RE: Shed Of The Week: Volvo S60 T 2.4

RE: Shed Of The Week: Volvo S60 T 2.4

Friday 17th June 2016

Shed Of The Week: Volvo S60 T 2.4

Why boring can also be cool, according to our man Shed



You should never start a story with a long sentence containing lots of big words, but surely few would argue with the premise that the rehabilitation of Volvo from the post-nuclear family's safety brand of choice to its status today as a credible purveyor of sport/lux/premiumosity is one of the automotive industry's more interesting success stories.


Anybody left still reading? Good. That was a test of your persistence, which is what's needed for this week's Shed.

Fancy a little experiment? Look at the first page of the ad. We can probably all agree that the pic is rather boring. At this point, most of us would probably click off to somewhere else in the magical mystery land that is PH Classifieds. But hold your water a minute. Have a scroll through the rest of the pics.

Done that? Now, be honest. Did anything happen? Did you find yourself being drawn into the ad, maybe wondering exactly what this car is, perhaps even feeling a slight sense of desire?

Thought so. The lesson here for PH advertisers, or indeed any car vendor using the miracle of the internet to unload a vehicle, is to try and use the best image as the lead shot on your ad. Let's not be too hard on David, the advertiser in this specific case, as he has done a very decent job on the words. He certainly comes across as an honest Joe, but he's forgotten to mention a few salient facts about the S60 T that might ramp up his chances of selling it.


First, the bad news, and it really isn't that bad. This car did fail the MoT last month on an inadequately supported exhaust and an inoperative front winker, jobs which probably took all of 30 seconds to rectify before the pass cert was issued with just one advisory - a deteriorated offside front lower suspension bush not resulting in excessive movement. Amusingly, that's been on the advisory list for the last four years. All the other front suspension consumables were sorted out in 2012 and therefore (you'd like to think) they should still have a fair bit of life in them.

To Shed, this all sounds like at least 11 months of fast and luxurious motoring to enjoy. It will be both of those because the S 60 T is a fast and luxurious car, and a very useable one too. Our Shed is not the awesome 300hp 2.5-litre R version, which summarily dealt with the 0-60 dash in five and a bit seconds. Nor is it the 250hp T5. However, it is the 195hp 2.4 petrol believed by many to be the most user-friendly of all the performance-oriented S-series Volvos.


It's certainly a solid and chunky little fellow with an excellent reliability record (Geartronic auto boxes apart, of course). There was a big recall in the mid-2000s for an overheating rad fan that could set the whole engine compartment afire, but most of the S60 problems seemed to afflict the D5 diesels. There's not that much room in the back, but who cares about that? This one comes in a rather lovely combination of blue with cream leather and the sixth number on the odometer hasn't clicked over yet.

People would have paid up to £28K for one like this in the UK back in the day. Now you can have it for a piffling £750. This Volvo a bit of a sleeper in more ways than one.

Here's the ad.

Volvo S60 - Deep Metallic Blue for sale
The car has only covered 93000 miles and has a full service history.
I have owned it for five years
It has had almost no use in the past year as i have other vehicle to drive and subsequently i have decided to sell it. It has the following features :

1 years MOT
Full service history
Full leather interior
Heated front seats
Dual zone climate control
Cruise control
Electric glass sunroof
Trip computer
Original factory carpet mat set
Factory fitted car phone (you can use your own sim - cool in a retro way)
Remote central locking with 2 keys

The car is extremely well equipped and is very comfortable to drive. The engine is incredibly smooth and everything works. The exterior paint is in good condition with no rust but please remember it is 15 years old and therefore has a few scuffs and is not perfect - the interior is also in good condition but could do with a longer valet (i have given it a quick clean). The alloy wheels are ok but could honestly do with a refurb - all four tyres have loads of tread left 6mm or more all around

There are probably some things i have forgotten - please feel free to call for more information.
Please Call or Txt me as i dont regularly check my emails - many thanks David

 

 

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djbobbins

Original Poster:

101 posts

176 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Mmmm, was looking as these not long ago as an option for a cheap smoker - but the ones I'd seen for shed money had all been to the moon and back, had body damage or just looking knackered inside (in some cases, all three of these things).

Nearly 12 months' MOT, tidyish body, decent boots and FSH - at £750 I reckon this is a bargain.

Must convince myself I don't need another car...!


2smoke

216 posts

111 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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These have fabulously comfortable seats, shame it's not an estate but still a great shed for £750

rtz62

3,369 posts

155 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Potentially a good buy, low miles and owned for 5 years so you would hope everything that needs doing has been done.
However I've bought T5's for this money or less, albeit with 120-140k recorded (but fsh) and they were all V70's
Three hings come to mind as things to be checkers;
PCV system, which iirc is a ball ache to replace so I'd let my friendly garage sort it (around £81 & 2hrs labour to fit)
ETM is another thing that goes wrong, easy to fix but I beleive needs coding in to the vehicle so an extra cost incurred
Battery alarm fault; not difficult to replace at all but throws up warnings on the dashboard
Auto gearbox - I'd want an extended test drive, from cold, as when they warm up they can flare between gear changes. A fluid and filter change 'may' fix it, but chances are it could be more expensive.
If all the above check out then this could be a good reliable barge, especially as it's not the higher powered T5

Edited by rtz62 on Friday 17th June 10:15

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I've got very similar. The gearbox experiences flare but it doesn't always occur. In the 18 months I've had the car, it doesn't seem to have deteriorated. I can see myself keeping my shed for another year.

It's quite the sleeper, too. You can drive enthusiastically when appropriate or drive like a vicar. It's no mapped 335D, mind.

The two things I am most impressed with:
-the engine: nice 5 cylinder sound
-and the hifi: bit OTT for a family car!!

R E S T E C P

660 posts

105 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I had one of these years ago and it's a lovely car! The 2.4T suits the car perfectly - very easy overtaking, smooth quiet cruising and very little lag. The geartronic box worked well but is suited more to smooth driving rather than anything sporty. It even handles really well - but there is almost zero 'feel'. It won't wallow or lean in the bends, but it might send you to sleep.
The seats are the best I've ever experienced. And as mentioned above the stereo is fantastic!

PoopahScoopah

249 posts

125 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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rtz62 said:
Potentially a good buy, low miles and owned for 5 years so you would hope everything that needs doing has been done.
However I've bought T5's for this money or less, albeit with 120-140k recorded (but fsh) and they were all V70's
Three hings come to mind as things to be checkers;
PCV system, which iirc is a ball ache to replace so I'd let my friendly garage sort it (around £81 & 2hrs labour to fit)
ETM is another thing that goes wrong, easy to fix but I beleive needs coding in to the vehicle so an extra cost incurred
Battery alarm fault; not difficult to replace at all but throws up warnings on the dashboard
Auto gearbox - I'd want an extended test drive, from cold, as when they warm up they can flare between gear changes. A fluid and filter change 'may' fix it, but chances are it could be more expensive.
If all the above check out then this could be a good reliable barge, especially as it's not the higher powered T5

Edited by rtz62 on Friday 17th June 10:15
The 2.3 T5s in both V70 and S60 guise are becoming much harder to come across these days. Yes you can find them cheap, but there's never a large number for sale at any one time so if it's what you are really after you have to be prepared to wait and travel. The later 2.4 T5s likewise are getting rarer and are still going for fairly decent money.

PCV - on top of the quoted labour the parts are going to be £150> for genuine Volvo (and they need to be genuine). I bought them all a few months ago but forget the exact price (and that was with a discount). Some people have had luck just cleaning out the PCV but some of the hoses go brittle with age and are apparently impossible to clean.

Got the battery alarm warning on my V70. Have ignored it. Warning only stays on for a few minutes and doesn't distract. I like to think nobody would want to break in to my ratty old V70 so couldn't care less about fixing it. Genuine alarm batteries are not cheap, used ones from a breaker will likely be no better. Have read you can swap them with cheaper universal batteries but can be a faff.

dlockhart

434 posts

172 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Very Scandinavian & cool

Hopefully its been sold and I wont be tempted to buy it, because I am seriously tempted.

SVX

2,182 posts

211 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Hmmm, a V/S60 R is an itch I've always wanted to scratch - it would have to be in Flash Green.

Fartgalen

6,637 posts

207 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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That's a great shed.

wiliferus

4,061 posts

198 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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My daily is this but in manual V70 flavour. Solid car. As stated, swift, but not fast, but plenty of everyday useable power.

