2011 Mazda 6 Sport 2.2D
Discussion
The time had come, with a 4 year old daughter , 16 week old son & their associated junk filling our 3 door Golf GTI to bursting point.
I had always had a hankering after a mk 3 Mondeo ST, and a good looking one had come up for sale locally. Also on the shorlist was a 3 series Touring and slightly leftfield, a Mazda 6. Mainly due to owning and a tired but honest PH favourite MX5, I have a bit of a soft spot for Mazda.
Anyway, said ST didn't give me a good feeling, with problems unlocking it and feeling more tired than the mileage suggested.
Parked nearby was a striking looking Mazda 6 Sport. Had a good look around it, 90k miles but looking fresh and clearly looked after. Excellent service history, and felt tight as a drum on a test drive.
A few discussions with wifey, much research and we decided to go for it. Picked it up today, I've just got back from a spin around and seems to tick the boxes. Roomy, safe, looks good and handles and goes well. And has a Bose stereo :-) First diesel for me, i'm slightly nervous about DPF issues but apparently this affects the 2 litre more than the 2.2.
I had always had a hankering after a mk 3 Mondeo ST, and a good looking one had come up for sale locally. Also on the shorlist was a 3 series Touring and slightly leftfield, a Mazda 6. Mainly due to owning and a tired but honest PH favourite MX5, I have a bit of a soft spot for Mazda.
Anyway, said ST didn't give me a good feeling, with problems unlocking it and feeling more tired than the mileage suggested.
Parked nearby was a striking looking Mazda 6 Sport. Had a good look around it, 90k miles but looking fresh and clearly looked after. Excellent service history, and felt tight as a drum on a test drive.
A few discussions with wifey, much research and we decided to go for it. Picked it up today, I've just got back from a spin around and seems to tick the boxes. Roomy, safe, looks good and handles and goes well. And has a Bose stereo :-) First diesel for me, i'm slightly nervous about DPF issues but apparently this affects the 2 litre more than the 2.2.
Edited by molineux1980 on Friday 17th June 20:07
I ran a 2.2d (the 163bhp version) for nearly four years and it only had one issue with a leaking injector that blocked a filter and caused the oil warning light to come on, I stopped straight away and didn't cause any serious damage.
Apart from that it ran well, averaged about 50mpg over 80k miles and I only got rid of it as I changed jobs and didn't need a diesel anymore.
Apart from that it ran well, averaged about 50mpg over 80k miles and I only got rid of it as I changed jobs and didn't need a diesel anymore.
Nice motors, I very nearly bought one last month.
There is a known problem with injector seal failure -the copper washer at the bottom of the injector - that subsequently leads to the oil pump filter gauze getting blocked, a bit of Google research might be worth your while.
Enjoy the new motor!
There is a known problem with injector seal failure -the copper washer at the bottom of the injector - that subsequently leads to the oil pump filter gauze getting blocked, a bit of Google research might be worth your while.
Enjoy the new motor!
I tried a 6 and a 3 side by side a couple of years ago - the 3 was actually roomier behind the wheel. I bought the 3 (2.2 diesel sport)and sold it within 9 months (losing 3k in the process). The dpf thing was an issue for me. Too many short journeys, the dealer told me. Not a sporty car either, my old diesel Accord with the same size engine was sportier. Not a happy experience - but if you do more longer trips than short, no doubt it will be fine for others.
Some time ago I had a BMW 123d with 201bhp and wondered if the 185bhp Mazda might be a possible alternative, but from road test results at the time the Mazda horses seemed to be a bit weedy (or some had gone missing)!
Shame really as I liked the 3 and 6 models of the early 2000s - latest ones just don't look as good IMHO!
Just don't buy one hoping for performance!
Shame really as I liked the 3 and 6 models of the early 2000s - latest ones just don't look as good IMHO!
Just don't buy one hoping for performance!
ajb85 said:
Is this the same engine of Mondeo ST/Jag X-Type fame? I only ask because I'm looking at the latter and it appears to be a well liked and proven engine, save for the usual and expensive clutch DMF replacement at 100k.
