Chris Harris Drives: the Porsche 911.2 Turbo S
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Hard to tell if he really likes it or not but worth a watch
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/...
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/...
Phooey said:
Hard to tell if he really likes it or not but worth a watch
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/...
Cheers for posting, I enjoyed that http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/...
I dont know why but the 911 Turbo, in all its guises over 40 odd years, has never really appealed to me but I have massive respect for it. I have tried to reconcile the feelings I have with various passenger rides and test drives over the years but still, I dont yearn for one like I do the GT models.
Ironically, the GT2 makes me drool
Pretty much as you'd expect?
Hugely fast, hugely secure, will be fun if you provoke it but ultimately it's a great allrounder rather than being the best Sports car.
One thing I'm keen to ask the experts on here - in the in-car shots Harris appears to sit very close to the wheel - his arms appear very bent.
Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
Hugely fast, hugely secure, will be fun if you provoke it but ultimately it's a great allrounder rather than being the best Sports car.
One thing I'm keen to ask the experts on here - in the in-car shots Harris appears to sit very close to the wheel - his arms appear very bent.
Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
sidicks said:
Pretty much as you'd expect?
Hugely fast, hugely secure, will be fun if you provoke it but ultimately it's a great allrounder rather than being the best Sports car.
One thing I'm keen to ask the experts on here - in the in-car shots Harris appears to sit very close to the wheel - his arms appear very bent.
Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
He's short but that's how race drivers tend to sit. Arms fully extended is not a good thing for car control! Hugely fast, hugely secure, will be fun if you provoke it but ultimately it's a great allrounder rather than being the best Sports car.
One thing I'm keen to ask the experts on here - in the in-car shots Harris appears to sit very close to the wheel - his arms appear very bent.
Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
Love Chris Harris' work but his being swallowed up by the TG machine means that his little videos are being struck with the disadvantages of TG. The F12tdf video posted recently, he has had the raw footage for nearly a year as he posted a little snippet of the yellow underfloor flaps deploying on his twitter ages ago, whilst this .2 Turbo launch at Kyalmi happened ages ago and Evo et al all posted their reviews of the car on this track a fair while back.
sidicks said:
One thing I'm keen to ask the experts on here - in the in-car shots Harris appears to sit very close to the wheel - his arms appear very bent.
Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
Go to a Roadshow or Sport Driving course and the Porsche instructor will tell you the perfect driving position has the seat low down in the car, with the seat base forward sufficiently that when you are pressing the brake as hard as you possibly can there is still a bend in your knee. For the seat back it should be more upright than most people have it, but not 90 degrees, the angle of the door pillar (B Pillar) next to the seat is a good guide for the right angle. Once you have the seat set in position adjust the steering wheel; as a guide when you are sat back with your shoulders in the seat and your arms outstretched over the wheel, the wheel should be level with your wrists, that way when you bring your hands down to 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock on the wheel you will have a good bend in your arms and will be in the recommended driving position.Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
Bends in the arms and legs both give you the strength to operate steering and brakes fully in any situation and protect you in the event of an accident. A straight leg on the brake can't push hard enough to operate PSM/ ABS sufficiently to provide optimum stopping in an emergency and if you do have an accident the forces will go through a straight leg resulting in a broken hip. Straight arms mean you have to pull yourself out of the seat to get decent movement on the steering wheel and result in shoulder injuries in an accident.
sidicks said:
One thing I'm keen to ask the experts on here - in the in-car shots Harris appears to sit very close to the wheel - his arms appear very bent.
Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
It's how Porsche teaches things for car control too. Seat low and far enough forward that you can comfortably rest your wrists atop the wheel. Is that his style (for drifting?), is that the recommended posture, has he got very short legs, is the angle of the camera misleading etc etc?
cheers
13m said:
It's how Porsche teaches things for car control too. Seat low and far enough forward that you can comfortably rest your wrists atop the wheel.
That's exactly what I was comparing it to - his arms seemed much more bent than I would have expected if he was following the above 'procedure'.RevsPerMinute said:
What colour would you say the car in the vid is?
its guards red.really nicely shot film, its becoming an art form all on its own right with the drone footage and all.
in summary: Turbo S not as crap as the new carrera, Turbo the better buy.
It all feels a bit 'meh' for what is, probably, the fastest car on the UK Road.
Phooey said:
Hard to tell if he really likes it or not but worth a watch
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/...
I think he's saying it's the same as every Turbo since the 930 - hugely capable but meh.http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/...
Carl_Manchester said:
its guards red.
really nicely shot film, its becoming an art form all on its own right with the drone footage and all.
in summary: Turbo S not as crap as the new carrera, Turbo the better buy.
It all feels a bit 'meh' for what is, probably, the fastest car on the UK Road.
See link below....same press car. As I say, it's Lava Orangereally nicely shot film, its becoming an art form all on its own right with the drone footage and all.
in summary: Turbo S not as crap as the new carrera, Turbo the better buy.
It all feels a bit 'meh' for what is, probably, the fastest car on the UK Road.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/content/first-drives/2...
anonymous said:
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I try to follow the principles outlined at my various Porsche driving days, certainly the buckets in the GT3 are fairly right which I like (and how i sit in my other cars) but probably seem uncomfortably so to some people who are used to a more relaxed driving position. However I do have relatively long legs, so inevitably my arms are a bit straighter (but certainly not straight) compared to Harris.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff