RE: Fiat Panda 100HP: PH Carpool

RE: Fiat Panda 100HP: PH Carpool

Monday 20th June 2016

Fiat Panda 100HP: PH Carpool

A shopping trolley that begs to be thrashed keeps this PHer smiling



Name: Matt Morgan
Car: Fiat Panda 100HP
Owned since: September 2015
Previously owned: 1989 Vauxhall Nova SR, 2001 Fiat Punto 1.2, 1989 BMW 318i, 2005 Renault Megane 1.5 DCI, 2003 Skoda Fabia 1.9 TDI vRS, 2001 Skoda Octavia vRS, 2007 BMW 320d


Why I bought it:
"I bought the Octavia as a stop gap, it served me well but with 170,000 miles under its belt it was getting a bit tired. Initially I was thinking of something cheap to run, having recently bought a motorbike I wasn't needing outright speed. I started out looking at white goods type cars, Aygo/C1 kinda thing but wanted something that was still a laugh to drive. Then I remembered the Panda - when I was a kid I was working part time on a weekend my boss had a brand new Panda 100HP. I don't know what made me like it so much but I was obsessed with the thing, I guess it's similar to my old Fabia vRS - take a normal OAP shopping car and give it a bit more poke and chunky body kit. I had looked at them in the past but for a cheap car they held their money very well. After looking around I realised they'd still held their money well, but had maybe dropped low enough I could justify a higher mile example. After checking the usual car sites daily, this one came up local for a very good price with low miles so I snapped it up!"

What I wish I'd known:
"How poor the mpg is. I was never expecting super economy but my 20-minute drive to work gives me around 32mpg normally, 40mpg if I drive like my granny. I guess partly it's because the car just begs to be given a thrashing all the time, plus the engine isn't exactly new technology. I do find, although it has a 6th gear, it still revs quite high so sitting at 60mph yields much better fuel economy than 70-80mph."


Things I love:
"The car just feels like a go-kart, with a wheel at each corner of its boxy body it's got so much grip, you can exploit all 100HP more or less all of the time and the dash-mounted six-speed 'box just adds to the experience. I read a lot about the poor ride before I bought it; personally I have no issues with it, it's very stiff and bouncy but it adds to the character of the car in my opinion. The tiny size makes parking really easy, plus having five doors means you can squeeze into spaces and have no issue getting in and out. The standard equipment is very good for the type of car and price it was new; Bluetooth head unit, full trip computer showing range/mpg/distance/time/average speed, tinted windows, leather steering wheel and gear stick and climate control all standard. Normal Pandas have a 'City' button to make the steering super light, the 100HP has a sport button which makes the throttle like a on/off switch and the steering a bit heavier; I tend to leave that on most of the time to add to the point and squirt feel. I also like that the 100HP model is fairly rare, I've only seen one other since getting mine and we shared a wave at each other like a pair of saddos. It also feels pretty well made, no rattles, nothing has fallen off, a world of difference from my old Punto."

Things I hate:
"The seats, while being slightly bolstered and sporty, are pretty poor, very little support and clearly built to a budget. My fat arse getting in and out hasn't done the driver's seat any favours either. Also, while the headunit has Bluetooth phone prep, each time you answer a call the volume is turned right down, so you have to hit the answer button then crank the volume up straightaway to hear the caller. When listening to music it sounds crap once cranked up a bit, after doing some reading the speakers are supposedly ok and a replacement head unit improves things but then I'd miss the steering wheel controls. The only other nag is the throttle can be a bit snatchy, even more so when cold, I tend to wait for a short while before putting Sport mode on."


Costs:
"As well as the mpg another issue is the tank - being only 30 litres it soon needs a top up, although it does last me two weeks on the daily commute. Insurance is affordable but tax isn't as cheap as you'd think at £180 a year, being an old engine it must pump out more emissions than newer models. Consumables are cheap as chips though and its low weight means brakes and tyres seem to last ages, even with the spirited driving. While I'm on the subject, the price of tyres and brakes makes up for the slightly thirsty motor - decent tyres can be had for £40 a corner. It does have a cambelt but it's easy to do so no hassle to DIY or a bit less labour if getting a garage to do it."

Where I've been:
"Nothing very PH-worthy yet, driving work and back mainly, a few trips to the woods with the dog and a weekly trip to the shops. I do tend to take the back roads home a quite often though, I arrive home grinning ear to ear each time. It's really not a long distance car; after a hour or so you soon start feeling the lack of support from the seats."

What's next?
"Despite the unsuitability for long journeys, me and a friend are taking it on a little day trip to Belgium. After that a exhaust is on its way, just to remove the centre silencer and try to give it a little extra noise. Longer term some coilovers are on the list, I'm just looking into fitment at the moment and maybe get on a track day. That is more or less it, perhaps a speaker upgrade later in the year."


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tribbleslayer

Original Poster:

9 posts

143 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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I agree totally. Had ours nearly two years now (Same colour to the one in the article), brilliant wee machine, great fun to drive, completely reliable throughout.......I could go on!

Bolin27

8 posts

96 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Best car I ever owned. Felt like you were going much faster than you actually were and surprisingly spacious - except for the boot. Engine sounded good, too!

wildatheart

160 posts

179 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Looks like those seats have had more than just a fat arse on them.

IrishAsal

70 posts

155 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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I'm a Panda convert. I have a 4x4 which was my first expereince of the Panda. Great car. Pretty much encapsulates what I like about cars - small, simple, some nice creativity to overcome the budget.

What I really want to do is lower the 4x4 (which has fully independent suspension), and fit an abarth engine. I browse ebay every now and then, but then I remember that I didn't get this car for speed. But... maybe I'll see how much abarth engines are going for... does anyone have a recommendation for someone who could do the engine swap?

Gareth-f4dmk

34 posts

94 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Sold mine at the weekend after 4yrs of ownership. Went to a nice guy up in Scotland. Great little motor. The Ulter sport back box looks good and isn't noisy at all. Noticed the car pulls better with it on. I went with Falken tires all round and they were great and not loads of money. Only thing that needed doing were new brakes which I'd have done had I kept it. They are holding their prices really well and if anything have crept up this last 2 years on the lower mileage ones. I sold my 08 with 37500 on the clock at a fair price which lost surprisingly little in 4yrs. Not many cars could claim the same depreciation.

Chris_P_Duck

48 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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I bought one, the same colour about two months ago...everything that has been posted about this "grin-a-minute" go kart is true...think a modern 1275 gt.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Chris_P_Duck said:
a modern 1275 gt.
Or a modern one of these:



SS7

reef67

31 posts

135 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Chris_P_Duck said:
I bought one, the same colour about two months ago...everything that has been posted about this "grin-a-minute" go kart is true...think a modern 1275 gt.
Me too, about two months ago to keep the mileage off my old Impreza...

Blue, needs a little tlc, 58k with a very loud cherry bomb on it...my ears are still ringing from a 100 mile trip earlier today, great fun in some very narrow twisties cross country on the way home and an indicated 55mpg on the motorway!!!

Got to get a new back box asap. The seats are pretty cack. I drained about 3 litres of water from the bulkhead 'cos of blocked drain holes. A wire the width of a hair has broken going to the brake fluid reservoir sensor and now she's telling me "not to proceed low brake fluid".

The joys of re entering Italian car ownership driving

sege

558 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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These have always fascinated me. I remember Evo raving about them when they came out but I've never heard anything objective about whats makes them so much fun to drive, i.e. not massively quick, ride poorly, dont really handle amazingly etc. But I've also never heard anyone say they are anything but huge fun to drive! Presumably it is just shot through with real character somehow? Thats remarkable for a modern car when 99% are either bland whiteware appliances or rely on fake synthetic character' invented by marketing dept's.
Sounds like a real hidden gem.

Mr Peel

481 posts

122 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Yes, 'hidden gem' sums these up nicely.

Mind you, mine has just started doing the 'brake fluid low, do not proceed' thing...

reef67

31 posts

135 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Mr Peel said:
Yes, 'hidden gem' sums these up nicely.

Mind you, mine has just started doing the 'brake fluid low, do not proceed' thing...
Check the wiring loom at the brake fluid reservoir, you might have to ease open the conduit and may find that one or two of the cables have snapped, looks like they chafe through eventually, I think it's a common problem. Bit of a pig to repair but do-able if you can get a heat shrink connector on it, haven't done mine yet, keep you posted...

Or you may be low on brake fluid!

Forza_Roma

75 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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That looks cool PT82, I like the new wheel colour. Mine is now gone but was the same New Orleans blue. I loved it and wouldn't rule out another as time goes on. How has yours reacted to the coilovers?

FR

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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If you want to spend less but want similar thrills then get yourself a Yaris T-Sport. Faster 0-60 too.

Al U

2,312 posts

131 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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White X6 looks like a panda.