RE: Kia C'eed GT: Review

RE: Kia C'eed GT: Review

Tuesday 19th April 2016

Kia C'eed GT: Review

Facelifted and refreshed, how does the quick Kia fare in a fierce hot hatch market?



So who's forgotten about the Kia Cee'd and Pro_Cee'd GT? It's entirely possible, what with the ongoing 'ring saga at the upper echelons of the hot hatch market and the wealth of excellent pocket rockets in the segment below. The warm hatch sector, with cars like the Kia, the Leon FR and the 308 GT, can often be overlooked. With cars as talented as the five-door Cee'd GT, it really shouldn't be.

Ever so slightly different, but still pretty stylish
Ever so slightly different, but still pretty stylish
Not a great deal has changed in the facelift, the GT now distinguished by a new grille and bumper, a 'D-shaped' steering wheel (what was so wrong with a round one?) and front brake discs an inch larger in diameter. Rather worryingly an electric sound generator for "an even more rich and exciting engine note" in the cabin is also now standard.

A mild update then, but given how much was already so well sorted in the Cee'd that's no bad thing. In fact, it's worth starting off with what the GT isn't so good at to highlight its strengths. The seats are set a little high, the steering is overly light and the engine is pretty ordinary. Oh yes, and the sat-nav froze a couple of times during our week-long test. There really is nothing else to grumble about.

In a sector of endlessly configurable hot hatches it's a pleasant surprise to find that, not only does the Cee'd GT not have a million different settings, it also feels pleasingly sorted with just one set up for everything. The 'GT' button turns on that sound generator - with little discernible effect - but otherwise only alters the instrument displays. Other than that the steering, throttle response and suspension remain unchanged. And they're good!

New wheels also included in update
New wheels also included in update
On British B-roads the ride has a tautness that allows you to carry speed with confidence. Matched to strong brakes and a good gearbox, it's certainly more pleasant to use than the 308 GTI, Leon Cupra and Focus ST - it's a really pleasant car to drive. There's decent grip and traction from the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tyres plus - praise be - none of those frustrating moments pondering whether it would have felt better through that corner with heavier steering or a softer damper setting.

Push harder and its weaknesses begin to unravel, the Cee'd struggling to deal with bumps and imperfections once the chassis is loaded up. At those points where the best hot hatches are inspirational, the Kia does fall short. But given its billing as a GT and not a more extreme performance version, the Kia's dynamic performance is entirely appropriate and, more to the point, very good.

Not the best, but still pretty darn good
Not the best, but still pretty darn good
Where the 1.6-litre 'Gamma' turbo engine was merely a weak link in the package at launch, it is now made to look a little outdated. Consider this: the 2.0-litre, 310hp engine in the Honda Civic Type R returns better fuel economy and CO2 figures than the 1.6-litre, 201hp Cee'd GT. Regardless of whether that sound generator is engaged or not, the noise is sadly a little bland and it lacks the revviness of the best turbos as well. The engine isn't bad - it feels quick enough and it's refined at a cruise - but in no area does it feel near the class best.

The rest of the package remains competitive though. Even with just a mild styling refresh, the Cee'd is a good looking car and something different in a class crammed with various Golfs and Focuses. The interior is well equipped (including standard Recaro seats) solidly built and stylish. Don't forget that seven-year warranty too.

The long and short of it is that the Kia Cee'd GT is a good car; not good for a Kia, or good for an alternative option, but just good. That sounds like it's being damned with faint praise, but is rather a reflection of the GT's ability to hold its head high in a competitive sector without ever feeling like the very best option in it. Should Kia wish to make a more focused version of the Cee'd, there's a strong foundation in this car to build one.

Go on, try it - you might just be surprised
Go on, try it - you might just be surprised
But if you're in the market for a slightly more mature and less frantic hot hatch, can the Kia still be recommended? At £23,105 (or £23,610 with the optional 'Track Red' paint here), it faces rivals such as the Ford Focus ST (from £22,745), the £24,295 Peugeot 308 GT and the Skoda Octavia vRS at £24,230. It's probably worth adding the SEAT Leon FR to that list as well, offering less power at 184hp but available from just £21,565.

From our experience though, the Focus ST still comes out on top. The Kia is arguably more stylish and undeniably better equipped, but for PH the draw of its additional performance and more exciting dynamic balance is enough to tip the verdict in its favour. For those tempted by the Cee'd however, they will find a great deal to like and little to be disappointed by.


