least some will be down to bogus sensors. Second gear synchro has been known to fail on the Sports, and some engines were replaced under warranty due to a problem with piston coatings. The dreaded plastic cambelt tensioner was used in this 1.4 16-valver. The goodish news is that the belt tends to stay put when the tensioner breaks. As it will.

The vendor comments on the sticky clutch. That could be the cable, but it's just as likely to be the pedal box. Earlier in the Lupo's lifetime many boxes were replaced FOC by VW dealers. Maybe this one slipped through the net and is now belatedly shouting for attention.

Despite the Arosa's diminutive dimensions, at least one of this car's owners has been under the impression that it will defy the laws of matter and anti-matter and squeeze through spaces that are smaller than itself. Luckily, bodywork blemishes never dulled the driving dynamics of any car. Nail an induction kit onto it and enjoy.

Here's the ad.

Hi,

Here for sale is my 2001 1.4 SEAT Arosa Sport.

It's been great economical run around that I will be sad to see go. Being the 100BHP Sport model it is very nippy around town and benefits from Alloy Wheels, Sports seats and a central exhaust system as standard.

Additional Details:
96k Miles
HPI Clear with print out
MOT until December 2016
Pioneer Head unit with CD, USB and AUX connectivity
Electric Windows
Central Locking
Power Steering

The interior is in very good condition as shown, sport seats are very supportive. 4 good tyres and it had recent wheel bearing replacement for the MOT.

The car does have a few scratches/ scuffs as expected for its age (pictured), but nothing that couldn't be sorted with a little TLC. The clutch pedal is slightly heavier than most but operates and works as it should, no judders/ slips. Not much in the way of paperwork.

The car is located in Walsall West Midlands, please feel free to contact me with any questions or to arrange a viewing.

Genuine reason for sale, thanks for looking.

Bargain at £895 OVNO.

 

 

 

 


Author
Discussion

Barchettaman

Original Poster:

6,325 posts

133 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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That has merit!

Similar power-to-weight to the Panda 100hp, but at a fraction of the cost?

I imagine it would be a fun thing to scuttle around in.

WigWonder79

24 posts

98 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Definitely worth a punt.

They are so many VAG independents out there that any issues could be dealt with cheaply.

Good shed!

SirSquidalot

4,042 posts

166 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Think the Ibiza i had a while back had this engine, decent little lump!

Vaud

50,644 posts

156 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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The classic seat arouser as my smutty friend calls them.

Scamper

732 posts

223 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I had the Arosa 1.4 TDi Sport...great economy and quite quick (for a small car)..until the turbo let go, ended up getting my daughter a 1.0 Arosa as her first car. All VW parts under the bonnet so reliable and cheap as chips to run!!

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

112 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Read the ad carefully, sounds like it was written by an estate agent

despite that I really really like the idea of one of these as a cheapo runabout

mikeyr

3,118 posts

194 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Nice to have something different as SOTW - not for me but looks like a fun little car.

Mighty Flex

901 posts

172 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Mine was great fun as a first car. Took me 25miles to and from work for a year at almost 45MPG (not eco driving by any means). Lively enough engine - used a bit of oil but fine.


gdelargy

73 posts

196 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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A few years back when I had a daily city-centre commute I had an Arosa TDi for its economy and easy parking. 60mpg average (with a best of 76), and £30 VED back when that was still uncommon. It was also just as roomy in the front as cars from two classes further up. However, routine servicing was horrendous -- way more expensive than the Mondeo I replaced it with -- and it was one of the most unreliable cars I've had. Six months off the road with serious but intermittent fuelling problems, and then the gearbox started to go at about 65k miles which I've come to learn was a VAG group specialty. I've stayed away from their cars since.

Funnily enough though, build quality was fine. I keep reading about how the VW Up and its siblings have "redefined the city car class" or similar tosh. But I spent last summer doing 2k miles around Europe in a Skoda Citigo, and it felt not one step further forward in build quality and ambience (or gearbox reliability) than the old Arosa.

