RE: Shed of the Week: Skoda Octavia vRS
RE: Shed of the Week: Skoda Octavia vRS
Friday 15th April 2016

Shed of the Week: Skoda Octavia vRS

High performance, low cost and maximum subtlety - what more does the family Shedman need?



Did you know that the only British person who pronounces 'Skoda' correctly is Sean Connery? If you don't believe that, hark at how the voiceover bloke on this ad delivers it at the end.

While we're in Connery mode, it seems only right to remind ourselves of how far Shkoda has come in a short time. Not so very long ago, 'jokes' like "what's the difference between a Skoda and a Jehovah's Witness?" "You can shut the door on a Jehovah's Witness" and "what do you call a Skoda with twin exhausts?" "A wheelbarrow" were splitting sides all over the UK. Sort of.

Dodgy screenwash pipes here will ruin your shopping
Dodgy screenwash pipes here will ruin your shopping
In the face of such hilarity Skoda has always put on a corporate smile and remained stoic. To be honest their pre-21st century cars were never as bad as they were painted. That's not a criticism of their paintshop, by the way.

Not many folk realise that VW was fighting against Renault for the right to link up with Skoda back in 1991. Renault lost out because they saw Skoda as a kind of bread-basket operation for their cheap and small motors, whereas VW promised to include the Czech operation in its higher-value manufacturing plans.

And so it transpired. The VW tie-up kicked off a new era of 'proper' Skodas, the Octavia of 1996 being one of them. 2001's vRS was the first performance Skoda to announce itself as such.

It was a front-driver, but that didn't stop journos (or traffic police) raving about it. £15,100 was a pure bargain for a torquey, 7.6 seconds to 60, 147mph hatchback with the capacity to take five people and their luggage somewhere far away in speed and comfort. The only minor negative was the absence of a sixth gear.

Pretty fresh inside for 130K
Pretty fresh inside for 130K
It was well built and reliable though. In 2003 the Octavia came third out of 137 cars in a big car mag survey. A year after that, Skoda as a marque came second in the JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey, with the Octavia finishing joint fourth in the models listing. So, what's the catch with this spanking red vRS?

Well, a decade after all the plaudits, we know a little more about the 20-valve 1.8 turbo engine. Air mass sensors and turbo dump valves can fail, and design flaws like the famously fragile plastic water pump impellers on early engines (like this one) cause catastrophic damage when they crumble because the timing belt gets thrown off at the same time. Changing the belts and pumps (every 60K miles if you know what's good for you) isn't an especially quick job.

This particular car is from the 2001-02 era when one or more of the four ignition coils on this car could be expected to go south. That wasn't a Skoda exclusive. There was a huge coils hoo-hah between the wider VW group and its crestfallen supplier, and an even bigger one among the poor sods who, for a time, were tearing their hair out in a fruitless search for working replacements. 

And there's an MOT until December too
And there's an MOT until December too
Back to our Octavia. The pipes to the rear screenwash can pop off. You'll know that's happened when (a) the screen isn't being cleaned and (b) the Rice Krispies you put into the enormous boot keep turning into Rice Soggies. That's another VW group peccadillo that's as familiar to Golf owners as to Octavia ones.

Shed isn't sure about this vRS but many of the Octavias he has driven have had a peculiar quirk in the speedometer design wherein the gaps between the speed increments reduced in size the faster you went. Only Skoda does this. Why? Who knows.

Outside this car is a bright as a button with factory-fresh shutlines and mint alloys. The cabin looks just as sweet. Two owners, one nice long MOT and there's even a towbar to drag your Rapid to the local banger race, though possibly not back again.

Given the risks, £850 seems a fair price. You might be lucky. And if you are, you will be very lucky. Good cars, these.

Here's the ad.

