RE: BMW M3 (E46): PH Carpool

RE: BMW M3 (E46): PH Carpool

Saturday 9th April 2016

BMW M3 (E46): PH Carpool

Effort reaps reward for one PHer in the shape of a lovely E46 M3



Name: Robert Richmond
Car: BMW M3 (E46)
Owned since: 1035am (BST), Saturday September 26th 2015.
Previously owned: 2x Ford Fiesta Mk3, Vauxhall Cavalier 1.7 TD, Rover 400 TD, Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf, 3x VW Golf GTI (Mk2 eight-valve), Toyota Hilux Surf, Subaru Impreza Turbo 2000, Subaru Legacy GTB, Toyota Hilux Double Cab D4-D (current with the M3), BMW 540i Touring (E39).


Why I bought it:
"I realised I could afford it. If anyone had ever asked me, 'would you like an M3?', I would of course have replied 'yes, please'. I had a couple of fast estates recently to fulfil the entertaining car role, but realised I no longer needed the space for bikes thanks to the Hilux and could get something more fun. I started looking, thinking of a Mk5 Golf GTI or Clio 197/200. Then I realised that E46 M3s were at the bottom of their market, and I could afford one if I saved hard. Research began while I fell further in love with the concept (in particular the high specific output naturally aspirated engine), and after viewing three others, I found my car in autumn. I was nervous on my first test drive, not quite believing I was awake when voluntarily handed the key to a BMW M Division car."


What I wish I'd known:
"That they had been so cheap for a year or two already! My research was thorough (thanks in part to the PH buying guide, the M3 cutters forum and shared knowledge from Redish Motorsport's YouTube videos), so I knew how to inspect potential cars for subframe cracks when parked on the street; in fact I spotted two broken ones that way. I had narrowed down my dream spec to something fairly specific (manual, no sunroof, heated red seats and the stereo upgrade), while remaining flexible on colour and mileage. I was aiming at the low- to mid-range of the market so not expecting a low miler, though that has the bonus of meaning I wouldn't be afraid to add plenty of miles and as it happened my car was already just over 100K. The wealth of information has made working on the car very easy, so I can do the servicing and age related maintenance/tidying up with confidence. So far I checked the valve clearances, bled brakes, changed gearbox oil and various other little things. It does seem to be very good for an 11-year old car: there are no rattles, and the ride is good - so much better than some of the rattly older cars I've had - which was a pleasant surprise. It has delivered on everything I'd hoped, meeting expectations on speed (by being jolly fast) and perhaps exceeding the levels of grip and stability I imagined in the bends, especially on tighter roads. It drives superbly, tight, and there are plenty of service and restoration type jobs to keep me as busy as I want."


Things I love:
"I love driving it, I love looking at it, I love working on it. It's hard to get photos of a black car that look great, so sitting looking at it is best, although it is now my desktop background at work too. The owner's manual has a recommendation to use the brakes hard on occasion, and when driving the car quickly you feel it's happy doing it. The engine is keen to spin right up and make that wonderful noise that causes me to giggle, grin, and pat the dashboard every time I'm out enjoying it. The S54 engine is rightly credited as a beaut. I've had endorphin, and rarer adrenaline hits, when driving before but it's been more frequent and more intense in this car. I'm happy to say I've not driven it irresponsibly especially around other road users, and yet it is bags of fun.

"I had a spine tingling feeling of excitement as I reeled in a Cayman the other day on a fun local road, followed by a few miles of brisk and enjoyable driving that ended in pulling up and chatting with the Porsche owner when we caught up on regular traffic. I love how planted and capable it feels even when the windscreen wipers are going non stop, I never imagined a rear-driven performance car would be so good in the wet. I keep it away from salty roads, but was pleased to find it's worth going out in the rain."

Things I hate:
"I can't leave it outside my flat for worrying about it. There are a couple of other cars (a new Polestar V60 and a new modified Focus ST) both vastly more expensive than my M3, and they never seem to suffer vandalism or parking bumps, so despite the central location to the town it would probably be fine. But I can't do it, it stays in the garage across town. That's not a major problem as it's a weekend toy and can sit under a dust cover on charge where I can work on it. That's the best I can do for a hate. I could say I hate traffic lights, speed bumps and anyone else being on the road, but those are general personality traits of mine rather than being in any way related to the car. It was also irritating that the density of cars for sale were far far away from where I live in South Scotland, but that's paid back in all the quiet places to drive and enjoy it. I have a niggle in that the big BMW throttle pedal has it's pivot at the bottom, making it impossible to heel and toe the same way I do in the Hilux (necessitated for smooth changes on a cold 170K+ mile gearbox in the Toyota). So I need to spend some time learning the foot position to get the bonus 'I am a driving god' points."


