RE: Shed Of The Week: Lexus LS430

RE: Shed Of The Week: Lexus LS430

Friday 25th March 2016

Shed Of The Week: Lexus LS430

This big Lexus is "in need of some TLC" - are you feeling brave enough?



What, in your opinion, does the phrase 'some TLC required' mean?

The answer to that very much depends on who it's coming from. We all have different standards. Shed has spent many expensive hours in dirty trains looking at cars described as 'requiring some TLC', only to find on his arrival that what they actually required was an urgent rendezvous with the crusher.

Is this retirement paradise?
Is this retirement paradise?
In fairness though, he has also discovered some real gems apologetically advertised by the owners as needing 'some TLC', when in fact all they needed was a new twopenny sensor or a pipe-clearing blat down the bypass.

What do we reckon is the story behind this week's Shed, an imposing Lexus LS430 in a fetching bishop's colourway of purple and gold?

First though, given that this is its debut appearance as SOTW, what is an LS430? Well, it was physically bigger than the ground-breaking 400. Some say that the ride from the 430's retuned air suspension and optional 18-inch wheels was a bit more physical too. It never had the S-Class's imperious disregard for oikish potholes. The factory's attempt to add some sportiness in lieu of ultimate pliancy was a slightly odd decision given the car's cigarillo-and-six-iron market.

Still, what the LS did have was refinement. Its bigger displacement motor generated the same 290hp as the previous LS400, with a small 20lb ft torque top-up to 320lb ft, and its five-speed tranny gained an extra cog. That made it good for a claimed 0-60 of 5.9 seconds, all of them in eerie silence and 0.4sec quicker than the old car.

Mmm!
Mmm!
Besides silky smoothness the LS430 had several thousand tons of kit, up to and including laser-guided adaptive cruise control. This car doesn't seem to have the big wheels and low profile rubber so the chances are that only an owner of the plush old LS400 might detect the relative brittleness of the 430's ride. Handling falls squarely into the category of safe understeer.

The vendor's reason for selling this first-year 430 (replacement by a later model), plus pics on a classic slice of pensioner coastline and his use of a capital 'E' in 'Email' all suggest someone in the autumn of his years. An assumption given more credibility by his failure to reply to Shed's 'Email' inquiry as to the exact nature of the TLC required. As we all know, old codgers only look at their Emails once a month.

Of course, this good ole boy persona could be nothing more than an elaborate sting designed to lure potential buyers to the car's actual location on a council sink estate oop North. Not that that should put you off. Many perfectly nice people live on council sink estates oop North. Just watch Gogglebox.

While the grovelling machine is on, apologies to any female readers offended by the assumption of male ownership. Surely though there are even fewer ladies driving LS Lexi in the UK than there are behind the wheels of Jag XJs? When did you last see one? A lady LS owner, that is, not a lady.

Acres of space back here too
Acres of space back here too
The odometer tells us that this car has been nearly all the way to the moon, but few cars wear big mileage as easily as a top o' the range Lex. If, as seems likely, the owner is a serial Lexist, it's an odds-on bet that he'll have kept the servicing up, because that's what Lexus owners do.

So, what might the problems be with this particular car? The pics would seem to indicate some bonnet lacquer peeling, but that could be a trick of the bleak coastal light. The Shedly solution is to electronically lower your seat so you can't see the bonnet.

The biggest generic problem with the LS, as Mr Garlick late of this parish will grimly attest, is the air suspension. It can lock itself into a bone-shatteringly hard high position or drop itself to the deck in finest lead sled stylee, all on its own. Ride height control sensors get wonked out by water ingress. Lexus GB extended the warranty on these parts to five years, but you're on your own now. The fix is simple enough, if not cheap if you're used to running less opulent cars.

But given that this car is only a grand, isn't it worth a shot? Be advised that the next cheapest 430 we could find anywhere on the British chunk of the internet was nearly two and half times the price of this one.

Buying any used car is a gamble, but all things being equal and with nothing too disastrous lurking behind all that leather and wood, this is less of a punt than it may appear. Even if the suspension is terminally knackered, you've still got one of the best and most bulletproof V8 engines ever made to form the basis of your mad one-off special.

Here's the ad.

LS430 with all the usual refinements in need of some TLC, hence the price. I have owned this car for over 10 years and it is in use everyday. The sale is due to the fact that I have just purchased a later model.
There is 5 Months left on the MOT
Please phone / Email for further information.




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E46Rob

Original Poster:

24 posts

104 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Same car up on eBay from a different seller for 1500!! https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/301908369505

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Wonderful cars. The waftiest barges ever. I wonder what the "TLC" required is?