Red, 2 owners, Next MOT due 14/12/2016, Climate Control, Alloy Wheels (17in), Computer, Electric Windows (Front/Rear), In Car Entertainment (Radio/Cassette/CD Autochanger), Upholstery Cloth/Leather, Airbags, Alarm, Alloy wheels, CD Player. 5 seats, This car was taken in part exchange by us at Trade Price Cars. Not Mechanically checked or Inspected however we will always give you an accurate description of the car before you travel. CALL 07977223024 FOR ANY QUESTIONS, RAC Dealer, Competitive Prices 24/7, UK Delivery, 12 Months MOT & Breakdown, Warranty, Part Exchange, £850
1.8 vRS 5dr




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HorneyMX5

Original Poster:

5,644 posts

176 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Shed's on form this week. Cracking cars these.

marshall100

1,124 posts

227 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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No. Too many things to go wrong, and they will go wrong. We had a 1.8T 4x4 estate (I'd guess the engine is the same?) that had low miles, one owner and a full history. After 6 months of trouble free motoring I thought it better than my forester turbo of the same year.....

And then it started to go wrong, even skoda told us trying to fault find was a hopeless task. I consider myself to be fairly competent a fixing most things, but countless hours of fiddling and swapping out sensors, hoses etc yielded nothing. I cheered when it was written off in a minor accident.

I'll never have another car from VAG.

Still got the fozzy though...

X5TUU

12,728 posts

213 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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no, not for me.

I dont doubt it has potential but around Newcastle these seem to be almost exclusively driven by early 20's males who seem to think they are driving in the WRC and not a luke-warm-family-wagon ... normally followed by plooms of smoke from the knackered engine

JackThrust

158 posts

189 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Fantastic cars, I had one for two years and it's quite simply the best car I've had. Ok it's not the fastest or sharpest out there but it was just a great all rounder.

Never had a single problem with mine, wish I'd kept it and I'm now considering a MK2 VRs to replace my FN2 Type R that I just can't get on with.


AH33

2,066 posts

161 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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I couldn't.

I'm from the time when they were crap cars for very poor people. It was better to have a bus pass than tell people you drove a Skoda. These days they make very sensible cars for thrifty types, but the brand and badge is still forever tainted in my mind.

That, and they've never designed a car i've even vaguely liked the styling of. But I suppose that is not the point.

graham22

3,314 posts

231 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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marshall100 said:
No. Too many things to go wrong, and they will go wrong. We had a 1.8T 4x4 estate (I'd guess the engine is the same?) that had low miles, one owner and a full history. After 6 months of trouble free motoring I thought it better than my forester turbo of the same year.....

And then it started to go wrong, even skoda told us trying to fault find was a hopeless task. I consider myself to be fairly competent a fixing most things, but countless hours of fiddling and swapping out sensors, hoses etc yielded nothing. I cheered when it was written off in a minor accident.

I'll never have another car from VAG.

Still got the fozzy though...
Nail pretty much hit on the head there. I had an ex who owned a couple of Fabias with a Polo in between and myself having an Audi A3.

Whilst components were shared between the VW and Audi, you could see much of the Skoda pieces looked similar but were different (almost 'Eastern' copies). Had a run of switchgear & trim type issues, suspension/spring issues on both Fabias plus many other silly little things.

The most surprising thing about them was the quality of paintwork behind the, often removed, interior trim.

Saying that, I did look at an Octy VRS as a shed between cars for a while but found it a little underwhelming, would prefer it's Leon cousin.

Don't Saab do the closer gaps on the top end of the speedo too?


eta - laughing at the above thrifty owner image - do you know my ex, display constantly on mpg?





Edited by graham22 on Friday 15th April 09:26

aarondbs

883 posts

172 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Great shed, and its not only Skoda who do that reducing increment thing on the speedo. My Amarok did it too!!

rb5er

11,657 posts

198 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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I went to look at these a few years ago. They were all knackered dogs at around £2000.

They don't drive particularly well and feel quite flimsy for such a solid looking family saloon.

Cheap car at £850 though but I wouldn't trust it to be reliable at all.

Edited by rb5er on Friday 15th April 09:33

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

200 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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AH33 said:
I couldn't.

I'm from the time when they were crap cars for very poor people. It was better to have a bus pass than tell people you drove a Skoda. These days they make very sensible cars for thrifty types, but the brand and badge is still forever tainted in my mind.
Well then I think you are a bit stuck in the past. I don't know of anyone that still perceives the Skoda brand like that. When I think of Skoda (or Seat) I think of a more affordable / sporty version of Volkswagen or Audi.

This SOTW doesn't particularly excite me but it looks to be a really decent car for the money. With a bit of haggle you could buy the car and tax it for a year all for under £1000.