KIA C'EED GT
Engine
: 1,591cc, four-cylinder turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 204@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 195@1,500-4,500rpm
0-60mph: 7.3sec
Top speed: 143mph
Weight: from 1,367kg
MPG: 38.2
CO2: 171g/km
Price: £23,615 (Basic of £23,105 and £510 for metallic paint)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Photos: Dafydd Wood

Author
Discussion

James Junior

Original Poster:

827 posts

158 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Love these. One of the best looking hot (warm?!) hatches in the market in mu opinion.

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I don't want to run down the Honda but has anyone actually measured real-world mpg figures (or even CO2 for that matter) on both of these cars.. It's possible that Kia is less shall we say, optimistic about its figures than Honda...

Doesn't look a bad looking car, though I wince when I hear about synthetic engine sounds piped into the cabin. I know this is fairly common practice but I can't say it will ever sit comfortably with me.. I'm not big on Playstations and XBox's these days..

TheTyreAbuser

170 posts

99 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Was looking at the original Pro-Cee'd GT when I got my Fiesta ST. Honestly I think the Kia is a seriously good looking car, especially the 3 door. The interior is great and as has been said the ride and steering really are pretty damn good.
If I had been slightly less fussed about going as fast as possible (with the Mountune kit) for as little as possible I'd have had the Kia.
I still see a black 3 door about and it always makes me slightly wish I'd gone for it... Might be worth having one second hand and with a bit of a remap it could be a real winner...

davamer23

1,127 posts

155 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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They are a great looking car and have plenty of kit. The other half has had a Pro-ceed gtline diesel for 6weeks (side skirts,led cluster's like the Gt but different seats/wheels. It really is great value. It's on a 2yr lease 10k pa. Maintained all in just over £5k for the term. You'd be hard pushed to get more kit for the money.

Don't see many "full fat" Gt's on the road though.

Egret

2 posts

121 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Can you turn off the engine noise generators? Or do they reproduce all the odd noises that help you diagnose minor engine issues in later life?

rtz62

3,370 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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'A D-shaped steering wheel'?
Really?
As opposed to a 'flat-bottomed steering wheel'?
I have a mental picture of a steering wheel with the flat portion on the left side, but I suppose those ever-so-slightly nutty South Koreans just had to show their ever-so-slightly bonkers neighbours that they were as nutty as squirrel poo too...
I bet Kim Jong-in is sat there flagellating himself with a cat o'nine tails made from his own nostril clippings, threatening to strap his countries car designers to anti-aircraft guns unless they come up with a steering wheel which is flat on two adjoining sides......

rtz62

3,370 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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And the alloy wheel design is hardly new, it looks remarkably like the ones available for a certain Audi RS6;



Although in their defence there must be only so many ways you can design wheels to fit within a wheel diameter!

Squadrone Rosso

2,760 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Like these a lot. My affordable car of the 2014 Geneva Motorshow.

I'd have to have the 3 door version though.

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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James Junior said:
Love these. One of the best looking hot (warm?!) hatches in the market in mu opinion.
I'd say warm, not hot.

Dale487

1,334 posts

124 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I've always had a bit of a soft spot for these - good looking (better than the Focus & Astra), quick enough , they sound like a decent enough steer and well priced for the healthy standard spec.

Evo are on their 2nd Pro C'eed GT and rate it highly - not sure about the yellow though (red, white or black for me).


J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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iphonedyou said:
James Junior said:
Love these. One of the best looking hot (warm?!) hatches in the market in mu opinion.
I'd say warm, not hot.
Mad isnt it that over 200 bhp doesnt even qualify as a Hot Hatch now.

Not sure I could find the enthusiasm to spend 23 grand on one with all the other option but sure its a pretty decent car.

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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My 23 grand wouldn't be going into a Kia, either.

Stephen-df33i

33 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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As the owner a proceed GT Tech (sorry, "pro_cee'd"), I could not be happier with the car! Alot of reviews have said it needs more power or that it doesn't rev as high as others. In the real world, I think it is absolutely ideal. It will pull from 1500 revs so you barely need it above 3000 however it has quite a kick if you do take it beyond there. My other half owns an Impreza STi & i've driven all sorts of cars so know what a fast car feels like, however for 'real world' driving with a mix of country, motorway and town, the Kia is brilliant for me having a much wider powerband and must easier to pull away without changing gear all the time.