Otherwise a great find for a grand.

J4CKO

41,520 posts

200 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Love these, but they are ugly, still for a grand...

The engine is worth more than that, superb piece of engineering, has anyone ever blown a standard one up, do they ever wear out ?

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Nice car, but that generation LS has looks and an ungainliness that only a mother could love.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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I wont argue with that much barge for the money, but the car does nothing for me, doesnt have the same appeal as a big bargey merc of BMW

Quhet

2,418 posts

146 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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I wonder how many people under 60 drive these?
Cracking value, but I'm 33 years too young for this one!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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I do believe you're SOTWing a car that's already been hoovered up by a trader to punt on for a profit. frown

Shame it's gone really, looks like it was quite the steal.


M4cruiser

3,624 posts

150 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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I've always loved these but never had the courage ...
Saw one (LS400) in Reading a few years ago for £750. I just knew it would take several thousand to keep it running for a year ..

Coventrykid

2 posts

97 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Toyota were gunning for the big boys back in 1990 and in doing so turned turned the luxury car market upside down, the likes of Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes Benz, couldn't hold a candle to the refinement of the LS400, it was a truly brilliant car, unfortunatly the LS 430 had a hard act to follow and in that time its competitors caught up and surpassed it.

Edited by Coventrykid on Friday 25th March 11:29

kellyt

158 posts

119 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Brilliant, but ugly.

Main concern would be seaside + Japanese 'rustproofing' = worry. Looks tidy, but I've had enough rusty Japanese cars to be very wary indeed.

kpb

305 posts

175 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Wow, looking at the pics of this on eBay (Dudley-on-Sea?) am I the only person to notice the state of the seat belt? Did the old guy work in a coal mine?

Easily sorted though.

Steve_F

860 posts

194 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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M4cruiser said:
I've always loved these but never had the courage ...
Saw one (LS400) in Reading a few years ago for £750. I just knew it would take several thousand to keep it running for a year ..
My LS400 cost me £800, changed the oil for the price of oil and a filter and sold it on for £800 6 months later.

ottothedog

8 posts

139 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Great car ....BUT any you even thinking of purchasing if it is in DUDLEY be warned ........If its A seller called LEXUSCHAP.....He is A weapons grade Wa**ker
do your homework
Just a heads up thats all

ambuletz

10,733 posts

181 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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I never liked the looks of this, the very first ones looked the best.

405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Earlier ones are undeniably prettier but most are either carefully loved or shagged-out in a field now...

A mate did a suspension repair on one of these last week - not THAT pricey in the scale of things (tho more than the asking price here), but he did suggest to the owner than a complete suspension refresh was due and that was a couple-of-times that sum - we're not in shedding territory there then (and you can't drive it as slammed as this one was!!)

He only suggested it because, otherwise, the car was pretty-much perfect.

I'd remind folks that Matt Farah owns an LS400 which is approaching 1 million miles and whilst not perfect, it still runs/works/drives - having been to the moon and back almost TWICE!!

p.s. Farah talks about the engine in his being 'certified for aviation use' - no idea why anyone would want a 4.0L V8 in a plane but apparently they do?

DM9297

72 posts

98 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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ottothedog said:
Great car ....BUT any you even thinking of purchasing if it is in DUDLEY be warned ........If its A seller called LEXUSCHAP.....He is A weapons grade Wa**ker
do your homework
Just a heads up thats all
Extremely curious to know the background to this...

Steve12NG

258 posts

152 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Haha!

Hilarious write up.

Made all the more funny for me as a mate had one of these until very recently and the apparent fact you lot in Blighty can buy one for a bag of sand would be absolutely gutting for him.

ottothedog

8 posts

139 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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DM9297 said:
ottothedog said:
Great car ....BUT any you even thinking of purchasing if it is in DUDLEY be warned ........If its A seller called LEXUSCHAP.....He is A weapons grade Wa**ker
do your homework
Just a heads up thats all
Extremely curious to know the background to this...
You have access to the net....... do your research... Its their for all to read

andyalan10

404 posts

137 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Only selling because I've already bought another very similar car. Surely that's got be a lot more worrying than selling due to change of circumstance? Speaking from recent experience...

Equus

16,873 posts

101 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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405dogvan said:
Farah talks about the engine in his being 'certified for aviation use' - no idea why anyone would want a 4.0L V8 in a plane but apparently they do?
Versions of the original VW Beetle engine are 'certified for aviation use', in case you might think it has something to do with engineering quality.

As are versions of the Mazda rotary, in case you think it might have something to do with reliability.

Edited by Equus on Friday 25th March 16:11