I had a Toledo which I think is based on the same platform? Few niggles but a pretty decent car for the money.


darrenw

346 posts

309 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Wow. People still can't write about Skodas without dragging up "jokes" from decades ago.

I quite like Octavias, been on a few long cross-Europe trips in them. Good mile eaters and the VRS packs a bit of punch.

AH33

2,066 posts

161 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
Well then I think you are a bit stuck in the past. I don't know of anyone that still perceives the Skoda brand like that. When I think of Skoda (or Seat) I think of a more affordable / sporty version of Volkswagen or Audi.

This SOTW doesn't particularly excite me but it looks to be a really decent car for the money. With a bit of haggle you could buy the car and tax it for a year all for under £1000.
Oh, Im stuck in the past alright. Its comfortable there.

How old are you? Maybe that's it. When I was growing up, this was your typical joke of a skoda



I still see that when I see a Fabia.

AH33

2,066 posts

161 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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darrenw said:
Wow. People still can't write about Skodas without dragging up "jokes" from decades ago.
Thats what I mean - the jokes are still around. They've STILL got an image problem, despite making decent cars now. I don't know why they didn't just change their name and end the jokes there and then.

Blackpuddin

19,252 posts

231 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Those guys seem to be having fun in that Felicia. Get one of them with the non-turbo diesel lump and you've got a dog car for life.

anonymous-user

80 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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I had the opinion that Skodas were now ok, but then I hadn't been in a new one. Every single one I have now been driven in or driven has light doors that feel like they're made of aluminium foil, and loud road/tyre noise. I have also been in a 50k mile old Superb which had an engine fault (which of course the owner didn't recognise) but the power would dip slightly at 2k rpm.

They look like a good proposition and every now and then I think hmmm that looks nice, but then I remember that like most cars, the day to day reality is far away from the exterior glitz.



AH33

2,066 posts

161 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Blackpuddin said:
Those guys seem to be having fun in that Felicia. Get one of them with the non-turbo diesel lump and you've got a dog car for life.
Well, one of them is biggrin

I think it's a favorit though. That's what I searched for anyway.

s m

24,303 posts

229 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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Looks a nice motor for the cash.
They pulled off quite a PR arousal with the Autocar test demo car smile

X5TUU

12,728 posts

213 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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AH33 said:
I couldn't.

I'm from the time when they were crap cars for very poor people. It was better to have a bus pass than tell people you drove a Skoda.
This as well ... I'm 34, so not too old but old enough to have grown up around big petrol heads that instilled this in me

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

125 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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You could buy this, run it into the ground and then eBay the parts to the local minicabbers.
As such it makes a load of sense. You could even do some minicabbing yourself.

daveco

4,382 posts

233 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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X5TUU said:
AH33 said:
I couldn't.

I'm from the time when they were crap cars for very poor people. It was better to have a bus pass than tell people you drove a Skoda.
This as well ... I'm 34, so not too old but old enough to have grown up around big petrol heads that instilled this in me
32 and the opposite. I always perceive modern Skoda owners to be more "enlightened" than their VW/Audi counterparts, because they're not paying £5-£10k extra for a badge and a slightly nicer interior.


Skoda is cheap HP at its finest.


stugolf

480 posts

229 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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AH33 said:
VolvoT5 said:
Well then I think you are a bit stuck in the past. I don't know of anyone that still perceives the Skoda brand like that. When I think of Skoda (or Seat) I think of a more affordable / sporty version of Volkswagen or Audi.

This SOTW doesn't particularly excite me but it looks to be a really decent car for the money. With a bit of haggle you could buy the car and tax it for a year all for under £1000.
Oh, Im stuck in the past alright. Its comfortable there.

How old are you? Maybe that's it. When I was growing up, this was your typical joke of a skoda



I still see that when I see a Fabia.
To be fair you sound like an idiot...

I'm sure a DS3 or VXR is a far better car than any Skoda rolleyes

I remember (when I was growing up) Citroen where French tat and Vauxhall made cheap built to a price cars....how times have changed!

Great shed by the way, 220Bhp easily achievable for little money and a few mods to make usre the 1.8T keeps running well, over 130k wouldn't bother me