Pretty sure they're completely differnet units! The ZSD 'puma' engine in the Mondeo found ts way into various PSA group vans and the X-Type, as you know, but Mazda developed their own 2.2 diesel (MZR-CD).HTH
A potential ownership ending problem already. Wife had been on a long drive on the motorway, and just as she came off the DPF light began flashing.
Cue frantic searching on the Internet, and it transpires it also flashes when a service is due. It had been serviced in Jan at an independent, and I hopefully assumed they had not reset it. The light had not come on since.
So off we toddle to our local Mazda dealer who plugged it in for us this afternoon.
And came back telling us the cam chain had stretched beyond tolerance. 10.4 max, ours is on 10.7. With further Internet research, this was the source of a recall and a reprogramming for the dpf light to also signal a issue with the cam chain.
So the car has gone back to the garage, who seemed very dubious that the dpf lamp can also signify a stretched cam chain. This is despite us showing them the dealer printout. We've also left the Mazda service managers card with them.
No other errors were present. The garage won't look at it until Monday, but I'm at a crossroads.
There is a 28 day warranty and I'm not prepared to pay for any work, and they have said they will refund us if we want. Or if they agree to replace the cam chain, do we keep it?
I'm raw and I'm all for punting it back to them and struggling on with our 3 door Golf gti. But the wife is very upset and if they do the work, wants to keep it due to the ease of access for the kids and gubbins.
If we do get our money back and we do look for something else, I'm certainly steering clear of diesels. It looks like the repair costs far exceed running costs.
Fed up.
Cue frantic searching on the Internet, and it transpires it also flashes when a service is due. It had been serviced in Jan at an independent, and I hopefully assumed they had not reset it. The light had not come on since.
So off we toddle to our local Mazda dealer who plugged it in for us this afternoon.
And came back telling us the cam chain had stretched beyond tolerance. 10.4 max, ours is on 10.7. With further Internet research, this was the source of a recall and a reprogramming for the dpf light to also signal a issue with the cam chain.
So the car has gone back to the garage, who seemed very dubious that the dpf lamp can also signify a stretched cam chain. This is despite us showing them the dealer printout. We've also left the Mazda service managers card with them.
No other errors were present. The garage won't look at it until Monday, but I'm at a crossroads.
There is a 28 day warranty and I'm not prepared to pay for any work, and they have said they will refund us if we want. Or if they agree to replace the cam chain, do we keep it?
I'm raw and I'm all for punting it back to them and struggling on with our 3 door Golf gti. But the wife is very upset and if they do the work, wants to keep it due to the ease of access for the kids and gubbins.
If we do get our money back and we do look for something else, I'm certainly steering clear of diesels. It looks like the repair costs far exceed running costs.
Fed up.
Edited by molineux1980 on Friday 17th June 20:10
molineux1980 said:
A potential ownership ending problem already. Wife had been on a long drive on the motorway, and just as she came off the DPF light began flashing.
Cue frantic searching on the Internet, and it transpires it also flashes when a service is due. It had been serviced in Jan at an independent, and I hopefully assumed they had not reset it. The light had not come on since.
So off we toddle to our local Mazda dealer who plugged it in for us this afternoon.
And came back telling us the cam chain had stretched beyond tolerance. 10.4 max, ours is on 10.7. With further Internet research, this was the source of a recall and a reprogramming for the dpf light to also signal a issue with the cam chain.
So the car has gone back to the garage, who seemed very dubious that the dpf lamp can also signify a stretched cam chain. This is despite us showing them the dealer printout. We've also left the Mazda service managers card with them.
No other errors were present. The garage won't look at it until Monday, but I'm at a crossroads.
There is a 28 day warranty and I'm not prepared to pay for any work, and they have said they will refund us if we want. Or if they agree to replace the cam chain, do we keep it?
I'm raw and I'm all for punting it back to them and struggling on with our 3 door Golf gti. But the wife is very upset and if they do the work, wants to keep it due to the ease of access for the kids and gubbins.
If we do get our money back and we do look for something else, I'm certainly steering clear of diesels. It looks like the repair costs far exceed running costs.
Fed up.
I had exactly this issue.Cue frantic searching on the Internet, and it transpires it also flashes when a service is due. It had been serviced in Jan at an independent, and I hopefully assumed they had not reset it. The light had not come on since.
