RE: Shed of the Week: MG ZT-T

RE: Shed of the Week: MG ZT-T

Friday 19th August 2016

Shed of the Week: MG ZT-T

Rescue this vibrant MG estate from apparent use as an actual garden shed



This week's Shed seller is a gardener, and a serious one too. The two pics he's given us were presumably meant to be of his car, but in fact turned out to be very nice ones of his floribunda gloriosa in deepest Gloucestershire.

By coincidence, Mrs Shed is very proud of her voluminous leylandii hedge. She has green fingers. To help her with that, Shed has advised her to stop smoking smelly Montecristo cigars, especially if she is serious about her interesting horticultural ambition of getting some Old Man's Beard in her bush.

Returning to the matter in hand, the MG ZT-T merits your attention as a handy estate that is also a handy drive. Despite the weedy pics the Tourer is a stylish and well-built machine powered by a smooth if not overly powerful 2.5-litre V6.


Before you ask, this KV6 engine didn't suffer anywhere near as much from head gasket failure as the regular four-pot K-Series unit, which was stretched beyond its design capability when BMW stepped in to kill off the plan of using Honda lumps in bigger engined cars. The half wet, half dry 'damp' cylinder liners that were a consequence of this corporate botch-up were very prone to moving around when gung-ho mechanics poked around the top end without using the proper securing bolts. Happily, the V6 motors were designed from the off as 2.0-litre and 2.5-litre units, with wet liners properly supported by webbing.

The main worry on these sixes is the cambelt. Changing it is a long and expensive job, with three main belts to sort, plus the aux belt, water pump and pulleys. Special tools are required to position the cams. This job is meant to be carried out at 80k miles. Our Shed has done 73k miles.

Read into that what you will. If, as seems somewhat likely, the belts haven't been done, there would be very little point in paying for this work. Just drive it and hope for the best. This is contrary to best advice on ZT-T 160s, which is to look after them as well as you can. But when the asking price is only £750, best advice does have a tendency to go out of the window. Plus, the original cambelts do have an excellent reputation for longevity, so you have a better than even chance of getting plenty more miles out of this car as it stands.

That's assuming you don't get caught out by other ZT-T glitches of course. Getting into any area other than the cabin will be awkward if the boot lid lock motor is bust or the bonnet cable is snapped. Handbrakes give up too, but none of these faults are difficult to rectify.

Upper inlet manifolds were badly designed and famous for breaking. Uneven tyre wear was a reported problem on early cars. This is a 2002 model. The ZT ran from 2001 to 2005, but of course the Rover 75 on which it was almost entirely based came out in 1999, so again you should be all right.

Waterlogging of the plenum chamber can fritz out the ECU. If the cabin seems more than usually smelly it might need a new pollen filter. You need to see clear drains for the sunroof and the boot, unless you are daft enough to think the phrase 'spare wheel well' means it should also be a natural repository of water.

Another liquid you will become friendly with is petrol and, quite possibly, tears when you get the annual VED bill. An illuminated airbag light might not be quite as financially emotional an experience. It could be a failed control module or side impact sensor, but you could be lucky and find it's simply a loose underseat connector.

No major worries, then. Your cool mates may sneer, but who cares what they think? The true Shedman doesn't.

Here's the ad.

MOT until July 2017
2002 model.
73000 miles
Tow bar fitted
Kenwood Cd multi changer.
Cosmetic scratches, but good bodywork.
Clean, drives well, and well maintained.


Author
Discussion

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Never failed an MOT, and never had a whole lot of advisories. Looks like it would be a good buy to me. Even looks pretty racy in red.

rallycross

12,791 posts

237 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Thats the sort of car that might well turn out to have a full history and had loads of money spent keeping it good and they just didn't think to put the details in the ad - must be worth a call and if so £750 is a bargain - lovely engine, nice seats and looks good in red.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Pre-2006, so VED will not be quite as eye watering as Shed suggests.

STiG911

1,210 posts

167 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Gloucestershire?
But that's - in The Country...

cargit786

7 posts

98 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Loads of valuable expertise from Prof Shed. That's what many shedders really value about this column. If it had a German badge on it people would cheerfully pay much much more. The last few years of Rovers seem pretty good cars that cant decide whether to be elegant or tarty. The 75 was a good looking car, but later ones suffered vile plastic surgery on their noses and some came in horrible shouty colours. This one looks like it was painted with Joan Collins' nail varnish fortunately most are more subdued.
The cambelt issue is the shedders biggest dilemma. In the past I have always paid the big bill. What do others think. I have usually found big potential bills for other stuff (esp auto gearboxes) kill cars more frequently than belts snapping

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Nice, looks like it has lived most of its life down there in Midsomer, and being a shooting break there will have been bags of room in the back for a body or two and a quick get away.

Ideal car for the rural bounder!

Dafuq

371 posts

170 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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I lol'd at the 'old mans beard in her bush' gag, top marks. smile

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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nono
Don't do it. Not unless you're handy with the spanners and you can change the cam belt yourself.

The cam belt replacement should be done at 7 years regardless of mileage (somebody else said 6 - fair enough, that gives an extra "margin of safety"). Plastics and rubbers are continually curing from the day they are first manufactured. This means that the plasticizers in the polymers are continuously evaporating, and this is why polymers get brittle as they age. This old MG/Rover is now 15 years old. If the belt has never been changed the risk of failure in continued service is getting rather high. If you can't do this job yourself, and the cost of getting it done is actually more than the car is worth, then forget it.

(Personally I never liked these myself, but that's another matter). vomit

Dion20vt

252 posts

162 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Good shed! Family member bought a ZS V6 180bhp for £450 recently which was a bag of spanners! This seems good value! Weren't these 190bhp??

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Not even with yours.

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Dion20vt said:
Good shed! Family member bought a ZS V6 180bhp for £450 recently which was a bag of spanners! This seems good value! Weren't these 190bhp??
There were two specs of the 2.5 v6 a 160 and a 190 (well three if you include an Auto that was 180). The 190 has larger 325mm front brakes with BMW 330i calipers...

Yees I do drive a saloon version of the ZT, albeit the diesel version. As a used car they're a lot better than their price, in my opinion. I've run mine for 4 1/2 years with barely an expense and only now I'm probably spending more than the car is worth (financially) to replace the clutch and front shock aborbers.

soad

32,895 posts

176 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Dion20vt said:
Good shed! Family member bought a ZS V6 180bhp for £450 recently which was a bag of spanners! This seems good value! Weren't these 190bhp??
Two 2.5 V6 versions, 157 (160ps) and 187 (190ps) horses. Then there's a 4.6 V8 with 256 (260ps) horses aka Mustang engine.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Dion20vt said:
Good shed! Family member bought a ZS V6 180bhp for £450 recently which was a bag of spanners! This seems good value! Weren't these 190bhp??
There waa the ZT190 but this is just 160. I think it was replaced with a 1.8 turbo in 2002 or 2003

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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cargit786 said:
If it had a German badge on it people would cheerfully pay much much more.
And if it had a Ferrari or Lambo badge they'd pay even more............


kambites

67,567 posts

221 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Lovely things with a terrible image problem. I'd happily buy that if I was in need of an estate car for a while. smile

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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kambites said:
Lovely things with a terrible image problem. I'd happily buy that if I was in need of an estate car for a while. smile
I do get some stick about mine, but that said I got a lot of stick about my TVR, RS Turbo, Jeep etc.. Image is a fickle ol business. biggrin

X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Scottie - NW said:
cargit786 said:
If it had a German badge on it people would cheerfully pay much much more.
And if it had a Ferrari or Lambo badge they'd pay even more............
BUT, it doesnt, so I wont ... I never got the whole rebadged Rover OAP series of 25/45/75

blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT

J4CKO

41,560 posts

200 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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X5TUU said:
Scottie - NW said:
cargit786 said:
If it had a German badge on it people would cheerfully pay much much more.
And if it had a Ferrari or Lambo badge they'd pay even more............
BUT, it doesnt, so I wont ... I never got the whole rebadged Rover OAP series of 25/45/75

blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT
They may be many things, but bland ? really ??




rtz62

3,369 posts

155 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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My friend and I have bought and sold several of these, and have never had any mechanical problems, although VIS motors are another potential pitfall with them, and whilst not that expensive to fix are another thing that is is a cost that is now a high percentage of the actual value of a car. And that is on examples we have paid as little as £200 for, and £450 at most.
And the best bit was they were all good examples, not spotters....
I don't see the comparison with German marques, you just need to check out the poor quality of. Much of the interior trim to understand why the phrase 'premium brand' is attached to thr likes of VMW, but not the MG.
Plus, as said elsewhere, not a particularly fast car despite its 190bhp (I'd like to know if standard cars actually made, or even approached this, on rolling roads...?)
As such, I always think they look like



but go like



Edited by rtz62 on Friday 19th August 20:13

StarmistBlue400

3,029 posts

218 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Ive had a CDTI Estate and a 190 V6 saloon. Great handling cars, comfy too but not the quickest.