RE: Shed of the Week: Mazda MX-6

RE: Shed of the Week: Mazda MX-6

Friday 1st April 2016

Shed of the Week: Mazda MX-6

If the MX-5 is the Answer to Everything then an MX-6 must be the Answer to Something, right?



Anyone ever been to Flat Rock, Michigan? PHers who have powerfully inscribed their X onto a Mustang order form might recognise this as the address of Ford's Assembly Plant.

Adenoidally, history nerds will add that Flat Rock was also responsible for turning out the Ford Probe back in the 90s. Built on the Mazda GE platform, the blobby Probe was a good deal less handsome than the MX-6 that Mazda managed to conjure up on their drawing boards in 1991.

What happens when you add one to MX-5?
What happens when you add one to MX-5?
It didn't matter. The contemporary motoring press tore both of them new ones for their flabbiness and languid performance.

Luckily, motoring perceptions and expectations change over time. Despite squillions spent on R&D over the last 20 years or so, the differences on the road between then and now aren't as massive as you might expect. That's partly because, like for like, cars are a lot bigger now than they were in the 90s. Heavier, too. That new Mustang weighs in at around 1,650kg for the weediest 2.3-litre four-pot version. In 1991, the 2.5 V6-powered MX-6 was perceived as positively lardmungous at 1,250kg.

Naturally, engines have moved on considerably to make up for the weight penalty. Even that milk toast 2.3 'Stang claims 317hp. But the Mazda needed only half that amount of horsepower to reach its top speed of 138mph, just 7mph down on the 2016 Ford. Eeeh, them were the days, sort of.

Old man image means it's avoided yoof tinkering
Old man image means it's avoided yoof tinkering
Admittedly, the Mazda's 0-60 time is about three seconds longer than the Ford's, which in this context (if not so much in reality) is an age, but the Shedman will correctly argue that an eight-second squirt of creamy twin-cam 24-valve V6 trumps five seconds of Identikit turbo four drone any day.

It's a decent engine, this, with a good rep for reliability. Distributors can fail, giving you the cranking but not the starting that you'd ideally like. Valve cover gaskets leak, spark plugs short, and lumpy running probably means a split in the pipe between the MAF sensor and the throttle body.

Generally speaking though, you have little to fear. The MX-6's unstressed state of tune bodes well for high miles, as our Shed is already demonstrating. It's a manual too, which allows you to hang on to the gears in search of that magical top end rush. Like the golden Euromillions envelope, this is something that will never arrive, but dreaming is free.

Front-wheel drive means safe rather than spectacular handling, but it also means that the drift boys never targeted MX-6s for enskidment. The 6's stair lift image has also saved it from the horrors of Halfordisation.

Piped leather? Swish!
Piped leather? Swish!
This example from the last year of production certainly looks honest enough with its sales-boosting run-out accoutrements like the cushy piped leather cabin and smart alloys. Dark blue is a better colour for these than the fading red. Rust is neither mentioned nor immediately obvious on the pics, but check the carpets for dampness as the air-con can leak into the passenger footwell. Windows and sunroofs can suffer from lazy electricity.

The MX-6 is a cruiser rather than a bruiser, but it's a comfy old shoe and you can squeeze four golf bags into the back if you're into that type of thing.

Remember too that there's a 12-month waiting list for a Mustang. The wait for this chap is as long as it takes you to get to Bedfordshire. And it's thirty times cheaper.

Here's the ad.

Dark Blue Mazda MX-6 2.5 V6. Drives well, clean in and out. Common wear and tear for age, come and see for yourself! MOT untill december. Surprisingly quick! No extra mods or anything. Perfect car for someone looking to project, or tune and upgrade!


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Nuppy

Original Poster:

95 posts

163 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I like this more than I should...biggrin

kellyt

158 posts

120 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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2.3 Mustang claims 317 hp? Edit?

It's just not interesting enough, sorry. It's okay, but full, dull, dull. Although I'd agree way better than the very strange 'Probe'.

Old Mazdas? Rusty, rusty, rusty. Even if the outside looks fine, I'd be extremely careful.

probably chalk

671 posts

193 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I've always liked the look of these and about 12 years ago I nearly bought one when I needed a car in a hurry. But it was parked at the back of the dealer's yard and he couldn't be bothered to move all the other cars out of the way to give me a test drive. So I went elsewhere and bought a minty Calibra instead. Which, incidentally, I still see round my way and it's still minty.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I like it!

My dad had a 97 626 for a long while, and while it wasnt exciting or anything, i took a liking to mazdas, and who can say no to a sleek 90s coupe with a V6 under the bonnet?

Next week a 1.8 V6 MX3?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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MX-6 was a brilliant V6 coupe, although a bit frumpy in the styling department.

Ford produced a version as the Probe which was in every way worse to drive, although prettier. Go figure.

SimonTheSailor

12,615 posts

229 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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kellyt said:
Old Mazdas? Rusty, rusty, rusty. Even if the outside looks fine, I'd be extremely careful.
Yep.


Advisory notice item(s)
Nearside Front constant velocity joint gaiter deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt (2.5.C.1a)
fuel tank straps rusty
inner sills corroding
suspension components corroding
fuel breather pipe rusty

Brigand

2,544 posts

170 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I had a red one of these for several months until I dropped a washer inside the engine whilst changing a leaking rocker cover gasket. (Not that I realised this until I put everything back together and started the engine mind) I loved it, and would have another one. Although it's power was never going to give it much in the way of performance it was comfortable inside and drove fairly well. Plenty of room in the cabin and the boot but the interior was basic, in the typical Japanese 90's way. Mine was fairly rotten in the bodywork though, but I don't know if this was down to being poorly looked after or the car being a rot box in general. The 'import' versions had more power than the Euro versions, something like 20-30Bhp more IIRC.