The only problem mine has thrown is the very common ETM issue which gives a rough, hunting idle and occasional kangaroo issues. Haven't got it fixed yet as led to believe there's are company which can mend them, avoiding the recoding issue.
This shed is on 90k, and unless already replaced, it will fail in the not too distant future...

Personally, I love it. Comfy seats, bonkers stereo, and that 5 pot warble...

ETA shameless picture.



Edited by wiliferus on Friday 17th June 11:35

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I have a soft spot for these. That looks like a lot of waft for £750.

Dion20vt

252 posts

162 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Another issue that can crop up on these are the instrument cluster can fail. Rev counter, speedometer etc can fail. Its a replacement job and is quite expensive iirc. One that has been replaced will have the chrome rings around the clocks etc (as found on facelift models), this looks as though it does not.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Good Shed, I think in these, and Saabs, the LPT engines were nicer, most of the time than the High output versions, having had an 850 T5 and driven the LPT Volvo's, plus had a 9-3 LPT and a 9-3 Aero the engines just suit the car better, the T5 was a great car but very flawed, the boost was quit abrupt and even a massive flywheel and reasonably conservative mapping didnt really disguise it.

The Aero Saab was faster, but the ride was abysmal, the normal 9-3 LPT was much nicer and did the Swedish thing, where the Aero felt like it was trying to be a german sports saloon and failing, Swedish stuff is not about sporting pretensions, its about comfy ride, fantastic mid range, comfy seats, good brakes, dependebale if not exactly exciting handling and looking a bit cool despite being gawky, throw in a bit of strangeness as well.

The top of the range ones are good but if you can see past headline power outputs, big wheels and lowered suspension, the LPT versions are the pick of the bunch in my humble opinion and realistically, not that much slower.

The Swedes were ahead of the game with their LPT engines, everything pretty much has a turbo now and they arent the super high performance types, they are the fill in the middle range variety, I drove the NA Saab 9-3 back to back with the LPT, only 15 bhp in it but the NA felt like it had half the performance.

Short of a big capacity NA, for smaller engines, its the way to go.

MajorMantra

1,294 posts

112 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Good shed. There's something classless about these.

I don't know if I'd actually buy one though. I imagine they're great wafters, but are they not rather dull to drive? And probably quite thirsty for their somewhat average performance?

hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I'm currently running the 2.4 diesel version as my commuting car and it's excellent. Like driving an armchair. Manages to have wafty suspension without rolling all over the place in the corners.

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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KimJongHealthy said:
By the way...

Vehicle make VOLVO
Date of first registration 22 March 2001
CO?Emissions 239 g/km


That's band L £500 vehicle tax per year, in case anyone is wondering..
Mine's younger and I don't pay that!

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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KimJongHealthy said:
By the way...

Vehicle make VOLVO
Date of first registration 22 March 2001
CO?Emissions 239 g/km


That's band L £500 vehicle tax per year, in case anyone is wondering..
Surely it's Band K, £295 because it's registered before 2006 ?

Hoofy

76,358 posts

282 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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MajorMantra said:
Good shed. There's something classless about these.

I don't know if I'd actually buy one though. I imagine they're great wafters, but are they not rather dull to drive? And probably quite thirsty for their somewhat average performance?
Dull to drive? Well, the back end won't suddenly kick out but if you enjoy driving, then I can't see why it'd be a problem to drive.

Thirsty? Maybe - low 20s in suburban traffic.

Average performance? In-gear acceleration is good enough for a family car. 8 seconds to 60 thanks to the automatic box which is fine if you're lazy like me.

JayUK91

71 posts

162 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Toaster Pilot said:
KimJongHealthy said:
By the way...

Vehicle make VOLVO
Date of first registration 22 March 2001
CO?Emissions 239 g/km


That's band L £500 vehicle tax per year, in case anyone is wondering..
Surely it's Band K, £295 because it's registered before 2006 ?
Yes, pre-2006 prices

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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KimJongHealthy said:
By the way...

Vehicle make VOLVO
Date of first registration 22 March 2001
CO?Emissions 239 g/km


That's band L £500 vehicle tax per year, in case anyone is wondering..
Korean despot in talking out of arse shocker hehe