RE: Ford S-Max: You Know You Want To

RE: Ford S-Max: You Know You Want To

Tuesday 12th July 2016

Ford S-Max: You Know You Want To

Dented and kerbed and remapped to 275hp - the ideal PH family hack!



There's been a lot of talk on PistonHeads recently, mainly from the editorial team, about family friendly performance cars. From Porsche Panamera to Ferrari GTC4 Lusso to Audi RS6, fast four-seaters (or more) appear to be PH flavour of the month.

Cloth seats too? Bonus
Cloth seats too? Bonus
Trouble is, they're all rather expensive. And what if you have the need to carry more people? Step forward the Ford S-Max. No, really, the Ford S-Max.

The Ford MPV was rather interesting at the time of its launch in 2006, taking the conventional seven-seat format and making it just a little bit cooler. It was sleeker than the average people mover, more stylish and better to drive, but not at the cost of practicality. It rightly sold very well, usually as a diesel.

But there was, for a limited time, the option to have your S-Max with the old Focus ST engine. Yep, five cylinders, 220hp and a healthy appetite for unleaded in your family bus. This was back in those care-free pre-recession days where, alongside the Ford, Vauxhall also made a 240hp Zafira VXR. Because why on earth not?

Unsurprisingly the S-Max ST (not the official name, but it sounds good) didn't sell in vast numbers, discontinued and then replaced with a more efficient 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo. But, very occasionally, one comes up for sale. Consider it a budget R63 AMG, combining many seats with plentiful performance and, presumably, quite a lot of fun too.

This S-Max 2.5 appeals more than most. Not only is it pre-dented and pre-kerbed so your family doesn't have to, but it's also more powerful. It's been remapped to 274bhp (277hp) and 280lb ft with an upgraded intercooler, sports exhaust and new air filter as well. Given it was already fairly sprightly to start with (140mph, 60 in less than eight seconds), this S-Max promises to be a right giggle.

And proof from the rolling road
And proof from the rolling road
The suspension has been modified too, with Eibach lowering springs and Koni FSD Sport dampers. According to the seller the ride is "firm but not harsh". As well as this, when those in the back tell you to calm down a bit, the front brakes now use six-pot calipers with larger 345mm discs. Excellent!

The S-Max even stacks up reasonably well on the sensible stuff. The mileage is below average, the oil is changed regularly and it even has a tow bar. Though you may not want to use it too often, as even the standard combined mpg was 30...

Yes, a tuned five-cylinder S-Max probably won't be the most affordable family car to run. On top of the fuel costs, it probably gets through front tyres fairly quickly too. But for entertainment value alone, before its reputation as a decent family car, this S-Max must be worth £5K of a PH parent's cash.


FORD S-MAX 2.5 TITANIUM
Price:
£5,250
Why you should: Scare hot hatches with a people carrier
Why you shouldn't: Scare your family with the state of it

See the original advert here

 


 

 

 

 

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Witchfinder

Original Poster:

6,250 posts

252 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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I had one of these previously and traded it in for my S8, a decision I later came to regret. Not that the S8 was bad, but the S-Max was just so very good. Large, comfortable, fun to drive, and with ample power even without a remap. Room for as much stuff as you are ever likely to want to carry (even taking a family of five on a week long camping trip).

The S8 has been sold, and I'm buying another S-Max.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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That's awesome, a work friend had one and we used to tool about in it, what a thirsty beast, the turn of pace for a car of that size was impressive though and it was supremely comfortable for long trips.

Ace!

GregrMiles

1 posts

106 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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You missed that it's also sporting the 747 throttle level style handbrake too. Just to add to the powerful bus theme

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Sold mine last week, 2 years of trouble free ownership. Loads of room inside, handles well for a large bus and has reasonable poke. Downsides are the economy, I got 28mpg over the time I owned it, and too long gearing in 3rd to 5th that hampered the straight line performance.

Personally I'd hold out for a Titanium X model, much better spec but I think that was only available with the less charismatic 2l turbo petrol?

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Koni FSD - fking st Dampers smile

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Those brakes are awesome. Not a cheap upgrade for my Mondeo though frown

Witchfinder

Original Poster:

6,250 posts

252 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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tankplanker said:
Personally I'd hold out for a Titanium X model, much better spec but I think that was only available with the less charismatic 2l turbo petrol?
Correct, that's the facelift with the bodykit. Sadly Ford had to kill off the 2.5T. All the 2.0 Ecoboost models come with Powershift gearbox as well, 200PS or 240PS. Standard kit on the facelift was pretty generous in Titanium X trim, and it looks a lot better than the pre-facelift model (IMHO).

You can also get the facelift with the more expensive 200PS 2.2 diesel, if you like sucking Satan's juice (or need the fuel economy). Still, the character of that 2.5T is very alluring.

How about this for an extra grand: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016... Full leather, sat-nav and 18" wheels.

Edited by Witchfinder on Tuesday 12th July 12:15

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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That 2.5 Low Pressure Turbo has been providing good service in all manner of cooking Volvo saloons and estates for 20 years, as the engine option you go for when you don't really want that much performance but the NASP engine is a bit weak. Fit it to a Ford and all of a sudden it's something to get a hard on over hehe

I think for my £5k I'd be looking at a V70 with the proper high pressure turbo T5 engine, unless I really needed those 7 seats.

EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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I've driven one of these, or it might have been a Galaxy with the same engine, every time you pull out to pass a repmobile there is a tell-tale puff of black smoke because salmon shirted paper salesmen do not like being overtaken by an MPV.

Turbobanana

6,258 posts

201 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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I have one of these.

In fact I have an early, base model Zetec 2.5T in what is essentially Police Pursuit car spec: big engine, no extras - it really is basic. Small alloys (very corroded), cloth interior (knackered by kids), no cruise control, sunroof or spoilers. Garages love it when you rock up with a people carrier, open the bonnet and find a Focus ST engine.

But you know what? It's a cracking steer. Based on the then-new 3rd Generation Mondeo floorpan it certainly doesn't handle like an MPV. Mine's in standard, 220BHP flavour and it goes like the clappers, pulling from no revs in any gear and if you open a window you can almost pretend you're in a Sport quattro. Almost.

Mine replaced an Octavia vRS Estate last year and is more fun to drive, only marginally less economical (late 20's mpg on a run) and roughly twice as roomy. Around town it's down to about 23mpg though. Aero seems OK as it's no worse with a roof box on. I've done 10,000 miles in a year and it's needed 2 tyres and a set of front pads. Also did the cambelt as a precaution (Ford recommend a change about once a millennium - ignore!). The rearmost seats fold into the boot floor, like a Zafira, meaning you can have 5 seats and a huge boot or 7 seats and a small one.

Would I buy another? Normally I never go back to a car I've had before, but I might make an exception with this one.

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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These and the Galaxy are the best all round MPV's, we had a diesel Galaxy MK3 and it was brilliant as a family bus.

So many people turn their nose up in favour of "posh" SUV's, wouldnt be seen dead in an MPV so buy something that isnt really as good at carting a family round, certainly in most cases a lot more expensive to buy and run, I wasnt bothered by the Airport taxi Chic image, it did 40 to the gallon most of the time, didnt break, could be used as a van and drove better than I ever could have hoped after the previous model which was no better than ok.

This could be quite amusing, it will be reasonably brisk if not mad fast.

An estate is not a better solution for families, we had an 850 T5, with three kids and a dog, them wanting to take mates places and all the crap you need for kids, the Galaxy was way better.

Why pretend, if you have small kids, your life is compromised (not over as per the lazy Clarkson comments these MPV threads always bring out) for the forseeable future, get the best tool for the job, you will be covered in puke, be sleep deprived and have to hang round at Wacky Warehouses and stuff anyway.

Im 45 now, done all that, back to proper cars now biggrin


si_xsi

1,193 posts

195 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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My brother has one, never been in it but had a little race with him when I had my Mk 5 Golf GTI, there was nothing in it, but he had to break earlier due to sheer mass of the thing.

If I had a couple of children and didn't want a fast estate or 4x4, this is the one I'd probably go for.

Hitch

6,105 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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We have one. I love it. The only thing I think could do it's job better would be a LR4 but they're about 75% more expensive spec for spec on the used car market so it is a no brainer for us as we don't need 4x4 for the family bus.

PistonBroker

2,414 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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At age 38 and with a 9yo and 6yo, needless to say I know loads of people with S-Maxs. I've always railed against the idea, not seeing the need, but I will admit to having a soft spot for the S-Max in this guise. It's the one I'd get if I was forced to. I just love the sleeper aspect of it!

I'm not sure I should admit to this in public but whilst walking the dog and daydreaming about cars, as I do, I once considered the idea of stripping one of these out and setting it up for a trackday for a laugh. Inspired by that RS-engined Yeti. I guess this one's halfway there!

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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MDMA . said:
Koni FSD - fking st Dampers smile
I've always though FSDs tread a pretty good balance between road drivability and improving handling.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Rip the rear seats out and fill with spare rubber for the track car you are towing behind you. Bend the track car, go out in the S Max. Remember to unhitch the trailer 1st

bga

8,134 posts

251 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Our SMax 2.5T has done everything asked of it. The 7 seats get used all the time, the boot is enormous (with the rear seats down), it accumulates wife & nanny scrapes without complaint. The performance is nothing to write home about, it's reasonable but there is no escaping that you are driving an MPV, Like a previous poster, I would love to move on to a Disco 4 but I'm not sure I can stomach paying the extra for a car that is just going to get used and abused.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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One thing - the article says "cloth seats: bonus", I'm not a parent (yet) but surely leather seats would be better as they are easier to clean, or am I missing a trick here?

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Axionknight said:
One thing - the article says "cloth seats: bonus", I'm not a parent (yet) but surely leather seats would be better as they are easier to clean, or am I missing a trick here?
I completely agree, cloth is more work to clean than the cheaper leathers as that sort of leather just wipes clean like vinyl. My kids drew on my light grey leather in one of my cars with a biro, came straight out with hair spray, can't say that would have worked on cloth.

However if you get milk or milk sick on the car seats regardless of type and let it soak in you are going to have a bad time.

tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th July 2016
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Crikey, did the "tile" that hit the roof bounce around for a while ?