Rarely see them these days sadly, but I would certainly have another one if only for the fact they are simple but rare cars.

MadDog1962

891 posts

163 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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SimonTheSailor said:
kellyt said:
Old Mazdas? Rusty, rusty, rusty. Even if the outside looks fine, I'd be extremely careful.
Yep.


Advisory notice item(s)
Nearside Front constant velocity joint gaiter deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt (2.5.C.1a)
fuel tank straps rusty
inner sills corroding
suspension components corroding
fuel breather pipe rusty
It should last another 8 or 9 months minimal maintenance, which kind of makes the shed-onomics work out I reckon.

Back in their day (makes me feel old) these were considered pretty cool cars. 0 - 60 mph in less than 9 seconds won't feel slow either.

Quite a good find. 7 out of 10 Mr Shed. Not a classic, but definitely a bit of style that should be reliable transport for 8 months.

I wonder what the insurance is going to be like?



X5TUU

11,944 posts

188 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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just looks a little odd to me ... not a fan of the styling, not surprised they didnt really catch on in fairness

muppet42

331 posts

206 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I've heard these Mazda v6 engines at full chat and they do sound rather nice, especially in a tunnel smile

However, the car itself (at least in UK tune) does absolutely nothing for me. At least the Probe had pop-up headlights, the MX-6 is a bit of a jelly mould - nothing offensive or horribly styled, just quite boring. Plus having experienced Mazda's of this era through the other half's 323, the rust is ridiculous once it takes hold. The MX-6 may not be quite as bad but hearing and seeing horror stories of similar age MX-5s and the like, I'd be seriously wary.

Know it came after (in design terms) but I'd be happier in an equivalent NA Fiat Coupe and indeed was. It had it's issues but that in-line 5 would always make me smile and behind that Pininfarina dash, it always felt special even if it didn't drive brilliantly with the terrible brakes and needing-to-be-refreshed suspension. I'd always look back at that car when I'd parked up, I don't think I'd do that as often with one of these...

tedman

368 posts

105 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I had a Xedos 6 with the 2.0 V6 variant of the same engine. Very smooth and glorious sound. Not lightning fast at all, but a very good cruiser.

Martin 480 Turbo

602 posts

188 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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To whom it may concern (chief editor?)

There was some kind of progress within the american car industry, during the last 20 years. To discover it pistonheads might have to look far more west to California instead of under a flat rock, though.

-> hint, hint, hint.

This day is nearing noon and you are either actively ignoring or at least missing the biggest automotive news of the year.

more hint -> http://electrek.co/2016/03/31/tesla-model-3-in-sto...

If 130.000 people stand in line for it there might be even some more who would want to read about it.

Martin

Edited by Martin 480 Turbo on Friday 1st April 12:06

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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UAE on the plate, apt, they like a drink smile

I like these, good old school Japanese coupe with a really lovely sounding engine. The one we had started rattling really badly and was eventually scrapped.


Blackpuddin

16,555 posts

206 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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kellyt said:
2.3 Mustang claims 317 hp? Edit?
Nope...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ford/mustang-c...

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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There's more to the Mustang connection, surely? The 2.3 engine is the Mazda DISI unit as used in my old CX7, re-badged for Henry. At least that's what I reckon.

The MX6 is a nice enough barge, if the 626 I drove with the same engine is any measure. Decent oomph, likes a drink, sounds good-ish (and better than the 2.3 ltr 4 pot in the 'stang).

Decent value for money. Good shedding.

Dr Nookie

234 posts

201 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I had one for many years and absolutely loved it.
Perfectly reliable, really comfortable and just great to own.

Don't get all the comments re the looks - I always thought it was a great looking car and still do. I got stopped several times by people admiring it - in traffic, at the petrol station... The probe looks awful to be, a styling disaster.

The only weak point was the back box which kept rusting through. I got a Scorpion stainless job which sounded brilliant. For me the engine was a real star. Almost completely silent at tickover and fabulously howley at revs.


PHMatt

608 posts

149 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Not a damn thing wrong with that Mustang Engine
I can assure you too, having driven both and owning a 6 pot BMW, the 300+ bhp from the Mustang 4 will more than make up for the lack of grunt in the 6 pot Mazda Probe

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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I don't understand all the negative comments on the looks either - maybe it just hasn't aged that well. When these were new it was one of the prettiest coupes around.
Mazda had a great range at the time - MX-3, MX-5, MX-6, Xedos 6 and 9 - all interesting and good looking cars.

AdamV8V

1,380 posts

157 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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"Windows and sunroofs can suffer from lazy electricity."

A fantastically shedlicious turn of phrase.

Neil-b3l6l

36 posts

100 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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Spumfry said:
I don't understand all the negative comments on the looks either - maybe it just hasn't aged that well. When these were new it was one of the prettiest coupes around.
Mazda had a great range at the time - MX-3, MX-5, MX-6, Xedos 6 and 9 - all interesting and good looking cars.
I remember seeing all the models in the dealership when my Mum was buying a new car. The MX-3 was looking like the winner...until this: