RE: Lexus GS F: UK Review

RE: Lexus GS F: UK Review

Saturday 6th August 2016

Lexus GS F: UK Review

Can style and eccentricity make up for the Lexus GS F's apparent lack of firepower?



If the soon to be replaced F10 BMW M5 ever had a problem it certainly wasn't a lack of muscle. Last time we drove it in 30 Jahre form it was packing 600hp from its 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8, an upgraded output carried over into the farewell Competition Edition announced recently.

From its first appearance back in 2011 the problem the M5 has faced has instead been focused on its character. Or lack of it. Ludicrous speed is all very amusing, especially delivered in a relatively understated package. But somewhere along the line the M5 forgot how to make it fun, exciting or even interesting. Enter the Lexus GS F...

By the numbers there's less a chink in the GS F's armour than a failure to strap its codpiece on before going into battle. These days 500hp is an absolute minimum; the M5's parting shot is stakes raised to 600hp to even be considered a contender. AMG will be turning up the boost on its 4.0-litre V8 in the forthcoming E63 as we speak but into this fight comes the Lexus with ... oh ... 476hp and a mere 390lb ft of torque. Worse, to access that you need to actually see the needle on the rev counter creep beyond 1,500rpm. What is the world coming to.

There's no missing it, that's for sure
There's no missing it, that's for sure
Number crunchers
With due respect to accountants, Rachel Riley and other professional number crunchers, there is more to life than digits. A car like a V8 super saloon shouldn't be bought purely on logic. At all on logic. No, to spend a vast amount of money on a thirsty, overpowered saloon car whose 0-62 time is beaten only by its speed of depreciation, there needs to be some sort of emotional hook beyond the stats. This, for all its technical competence, heritage and huge speed, is where the M5 lost the plot.

And where the GS F's eccentrically Japanese interpretation of the formula could yet succeed. Because whatever the comparative stats say this is not a slow car. Hefty kerbweight or not 476hp is a lot of power, 4.7 seconds isn't long to reach 62mph and 168mph is fast enough for extended time on the naughty step. To win in this game a super saloon has to be interesting at a third of that speed, or less.

It looks sufficiently wacky for starters. Maybe the 'pop' of the Azure blue paint in the summer sunshine helps. And its contrast against the real carbon lip spoiler and bumper trim, the grey forged wheels and orange F-branded Brembo brake calipers. The Lexus looks instantly exotic; not beautiful exactly but something a bit different, from its gaping 'spindle grille' and triple lens headlights to its diagonally stacked exhaust tips. Thankfully real this time and not bumper trim like the IS F.

It's the same inside too. Organic looking contours and stitching in the leather contrast with coolly minimalist aluminium and carbon trim, with blade-like shift paddles and a high-definition display - including a rev counter that changes according to the driving mode - nice little nods to the highly regarded LFA supercar.

A welcome return for the atmospheric V8 saloon
A welcome return for the atmospheric V8 saloon
Natural goodness
That car's manifesto of a high-revving, naturally-aspirated engine has carried through into the more mainstream Lexus performance products like the GS F and the closely related RC F coupe. For traditionalists that's rather cool. For the number crunchers out there it's pitifully outgunned compared with the turbo-enhanced Germans.

Against the Ms, AMGs and RS models the Lexus is a curious mix of Japanese high-tech and rather old-school engineering. So there are variable driving modes, a central monitor big enough to rival the flat screen in your living room, a high compression (12.3:1) V8 with titanium valves that can switch combustion cycles into a fuel-saving Atkinson mode (like a Prius), and a multi-function Torque Vectoring Differential with a special Slalom mode (not at all like a Prius). But passive dampers, a traditional torque convertor auto and rather old tech - if proper - slotted steel brakes.

For some inexplicable reason it's also got fake engine noise played over the speakers - like an M5 - despite the naturally aspirated engine sounding rather nice on its own. We know this because, unlike BMW, Lexus helpfully provides a switch to turn it off if you don't like it. Other quirks include a £69,995 bottom line price that proves exactly that, even with the carbon bits, premium nav and all the fancy trimmings you can throw at it, bar a sunroof and Mark Levinson hi-fi. Even with those added and fully optioned you're under the £74K starting price of a base M5.