Costs:
"It was the first time my insurance was less than the annual road fund licence (turning 30 helped), it was surprisingly cheap to insure. On my rural runs with a few brisk miles and more gentle ones there are over 25 miles covered per gallon (easily over 30 on a steadier long journey). So a little more that the 540 and at greater speeds. I've done the spannering so far, so no labour costs but I do seem to easily get rid of my disposable income by refreshing parts and getting it tip top. Nothing has 'needed' done so far besides a broken exhaust rubber at £20, I'll hope that lasts. Valve clearance check and inspection 2 level service was needed when I got it, as the garage just did the oil, but at £45 for plugs and £7 for the two shims needed didn't break the bank. The fluids cost what fluids cost. There can be big bills, brake discs, pads and tires will be vastly more than for any of my previous cars, but it still seems good value for money and like my older cars before it there should be no depreciation on its value."

Where I've been:
"Kirkstone Pass in the Lakes was great, despite being in November. There are some ideal roads near me that form the basis of its usual outings, favourites being parts of the A702 from Dalry to Abington, and the A712 from Crocketford to Newton Stewart. I have a plan for North Coast 500 run in April which I'm very much looking forward to."

What next?
I'd like to fully restore the underside, i.e. repaint all the metal bits that have surface corrosion. So maybe I can make a start on that over winter 2016. This M3 seems to be a stupendous balance of power, performance, eminence, lineage and affordability meaning I have no current ideas on what could replace it. I've kept a car for around five years before, this is hopefully making a good case to be kept for a while. I'd like to try at some point a cheaper Clio (172/182) and a two-seater, Elise or MX-5 perhaps, but these would need to be part timers or the girlfriend's car. I'd also like to try out a 911 (996 or 997) some time, but really I am very content with my M3 just now."


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Discussion

rtz62

Original Poster:

3,369 posts

155 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Great write up about a car I've long harboured a desire to own.
In fact, probably the spec I'd have (18" wheels if I'm not mistaken?) other than I'd prefer black heated leather to red.
I wonder how many potential owners forget about the rear subframe issues, which are well documented, in their haste to purchase an M3?
I think I'll delve back into the buyers guide on PH again, and reacquaint myself with the issues that need looking for on a potential purchase, as you have quite rightly said that values are probably at their lowest, and can only head one way, surely.
Again, a good write up (let's hope PH publish my tepid toe concerning my quattro soon - a nudge there to Dan Trent...!!), and it sounds like you and the M3 will remain close friends for a good while.

Edited by rtz62 on Monday 4th April 10:47

Captainawesome

1,817 posts

163 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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I had 2. One with an evolve carbon box and one with a supercharger bolted on.

The one with the evolve box is the one car I genuinely miss. I absolutely loved my old M3. Now driving an S5 and while the V8 is lovely I miss the s54. I believe by the end of the year I will have swapped back to an M3.

Enjoy her.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Are BMW still fixing the rear subframes, or has that time ended now?

Lovely cars.

Captainawesome

1,817 posts

163 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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I used to live on the north west section of the NC500. You'll have a cracking time doing that route in this car 👍

Blackbird425

1,896 posts

105 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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[quote=rtz62]In fact, probably the spec I'd have (19" wheels if I'm not mistaken?) other than I'd prefer black heated leather to red.


Aren't they the smaller 18s?

rtz62

Original Poster:

3,369 posts

155 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Yes, quite right, I'll blame the small 'keys' on my pie phone, my big thumbs, and my eagerness to post on that mistake!! 👍

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Krikkit said:
Are BMW still fixing the rear subframes, or has that time ended now?

Lovely cars.
10 years goodwill, so only the very late cars still covered. There are a few companies out there doing preventative work though, plating the likely stress area (either welded or bonded in place) and/or injecting the whole area with a foam resin like BMW do in their repair

Watch out for leaky self-dimming interior mirrors too, a manufacturing fault - again another cheap preventive solution worth doing IMO

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Lovely car. An itch I'm going to have to scratch one day, ideally before they start going up in value.

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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As far as I was aware when I bought my 2001 330 Vert, was that the subframe issue only really affected pre 2000 year cars?
It was the same for the Z3's

A friend of mine had a pre 2000 Z3 that wasn't that old at the time and his cracked. BMW fixed it no questions asked back then.


