RE: Moto Guzzi V7 II Stornello: PH2

RE: Moto Guzzi V7 II Stornello: PH2

Tuesday 9th August 2016

Moto Guzzi V7 II Stornello: PH2

Another week, another scrambler bike! Moto Guzzi's latest under the PH2 microscope



As PH2 reported in the recent launch review on the new V9 models, Moto Guzzi's sales are currently on the rise and it is mainly due to the V7 model range and their appeal to the new wave of riders. The historic Guzzi name on the tank is cool, air-cooling is fashionable and, let's be honest, the Italians seldom make a bad looking bike. And for 2016 Guzzi has expanded the V7 range with a machine that is certain to please a lot of London types - the Stornello.

Upswept pipe for the full scrambler look
Upswept pipe for the full scrambler look
Style exercise
According to that fountain of knowledge that is Google, a Stornello is a short Italian poem. Quite what that has to do with a motorcycle is a mystery, but that's the Italians for you. In order to create this motorised monologue, Guzzi took the V7 as a base, complete with ABS and traction control, and then stuck on a set of wire wheels, knobbly tyres, upswept pipe, a few bits of bling, the most hideous brake/gear levers known to man and a set of taller bars to create an urban Scrambler. Yes, another blooming Scrambler; however the Stornello does have the slight plus point of being a limited edition model, with only 1,000 being built. Are Guzzi likely to sell them all?

Poetry in motion
I've ridden a fair few V7 models and they are certainly charming, if slightly underpowered, bikes. Which is exactly what the Stornello feels like. While it certainly looks fantastic in the flesh, to ride it does feel somewhat basic; compared to rivals such as the Ducati Scrambler or Triumph Scramblers, in particular the new Street Twin with the Scrambler inspiration kit fitted, it feels like a machine from another era. The V7 engine certainly has an appeal due to its authentically retro sound and vibration, but 48hp from a 744cc? That's a bit limp. While the clutch action is nice and light, unlike some of its rivals the throttle response is a little too abrupt. Can that be chalked down to character? Partially, but it's certainly not the easiest of bikes to live with; that's an oversight given this is a bike generally aimed at newer riders. And then there's the handling...

The problem with Scrambler style machines is that very often manufacturers feel the need to give them off-road style tyres and wheel sizes in the name of fashion. Knobbly tyres work off-road but on a bike such as the Stornello, which is never going to venture up a muddy path in its life, they destroy their handling. I've never heard of Goldentyre tyres before but I hope I never hear of them again, as they ruin the V7's previously pretty solid handling. They may be fine for urban commuting, but show them a set of bends and they are vague and lacking in grip even in the dry. Add some water and they will be even worse. But does this really matter?

Well of course it's stylish
Well of course it's stylish
It's a style thing
Let's face facts: in the cold light of day, Moto Guzzi's V7 models will never perform as well as their rivals. But that isn't why riders buy them. Guzzis look and feel unique to ride and that's their appeal, not their performance characteristics. The Stornello isn't the fastest bike in its class, or the best handling. Its suspension is pretty poor, the brakes only adequate and the traction control and ABS also pretty basic. But the Stornello looks great, sounds right and the fact it is a Moto Guzzi is certainly appealing to a certain group of riders. Personally I'd have a Street Twin or Ducati Scrambler over it any day of the week as they are far better bikes to ride and use, but these are pretty common; the Guzzi retains a bit of exclusivity due to its smaller sales volume. The downside of this exclusivity, however, is cost: at £8,636, the Stornello is very pricey. You would have to be a real fan to justify that kind of expense on what, once all the flash styling is taken out of the equation, is ultimately a pretty basic and agricultural bike.


MOTO GUZZI V7 II STORNELLO
Engine
: 744cc V-twin, air-cooled
Power (hp): 48@6,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 44@3,250rpm
Top speed: 90mph (est)
Weight: 186kg (wet)
MPG: 55mpg (est)
Price: £8,636

 

 

 

 

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lindrup119

Original Poster:

1,228 posts

143 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Nope nope nope. Agree with the article. It might be a Guzzi but that's way too expensive. Would much rather have the Triumph if I had to have a Scrambler.

Coming soon to Dalston...

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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What the fk is that abortion of a gear lever? If I'd made that in my shed I'd be ashamed. Did they let the work experience boy loose with a bit of plate and a hacksaw?

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Nine grand? 'Goldentyres'? School kid's RMT project gear lever? Do not want.

griflet

5 posts

92 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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just a little clarification, in this case "stornello" is a name of a kind of little bird, in the old fashion of some Guzzi's bikes as galletto, cardellino, zigolo, astore and many others

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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HustleRussell said:
'Goldentyres'?
Surprisingly, they don't appear to be what the brand would suggest - AliBaba-by-the-container-what-bland-you-wan?

They appear to be a specialist Italian offroad motorsport bike tyre brand...
http://www.goldentyre.com/en/history-storia/

gareth_r

5,728 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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IIRC, stornello = starling (possibly little starling).

Edited by gareth_r on Tuesday 9th August 14:07

Harji

2,199 posts

161 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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I've just done my CBT and a gear conversion day, and I keep looking at the V7's as a bike I'd like to get, nay WANT! Then again I know very little about motorbikes, I did fall in love with a Ducati 999R at Beailieu motor museum, which probably means I'm easily succumbed to beauty and style.

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

143 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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For me it would have to be a Triumph every time.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Harji said:
I've just done my CBT and a gear conversion day, and I keep looking at the V7's as a bike I'd like to get, nay WANT! Then again I know very little about motorbikes, I did fall in love with a Ducati 999R at Beailieu motor museum, which probably means I'm easily succumbed to beauty and style.
Nothing wrong with the v7 in general. Just that particular variant is a little too style over substance to my eyes.
My brother had a breva 750 (a generation out two older than the v7, granted) and that was a good little bike.

Blackpuddin

16,523 posts

205 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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crofty1984 said:
What the fk is that abortion of a gear lever? If I'd made that in my shed I'd be ashamed. Did they let the work experience boy loose with a bit of plate and a hacksaw?
My thoughts exactly, horrid.

Blackpuddin

16,523 posts

205 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Nothing more to add, just wanted to get off 6666 posts.

MagnaJeep

309 posts

154 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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That rebranded Magneti Marelli instrument cluster is kind of retro, as it's been used from 2000 on all Ducati Monster models in a slightly different frock.

48 bhp, makes my pushrod Buell seem powerful hehe

EggsBenedict

1,770 posts

174 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Beard? tick. Sleeve Tatoo? tick. Retro pisspot lid? tick. 'Funky' scrambler bike thing? tick.

pigeonskirt

506 posts

139 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Overpriced and under powered. No thanks!

twizellb

2,774 posts

212 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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pigeonskirt said:
Overpriced and under powered. No thanks!
You forgot fking ugly!