So off we toddle to our local Mazda dealer who plugged it in for us this afternoon.
And came back telling us the cam chain had stretched beyond tolerance. 10.4 max, ours is on 10.7. With further Internet research, this was the source of a recall and a reprogramming for the dpf light to also signal a issue with the cam chain.
So the car has gone back to the garage, who seemed very dubious that the dpf lamp can also signify a stretched cam chain. This is despite us showing them the dealer printout. We've also left the Mazda service managers card with them.
No other errors were present. The garage won't look at it until Monday, but I'm at a crossroads.
There is a 28 day warranty and I'm not prepared to pay for any work, and they have said they will refund us if we want. Or if they agree to replace the cam chain, do we keep it?
I'm raw and I'm all for punting it back to them and struggling on with our 3 door Golf gti. But the wife is very upset and if they do the work, wants to keep it due to the ease of access for the kids and gubbins.
If we do get our money back and we do look for something else, I'm certainly steering clear of diesels. It looks like the repair costs far exceed running costs.
Fed up.
Edited by molineux1980 on Friday 17th June 20:10
Bill was circa 600 notes for chain and service. I read Mazda have been cheeky programming that light to come on so they can get it in their garages.
Had a 2.2 Mazda 6 same generation as the one the OP is looking to buy. Flashing DPF was an all too familiar sight for me - it can signify a service is needed or something far nastier. In my experience despite several forced regens the dealer suggested that DPF needed changed and the costs weren't insignificant. I partexed in the end as I'd lost confidence in the car. IMHO I'd step away from this car as I'd be nervous of a big bill behind that flashing DPF.
Nightmare - Struggling with it at the moment. The garage is refusing to acknowledge there is a problem with the car, despite us showing the Mazda dealers report and giving them the Mazda dealers card. They have used there diagnostic equipment apparently and there is nothing wrong. When we asked if they had spoke to the Mazda dealer their answer was "we don't need to". Other remarks such as "Its an 90,000 mile car , of course there will be some stretching" and " you need to drive it to get your confidence back in it."
Balls to my confidence if the chain snaps on the motorway with my wife and 2 young kids in the car.
Car was picked up Wed, light flashing Thursday, then the light stopped flashing. We popped it into a Mazda garage on the Friday for a check over (Thinking it was just the service indicator) and a stretched chain was the diagnosis.
So we spoke to the garage we bought it from, and dropped it back Friday for them to look at. Spoke to the garage owner , gave him the report sheet and explained about the issue. He said they would look over it. Still hadn't heard anything at 5pm Monday until we rang. The light hadn't flashed since and they have declared it ok and said it was ok to have back.
So from the garages point of view, they will say the car is ok, but the refusal is even acknowledge the Mazda report and recall history on this, coupled with their attitude is poor?
Not sure what to do now, car was sold with a 28 day warranty, and we hadn't owned it for 24 hours when this error, and a potential £1000 bill cropped up. It's not something we have the money to repair ourselves, the garage want us to pick the car up. The closest to any action is to offer a subsidised extended warranty.
Am I expecting too much?
Balls to my confidence if the chain snaps on the motorway with my wife and 2 young kids in the car.
Car was picked up Wed, light flashing Thursday, then the light stopped flashing. We popped it into a Mazda garage on the Friday for a check over (Thinking it was just the service indicator) and a stretched chain was the diagnosis.
So we spoke to the garage we bought it from, and dropped it back Friday for them to look at. Spoke to the garage owner , gave him the report sheet and explained about the issue. He said they would look over it. Still hadn't heard anything at 5pm Monday until we rang. The light hadn't flashed since and they have declared it ok and said it was ok to have back.
So from the garages point of view, they will say the car is ok, but the refusal is even acknowledge the Mazda report and recall history on this, coupled with their attitude is poor?
Not sure what to do now, car was sold with a 28 day warranty, and we hadn't owned it for 24 hours when this error, and a potential £1000 bill cropped up. It's not something we have the money to repair ourselves, the garage want us to pick the car up. The closest to any action is to offer a subsidised extended warranty.
Am I expecting too much?
Edited by molineux1980 on Wednesday 22 June 10:19
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