Itsallicanafford

2,772 posts

160 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I love low powered light cars...i run a 106 with 100Bhp and less than 1000Kg (well, less than 850Kg), plenty enough power to have some fun...

RacerMike

4,214 posts

212 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I had a Gen2 one of these as my second car, and it still lives with my parents. I've vowed to buy it back off them when they want a different second car, but my Dad loves it too much! It's at about 40k miles now, and still going strong. It could do with a decent refresh, but the engine still pulls strongly and it's largely fairly together. There's an annoying rattle from the passenger side dash, and the drivers door hinges squeak like buggery, but it's actually reasonably well built.

Biggest issue with them was the fact they didn't seem to have any nod towards exciting driving dynamics at all! It's a 900kg car with 105bhp (and the engine is actually a bit of a peach) but the steering ratio is borrowed from a transit and all it ever wants to do is understeer. I suspect a few choice bits from the Lupo GTI would liven it up. You can get brand new suspension from Eurocar Parts for about £500!

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

215 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I owned a 2001 Polo GTI from the same era. My example had very good history, 97k miles. It was however 13 years old

Whilst it was fun, I've never owned a car that felt so much like it was on its last legs before the 100k barrier. Awful electrics, body rust, gearbox was rebuilt by the previous owner at a cost of nearly £1000. Plus the creaks and rattles!

I wouldn't buy any VW/Seat from this era (late 90's to early 2000's). Later models (03 onwards) were a HUGE improvement. Ran later model Ibiza's up to and over 100k no problems.

Quhet

2,428 posts

147 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I shared a basic 1.0 Arosa with my mum as my first car. Something brilliant like 17 seconds from 0-60 but it was a great car. I used to love thrashing the tits of it everwhere I went and it handled well too.

T198XVT is still out there going stong!

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I second the opinion about cars that might be fun because of their low weight.

That centre-exit exhaust needs a centre-entrance intake! Source a suitable swoop-y shape from the junk yard. Spray it red. Bolt to the bonnet. Et voila. wink




J4CKO

41,675 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Glad Shed didnt go for the Jag, much as I love whiffy old barges Shed is about variety and this is quite a rare model, ,my wifes friend had a 1.4 auto, thought it would be dire but actually quite enjoyed driving it and that only has 60 bhp, can imagine this has just enough power to be fun.

The market needs more cheap and cheerful 100 ish bhp cars, its a travesty the Aygo never got the treatment and where is the Up GT VW kept teasing us with ? that would sell like mad but they are producing a 400 bhp Golf ?

RacerMike

4,214 posts

212 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Quhet said:
I shared a basic 1.0 Arosa with my mum as my first car. Something brilliant like 17 seconds from 0-60 but it was a great car. I used to love thrashing the tits of it everwhere I went and it handled well too.

T198XVT is still out there going stong!
Had one of those too. Properly hilarious how slow it was! Brakes were utterly terrible.....you could only just lock the wheels if you put all your weight on the pedal!

smithyithy

7,260 posts

119 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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I'd love a Lupo GTi as a little runaround, such cool little cars.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

221 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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Bin that awful engine and fit the 2.0 TFSI from the Edition 30 (remapped, of course), and leave the rest of the car as it is. That'd surprise a few diesel reps on the motorway smile

RacerMike

4,214 posts

212 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
Bin that awful engine and fit the 2.0 TFSI from the Edition 30 (remapped, of course), and leave the rest of the car as it is. That'd surprise a few diesel reps on the motorway smile
Precisely the opposite of what you should do! The engine's the best bit of it. Really revvy and quite powerful. The chassis, as I said above, was fairy boring. Sort that out and leave the engine, and it'd be a great alternative to a 106 GTI...

Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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> 100hp/ton + short wheelbase should be a cracking recipe for banging around twisties and roundabouts, i approve!

And entirely agreed on the center exhaust, we need more of those, to hell with towbars!