On the road in the GS F, the pleasant surprises continue. Closest comparison that springs to mind is the first version of the previous E63 AMG; the one with the lovely 6.2-litre V8 before the arrival of the mentalist 5.5-litre twin turbo. It's an easy car to understand. Want more noise or speed? Depress accelerator pedal. Assuming you haven't accidentally left it in Eco mode you'll get a steady increase in speed and noise up to the point where the virtual rev counter needle passes '4', from where things start to get really interesting. Keep it spinning - those shifter paddles need Sport or Sport Plus to assert themselves - and the upper half of the rev range really shows the GS F's hand. And by this point it starts feeling properly rapid, the thrilling lunge to the redline a standout feature these days.

Really rather good out here in fact
Really rather good out here in fact
Surprise package
Pleasingly the rest of the package is well up to the job of handling it too. The steering is electrically assisted but far more feelsome than the M5's artificially weighted wheel, and once clear of some low-speed choppiness the Sachs dampers have a lovely, predictable flow about them. Those old-school brakes have a great pedal feel too, the solidity and progression in their response clearly the work of people who 'get' driving. A pity then there seems to have been a little caution in the set-up, the front keener to push on than grip and let that fancy rear diff really show what it can do. But the main worry is that by the time the GS F is really in the zone you'll be carrying some quite serious speeds, an issue with high-revving naturally-aspirated cars we all seem to have conveniently forgotten in the moaning about modern turbo motors.

Likewise the fuel consumption that, Eco mode or not, was showing in the high teens after our week at the wheel and with several hundred miles of that taken at a steady cruise-controlled motorway mooch.

You'd hope anyone buying a car with a 5.0-litre V8 would be doing so with open eyes about such matters though. And by rejecting the arms race for ever more impressive but ever less relevant horsepower figures and concentrating more on the experience the GS F is worthy of praise. The Germans are so dominant in this sector it takes some brass ones to even try it on. That Lexus does so with single-minded character and charisma is impressive, given these are not qualities we tend to associate with its Toyota parentage. Of all the players on the field it's a surprise and delight to find it here.

Videoblog here.
 


LEXUS GS F
Engine
: 4,969cc, V8
Transmission: 8-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 477@7,100rpm
Torque (lb ft): 391@4,800-5,600rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 seconds
Top speed: 168mph (limited)
Weight: 1,790kg (Lexus minimum kerbweight)
MPG: 25.2
CO2: 260g/km
Price: £69,995

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Discussion

ISO51200

Original Poster:

1,270 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Looks quite nice from the outside, but yet again a cheap interior lets it down

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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cant see past the base numbers of £70k and sub 500bhp / 4.7 - 60mph tbh

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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The interior looks a bit tacky to me, quite surprising considering the Lexus brand, I thought they would be top notch.

The exterior looks great though, imo.

Toilet Duck

1,329 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Dan, as you've driven all the cars in this sector (GS F/M5/AMG), what would you personally choose out the three and why?

ITP

2,004 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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ISO51200 said:
Looks quite nice from the outside, but yet again a cheap interior lets it down
Cheap interior? Have you just been transported from a 1975 Toyota to the present day?
You have clearly never been in a modern Lexus as the interior quality is several notches above any of the rival offerings.

Gecko1978

9,704 posts

157 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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I like this alot its different to BMW or Merc or Audi but still fast like 4.7 seconds is in reality fast an 168mph is still fast. But an its a big but its a 70K car that will not be seen as best in its class so its a left field choice. But at 70k its more expensive than most people can afford and not so expensive that people buying an RS6 with all the options or a similar E Class will consider it.

Its going to hemerage money and perhaps at the golf club be mistaken for a airport taxi...so would I buy one yes...just not with my own money.