If this M3 is anything like my 330 I would be checking:
Front control arm rear bushes
Drop links
Shocks
Rad/Expansion tank
ARB bushes
All as a must - these things all go wrong frequently. Not if but when.

They'll all DIY'able

El Shafto

133 posts

145 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Big fan of these. So much character.

Interesting to see how the values hold up over the next few years. Wonder if they'll drop even further and follow the E36.

simundo777

138 posts

171 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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The values are already on the way up and fast. I sold mine (CS model) over 6 months ago and got more than I paid for it 2 years previous. Even in those 6 months the values have increased.

Anyone waiting for them to go down, I really wouldn't bother. Get one bought!

Great cars and I do miss mine but as a daily I found it a little frustrating as the engine needs to revved so hard to really enjoy. As a weekend toy though, what a machine!

Itsallicanafford

2,770 posts

159 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Amazing cars, on the second hand market for the money they just kill everything else...

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Indeed - the mark for CS seems to now be around the 20k which is up 5k in about 5 months.

Personally I think a manual CS is highly desirable but I would say that. I have one of what I believe are only 6 silver CS cars in the country and I think mine is the only manual version of the 6. Someone tell me otherwise....

JsyM3

98 posts

137 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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It seems that the average prices for these is starting to creep up so I'd suggest getting in on the game asap. As the E46 is the last of the N/A straight sixed M3's (and an epic engine too), especially in a world becoming ever more turbo charged, means these will become increasingly more desirable to petrolheads.

I've had mine for just over 2 years and love the depreciation free motoring from such a characterful car/engine. Every journey an event and any big bills are easier to swallow when you know you aren't losing value on the underlying vehicle like you would on a newer car.




BenGB

117 posts

129 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Lovely car!
I bought mine (an early 51 plate) last summer and use it every day. MPG is terrible on my commute as it's short and in slow traffic, but you can forgive pretty much anything when you open her up on a sunny day with the windows down.
I unfortunately recently discovered boot floor cracks, but I'm using man maths to justify getting the repairs done. I'll keep her for a good 3 or 4 years more, and I reckon the value will go up to ensure I get the money back...
Shop around if getting the work done as most of the cost is the labour stripping down, welding and putting back together. Labour rates vary wildly at specialists so you can save a fair bit if you are prepared to travel.

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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The axle carrier panel and boot floor cracking issue is a worry. Seems the factory welds, and panels are woefully inadequate eek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMptH7FMOw4

This is shocking. Are they all a ticking timebomb in this respect?

I could look after the oily bits myself, and I have successfully done simple MIG repairs to MOT standard, but these kind of repairs would be well outside my skill level. This must be many thousands of pounds worth of work.

Edited by Limpet on Monday 4th April 13:44

Blackbird425

1,896 posts

105 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Fantastic cars that they are, I can't see the values of the non CS / CSL models doing anything too exciting, unless Hexagon or Dick Lovett are selling them. There's surely too many of them and for those who can't spanner them themselves, the potential for big bills is huge.

I'd take mine in any colour other than silver or black.

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Limpet said:
The axle carrier panel and boot floor cracking issue is a worry. Seems the factory welds, and panels are woefully inadequate eek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMptH7FMOw4

This is shocking. Are they all a ticking timebomb in this respect?

I could look after the oily bits myself, and I have successfully done simple MIG repairs to MOT standard, but these kind of repairs would be well outside my skill level. This must be many thousands of pounds worth of work.

Edited by Limpet on Monday 4th April 13:44
It's far more of an issue on pre 2000 models. You're more likely to see it affect a 1999 328i than a post 01 M3

BenGB

117 posts

129 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Limpet said:
The axle carrier panel and boot floor cracking issue is a worry. Seems the factory welds, and panels are woefully inadequate eek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMptH7FMOw4

This is shocking. Are they all a ticking timebomb in this respect?

I could look after the oily bits myself, and I have successfully done simple MIG repairs to MOT standard, but these kind of repairs would be well outside my skill level. This must be many thousands of pounds worth of work.

Edited by Limpet on Monday 4th April 13:44
It can happen on any e46 of any age and power - it seems to be luck of the draw, although lots of racing starts won't help. Prices I've been quoted range from £800 up to around £2200 inc VAT. Some places make up the plates themselves, some use the Redish Motorsport kit. Damage can range from small cracks to the boot floor pretty much dropping out, but it tends to be caught before it gets that serious.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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I loved my E46 M3s, and they ride so much better on the 18s. I bought a set for the track and ended up using them all the time.

I got mine finished in anthracite....