RE: The ?30K M5: You Know You Want To

RE: The ?30K M5: You Know You Want To

Thursday 12th May 2016

The £30K M5: You Know You Want To

How much more appealing is the turbocharged M5 with an M135i price tag?



Yes, alright, the first rule of new car buying has been broken in that standfirst: thou shall not compare a new car to a used alternative. There are inevitably too many issues around conditions, warranties, running costs and so on.


All that being said (famous last words), certain cars become a lot more alluring when they drop below a certain price point. It will probably happen when GT86s get below £10K, for example. And with current generation (F10) BMW M5s now less than £30K, perhaps they're due a reappraisal.

Yep, prices for a 560hp M car can begin with a '2' now. And not just cars with mega miles either, but that's a point we'll return to. It would appear that the M5 has followed a regular depreciation curve for a big, fast saloon, it's just that there's been so much else going on in the sector to distract us from that.

Think about it: the current Audi RS6 is very good, the RS7 is there as a four-door alternative, the AMG E-Class is better than it's ever been and even Jaguar has gone a bit lairy with the XFR-S. All this time the M5 has been losing value without too much attention being paid to it.


Moreover, there's been enough coming out of M Division to divert focus away too. Since 2011 we've had new M SUVs, a turbocharged M3, a four-door M6, the M2 and a 600hp M5 - no wonder the standard car has gone a little unnoticed!

Now general consensus is that this isn't the finest M5 ever. But not only are those flaws easier to overlook at considerably less than half the price, for some people going very, very fast in a discreet package is enough. So what if it's not the most engaging drive? Now it's out of warranty, it could be remapped to even more power... Point is that it's a lot of performance and luxury for £30K, meaning that what the M5 doesn't do so well is less significant.

This looks like a really good one too. BMW service history, 65,000 miles, a mature colour combo... it doesn't appear to have any noticeable drawbacks. Of course you couldn't commit to a purchase of something so complicated - and once so expensive - without a more detailed inspection, but it does look extremely good value.


Trouble is for the M5, lots of other supersaloons lose value pretty rapidly too. This equally subtle Jaguar XFR has less than half the miles of the BMW for the same money. And although the later turbocharged E63 AMGs are currently just out of budget, that does mean those cars with the glorious 6.2 V8 are readily available; this 2009 car looks great.

It will be interesting to see how much further this M5 and its contemporaries will depreciate, and whether they'll still look such good value when they have to be fuelled, insured, taxed and so on. However, should you be in the position for an M5, or indeed any of these V8 saloons, you currently seem to be spoilt for choice.


BMW M5
Price
: £29,995
Why you would: Looks like a 520d, goes like a GT3
Why you wouldn't: Still has some money to lose, lots of tempting rivals too

See the original ad here

 


 

 

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Lordbenny

Original Poster:

8,588 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Or for another £3000 how about a Conti GT?

soad

32,912 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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article said:
Looks like a 520d,
Not really, quad pipes and side vents give the game away.

soad

32,912 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Lordbenny said:
Or for another £3000 how about a Conti GT?
Less "Sporty"...

smithyithy

7,258 posts

119 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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soad said:
Not really, quad pipes and side vents give the game away.
It only takes an //M badge to fool most people on the road though laugh

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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soad said:
Not really, quad pipes and side vents give the game away.
Still, has to be one of the most subtle M cars recently

Guvernator

13,164 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Still got a way to go to become good value IMO. Give it another year and they'll be approaching low 20's and it's only at that sort of figure when I'd be tempted to overlook the fact that it's the dullest M5 made so far.

Sam All

3,101 posts

102 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Guvernator said:
Still got a way to go to become good value IMO. Give it another year and they'll be approaching low 20's and it's only at that sort of figure when I'd be tempted to overlook the fact that it's the dullest M5 made so far.
Fastest, safest, most comfortable and yet dullest.

The E 28 the most desirable, then the E34, then the E39, then the E60 and then this F10 ( might swap positions with the E60).

Guvernator

13,164 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Sam All said:
Fastest, safest, most comfortable and yet dullest.

The E 28 the most desirable, then the E34, then the E39, then the E60 and then this F10 ( might swap positions with the E60).
One of the biggest factors in an M car is the engine for me. The E60 has the legendary V10 so I can't ever see that being overtaken by the dull lump in this car. The E28 and E34 are lovely but a bit too fragile at that age to be used as the daily family wagon although lovely as a car to cherish. I think the M5 hit peak at the E39 and has gone into decline since with the latest one being the poor relation.

theboss

6,919 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Guvernator said:
Still got a way to go to become good value IMO. Give it another year and they'll be approaching low 20's and it's only at that sort of figure when I'd be tempted to overlook the fact that it's the dullest M5 made so far.
Yet the best at what it's actually designed to do and probably the least compromised for somebody who wants a highly comfortable, effortlessly powerful but also potentially engaging daily drive... I have done getting on for 1000 miles this week so far in mine, barely 2 months after spinal surgery, and will be happy to spend another few hours it in this evening. Every other car I've sat in recently I've wanted out of, within 10 miles. Whilst the S63tu may be lacking in character its mercilessly efficient in its execution, especially post remap. I'm delighted with mine and will probably continue doing 30k/year in it until it dies.

Chr1sch

2,585 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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I for one love the latest generation one, the V10 whilst clearly the engine is epic, has equally epic bork factor with gearboxes and bottom ends costing as much as an entire car!

The e39 whilst great is just too old/dated for anything other than a weekend car imo, whilst this looks great, has loads of room and luxury and still goes like the starship enterprise....

My only fear would be putting £30k into a 65k mile M5 is a recipe for at least 50% depreciation in the next 3 years?

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Erm ... 3 previous owners and being sold by S***s - bargepole time ...

court

1,487 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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GranCab said:
Erm ... 3 previous owners and being sold by S***s - bargepole time ...
I'd pay extra to not buy a car from West Yorkshire.

MDMA .

8,903 posts

102 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Shaks. let us know how you get on when you buy it.

Guvernator

13,164 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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theboss said:
Yet the best at what it's actually designed to do and probably the least compromised for somebody who wants a highly comfortable, effortlessly powerful but also potentially engaging daily drive... I have done getting on for 1000 miles this week so far in mine, barely 2 months after spinal surgery, and will be happy to spend another few hours it in this evening. Every other car I've sat in recently I've wanted out of, within 10 miles. Whilst the S63tu may be lacking in character its mercilessly efficient in its execution, especially post remap. I'm delighted with mine and will probably continue doing 30k/year in it until it dies.
Agreed it's probably the best at being the big practical mile muncher. Superb for someone doing 30k miles a year but perhaps just a bit too dull and clinical for someone who is doing 10k and wants a family saloon with a bit of drama\excitement. The other M5' s fulfilled the excitement criteria far better albeit the E60 was probably a bit too compromised as a mile muncher to be fair.

The M5 has always been a fine balance between practicality, comfort and setting your hair on fire, I just think the current one has swung too far into the the comfort zone for my liking. Still like I said when they drop to low 20's I'd still be tempted as you can't argue with 560bhp for that price. smile

James Junior

827 posts

158 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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I own a 370Z thats been fettled with. Its rapid and pushing the boundaries of what is appropriate for road use to be honest. Sticking to the limits on the open road and the motorway is a constant exercise in self control and restraint.

When I look at cars like the M5 which are in another leagure in terms of performance, I just think they are too powerful for road use. I mean you're never going to be able to do more than scratch the surface of all that performance on UK roads without putting your license at risk. Neither is it the sort of car that you're likely to want to take on track.

What do others think on this note?

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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whats not to like? a st load of car for the price
I actually really like how understated it is

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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WCZ said:
whats not to like? a st load of car for the price
I actually really like how understated it is
And don't forget it has got "awesome power" ....

sealtt

3,091 posts

159 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Nasty bit of turbo lag with this engine for town driving etc, but is a laugh when giving it some.

ziggy1024

38 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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Thing is, BMW still make the equivalent of an older M5. They just call it the M3 these days...

Guvernator

13,164 posts

166 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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ziggy1024 said:
Thing is, BMW still make the equivalent of an older M5. They just call it the M3 these days...
I beg to differ. smile