Omar_RCF

2 posts

92 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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ISO51200 said:
Looks quite nice from the outside, but yet again a cheap interior lets it down
Don't judge till you've been in one. I have a GS-F and RC-F and prior to these I had a BMW M6 and Audi RS7. The M6 was the cheapest in quality, you can feel BMW was just throwing these out (they even have them on 0 percent finance as they need to shift models) and the RS7 was powerful in a way but too german so they was replaced with the Lexus Duo. The quality interior wise is more german than the germans. Alcantara everywhere as well as carbon fibre. Not a lot of plastic at all. You can also feel and see the quality of the stitch work within the cabin.

TNH

559 posts

147 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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ITP said:
Cheap interior? Have you just been transported from a 1975 Toyota to the present day?
You have clearly never been in a modern Lexus as the interior quality is several notches above any of the rival offerings.
I'd agree. Even if its perceived quality it looks tacky and cheap. I've never understood why people say Lexus interiors are nice places to be.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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ITP said:
Cheap interior? Have you just been transported from a 1975 Toyota to the present day?
You have clearly never been in a modern Lexus as the interior quality is several notches above any of the rival offerings.
Quite, this interior will still be serviceable long after the German competition are in the breaker's yard.

Itsallicanafford

2,765 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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..mmmh, i do like this...

I have a IS300H as a daily driver. The one thing about owning a Lexus is you simply don't see a lot of them around, which as a 3 series/ A4/ C class rival is really nice. If you got yourself an GS F, i can guarantee you would never see another one on the road. i don't know why but i kind of like the exclusivity.


RumbleOfThunder

3,554 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Not good enough I'm afraid. Sounds shallow but these cars are sold on the Top Trumps numbers and the Lexus is lacking badly. It would need to be significantly cheaper than the equivalent BM or Audi. Perhaps it would stack up better against an S6, rather than top tier super saloons.

Itsallicanafford

2,765 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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...just a quick note on interior quality, it can be a bit of a mixed bag. Some items are exceptional, which are the main contact areas. So seats (electric, memory with comfort access, air cooled or heated, great soft leather), steering wheel, gear selector etc are great. Other items not so good, some areas of the lower console and dash have a sort of shinny plastic which is very dixons circa 1980 and the Nav is abit last gen. and the mouse controller is definitely an acquired taste...

Fresh Prince

527 posts

172 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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If I had the money, I would probably go for this, purely because natural aspiration is a rarity in this type of car these days. Plus, in a curious way I think it says far more positive things about the driver being in one of these, rather than one of the more predictable German alternatives.

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Plenty grunt for the real world.

Quite likely to be easier to live with and more reliable than an M5.

However, the depreciation is really going to hurt unless you're absolutely stinking rich.

bigmuzzie

89 posts

102 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Like the sound of the engine, brakes and suspension set up. Looks very, erm Japanese on the outside, so will probably date quickly.
The interior pics do make it look a bit Toyota parts bin rather than bespoke £70k car.

Nice idea, but not for me.

greghm

440 posts

101 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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I like the sound of my engine so I just lower the windows but no need for some sound in the speakers.
(good thing it can be turned off).

Omar_RCF

2 posts

92 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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MadDog1962 said:
Plenty grunt for the real world.

Quite likely to be easier to live with and more reliable than an M5.

However, the depreciation is really going to hurt unless you're absolutely stinking rich.
Yep. I got mine for 59k with only 5k miles and the RC for 45k with 8k miles.

corcoran

536 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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It's the anti-Audi front grille I cannot stand. Audi did great with their first and second stabs at the trapezoid grille, which they've now completely ruined in the new Q7.

But the Lexus looks totally reactionary to that shape. Which annoys me.

Good to no longer see the Toyota clock inside though!

for 70K I'd hold out for something a little less.. niche. No, no thoughts as to what.

sidesauce

2,475 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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I know a lot of eyes in the west might find the design offensive but I really like this car.

urquattroGus

1,847 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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One for the shortlist.

I passengered in one at a company car day at Milbrook, it felt planted and balanced for a big car, and we then cracked an indicated 177mph on the outer bowl of milbrook. Interior had some nice alcantara and carbon.

Best day at work ever.

If anything I wish it was in a C Class/M3 size like the old ISF though, it is a big car! Also not sure what reaction I would get about the looks!

I've driven current RS6, old C63 and E55, this still felt pretty special.