Interior wise, it has black headlining to make it feel very different from the standard Kia range and the seats are brilliant. Not too high for me (a short-ar5e), just right to feel inside the car and not on top of it. The heated steering wheel is bliss and the dash screen & sat-nav screens are really high quality and nice to use. I have used the latest VAG media screens and they look really quite old and poor quality (Sorry fellow owners!).
As for the looks, we all have our own tastes. I like a car I can admire EVERY time for its good looks, not how much is shows off. I own a classic Morris Minor and the GT gets as nearly many admiring looks and comments from friends, family and pedestrians as the Mog. I am yet to find someone who dislikes it. I am not keen on the facelift alloys though..

I tried a few of the alternative hatchbacks from the Focus/1 Series size to 208/Fiesta and it sits perfectly in the middle Very practical, great speed but not too much that the insurance is on par with a 1.4 diesel.

I tested 3 GT's in all and even got a fast lap round Silverstone in one - the biggest advice for anyone looking for a GT is to have a long test drive. Its alot less 'jiggly' than some cars yet is firm enough to have fun and not throw you off at every bump.
I really dont know what to exchange it for - perhaps the estate version if they release it?


Trikster

824 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Looked at the GT for Mrs Trikster, really impressed with the car but then felt that, as she wouldn't be driving the handles off it, we'd look elsewhere in the range - ended up with a 1.0 GT-Line - equipped and looks of a'GT' type but with the 'lesser' engine - put lesser in quotes as actually it feels faster in the real world due to the way it pulls from low revs - 20% off list too makes it a bargain in the new car world.... Still only 700 miles on it and 40mpg average is pleasing too - a mix of short runs and those at, a-hem, motorway speeds....

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

206 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Stephen-df33i said:
As the owner a proceed GT Tech (sorry, "pro_cee'd"), I could not be happier with the car! Alot of reviews have said it needs more power or that it doesn't rev as high as others. In the real world, I think it is absolutely ideal. It will pull from 1500 revs so you barely need it above 3000 however it has quite a kick if you do take it beyond there. My other half owns an Impreza STi & i've driven all sorts of cars so know what a fast car feels like, however for 'real world' driving with a mix of country, motorway and town, the Kia is brilliant for me having a much wider powerband and must easier to pull away without changing gear all the time.

Interior wise, it has black headlining to make it feel very different from the standard Kia range and the seats are brilliant. Not too high for me (a short-ar5e), just right to feel inside the car and not on top of it. The heated steering wheel is bliss and the dash screen & sat-nav screens are really high quality and nice to use. I have used the latest VAG media screens and they look really quite old and poor quality (Sorry fellow owners!).
As for the looks, we all have our own tastes. I like a car I can admire EVERY time for its good looks, not how much is shows off. I own a classic Morris Minor and the GT gets as nearly many admiring looks and comments from friends, family and pedestrians as the Mog. I am yet to find someone who dislikes it. I am not keen on the facelift alloys though..

I tried a few of the alternative hatchbacks from the Focus/1 Series size to 208/Fiesta and it sits perfectly in the middle Very practical, great speed but not too much that the insurance is on par with a 1.4 diesel.

I tested 3 GT's in all and even got a fast lap round Silverstone in one - the biggest advice for anyone looking for a GT is to have a long test drive. Its alot less 'jiggly' than some cars yet is firm enough to have fun and not throw you off at every bump.
I really dont know what to exchange it for - perhaps the estate version if they release it?

Looks great, glad to hear you're enjoying it!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I think these look brilliant - a young chap who lives near us has a white one and it is a very amart looking motor.


Sadly I'd be looking elsewhere at this price point, but I wouldn't blame anybody for picking one of these up rather than any of its rivals.

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Its daft comparing this to the Type R.

jasonpaul

164 posts

163 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Well I test Drove the C'eed GT last September and found the engine dated. The car looks ok but if it is going head against the likes of VW and Ford it has to up its game, its a nearly they car!!! but not yet.

Sorry my score would be 5/10 sorry.

I was testing against a VW Golf GTD for my every day car, as my Toy is a New Porsche I have had lots of cars.

KTF

9,809 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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Egret said:
Can you turn off the engine noise generators? Or do they reproduce all the odd noises that help you diagnose minor engine issues in later life?
In BMWs there is something in the boot that you can unplug to disable the synthesiser. I imagine there is something similar you can do on this.

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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I had some fool in a red one of these tailgate down the A1 last a few weeks ago, dancing around behind me like he was going for the undercut at sepang, the traffic ahead cleared and he fell back quickly not sure what he was trying to do or prove, apart from they're not very quick.