RE: Au revoir Renaultsport Megane: PH Blog

RE: Au revoir Renaultsport Megane: PH Blog

Sunday 28th August 2016

Au revoir Renaultsport Megane: PH Blog

PH bids farewell to the Megane by recalling some of our favourite drives (updated with another entry!)



You may just have picked up that the Renaultsport Megane III is something of an office favourite here at PH. We knew the end was coming and yesterday we had the official press release saying the final one off the production line is now on sale. A sad day indeed but there are nearly 80 currently in the classifieds ranging from less than £10K for early 250s to three times that for run-out 275s, including what looks like a very good value Trophy-R for just over £28K.

Suffice it to say, you can still have one if you want one. Below are some reasons why you might as members of the PH team recall their favourite drives in Renault's defining hot hatch...


Megane 265 Cup on the Black Mountain road
I once owned an example of the excellent, if ludicrously named, Renault Megane Renaultsport 230 F1 Team R26. I sold it for reasons I can't remember and regretted it instantly. After daydreaming about buying another my attention turned to the Megane III. I didn't think it looked as good but the seed was planted. Clearly, I needed to drive one.

I managed to secure the use of a 265 Cup for a long weekend, planned a route through Wales and set off with high expectations. The car more than lived up to them. I vividly remember driving the Black Mountain pass in the Brecon Beacons and being blown away by how composed and agile the car felt. The combination of straight line pace, precise steering and a chassis that is both a faithful companion and also playful when you wanted it to be was incredible. It was just so much fun. So much in fact that even with quite a long way to go until my overnight stop I turned around and drove the road all over again. On that day, on that road, I'm not sure there was anything I'd have swapped it for. What an amazing car... but I never did buy one, and I'm not sure why. If anyone needs me I'll be in the classifieds.
(James Drake)


Megane 275 Cup-S on road and track
If I were in the market for a hot hatch two months ago, I would have said I'd driven all the notable contenders. All but the Renaultsport Megane 275 Cup-S. As an existing Renaultsport owner in a Clio 182 Trophy, I had extremely high expectations for the Megane ahead of a shoot-out at Blyton Park against the Civic Type R.

Over breakfast Dan suggested we could work over coffee for a bit or go for a drive across Saddleworth Moor. Obviously we did the latter. Starting in the Civic, I knew the Megane had a lot to live up to after it beat the Focus RS in Wales. It matched the Megane for pace on the road, the Civic reminding me of its brilliance thanks to that incredible gearshift and sharp, responsive brakes. Jumping into the Megane my mind was made up before we even got to Blyton though.

Feeling like a grown-up version of the Clio, the playfulness and rear end adjustability really does make you laugh out loud. For me this differentiates the Megane from any other hot hatch on the market. The Civic pulled harder and the brakes didn't fade, whereas the Megane was struggling towards the end of the session. But the pops and bangs from the Akrapovic exhaust and that sensational feel and adjustability from the Ohlins-damped chassis made it an easy call. You can keep your Golf Rs, M135is and A45 AMGs - the Megane in some form or another is 100 per cent the car I'll be buying.
(Ben Lowden)


Megane 275 Trophy-R
It was December 2014, the period just before Christmas - and just after my birthday in fact - where the automotive world is quiet and there's not great deal going on. That must have been how we got hold of the Megane Trophy-R. Because who wants a car on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s in December?

The tyres didn't matter. The fact it was nearly £40K didn't matter. That I didn't drive it on the Goodwood track day didn't matter. Alright, that last bit did matter a bit. But on one dank and dark December night, the Trophy-R was magnificent. I only took it on the roads out near the office (and regret not staying out longer), but it was just sublime. It took everything that's so great about fast Meganes - the involvement, the precision, the entertainment - onto another, even more exciting plane. The body control was extraordinary, the noise from the Akrapovic exhaust addictive and the sense of occasion from being harnessed in completely fantastic. The R26.R is the original. But I love the Trophy-R even more.

Over Christmas that year friends and family were asking about the best car I'd driven in 2014 and I could say, without hesitation, that it was the stickered up, £38,000 Renault Megane. They didn't get it. Their loss...
(Matt Bird)


Megane 275 Trophy at the 'ring
I remember the launch for the 250 at a rain-soaked and very slithery Ascari where Renaultsport's tame rally driver willingly demonstrated how tail happy the new car's chassis set-up was with artful trail-braked slides into every corner. Then there was the unexpected reunion with HN62 KEK, the PH long-termer I specced but never got to drive. Capsicum Red, Cup chassis, 18-inch wheels, Recaros ... yes, I got that one right! But the best has to be driving the 275 Trophy around the 'ring, a combination of two of my favourite things in one hit.


This to me demonstrated exactly what the Megane III is all about. To make it go faster around the Nordschleife Renaultsport didn't bump up the power, there being just a slight tweak to the curves and a modest 10hp gain as a by-product. No, the extra speed came from the chassis. And the combination of the Ohlins dampers and the Michelin Cup 2 tyres just made the car even more precise, sharper still and almost delicate in its balance, as demonstrated when I got a lap beside Laurent Hurgon who set the 7:54 time in the R. His neat, elegant driving style was a perfect match for the Megane, which for all its speed remains a 'fingertips' kind of car and all about the feedback. The 275's lap time came from its ability to flow round the Nordschleife, not take it on in bare knuckle combat. For a sense of that my (rather slower) laps in the 'regular' 275 Trophy remain a stand-out memory.
(Dan Trent)


Megane 265 trip to Spa
Not counting having to hand back the keys to the collection driver, I don't think I've ever had a bad experience in a Megane Renaultsport. But the one drive that stands out in my mind was the 2012 trip out to Spa in the brand new Megane 265. It was the first car in the country, briefly, because within a few hours I had thrashed it across rural Kent, boarded the Eurotunnel and repatriated it in Northern France, destination Ardennes.

My one and only drive in the previous generation 250 had not really done it for me - it seemed a bit blunt and cumbersome - but just a few laps of the magical Spa in the 265 had shattered that opinion. Scalpel sharp, obediently adjustable and with just enough extra in the legs and lungs to keep me from rocking back and forth behind the wheel down Kemmel. The Megane was back on form.

Renaultsport always needs a bit of time to warm up and get into its stride with a new model, and the Megane III was no different in this respect. The 265 Trophy marked the turning point, the 265 brought that to a wider audience, and then the momentum kept on gathering until culminating in that spectacular Trophy-R. On second thoughts, getting to hammer that around Goodwood on a cold December day has to be my definitive Megane moment. Sorry Matt.
(Danny Milner)

 

 

 

 

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KPB1973

Original Poster:

918 posts

99 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Great article.

I don't think mine quite compares, but an RSTuning mapped 250 Cup on a very early morning run along a virtually traffic-free A157 from Wragby to Louth in Lincs.

Its the road that goes past Cadwell Park and has dips, blind crests, cambers, fast straights and S-bends galore. Its a really good workout of any performance car.

It was one of those days where everything fell into place - a dry road, dawdlers were approached at a conveniently safe overtaking place, not a cloud in the sky but the air temps were cool.

I'd driven that road hundreds of times before, and yet it felt like a totally new experience in the Megane.

Epic drive.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KPB1973 said:
Great article.

I don't think mine quite compares, but an RSTuning mapped 250 Cup on a very early morning run along a virtually traffic-free A157 from Wragby to Louth in Lincs.

Its the road that goes past Cadwell Park and has dips, blind crests, cambers, fast straights and S-bends galore. Its a really good workout of any performance car.

It was one of those days where everything fell into place - a dry road, dawdlers were approached at a conveniently safe overtaking place, not a cloud in the sky but the air temps were cool.

I'd driven that road hundreds of times before, and yet it felt like a totally new experience in the Megane.

Epic drive.
My commute road to/from work, a slice of driving heaven! So many overtaking points between Louth and Wragby (I count 22 one way, 20 the other) so dawdlers are easily dispatched.

gashead1105

560 posts

153 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Shortly after the 250 came out, Renault were punting out the cup versions of it and the clio 200 on a ridiculously cheap 2 yr PCP deal - £1999 down (999 for the clio) and £199 per month. Given that the megane cup came with cruise and a/c and a few other things that the clio had to have added back into the price, the megane was a no brainer. I only kept mine for just over a year in the end - my wife got pregnant and it became 'now or never' for a lotus exige - but my abiding memory of the thing is just how quick it was round a soaking wet Bedford on a trackday in February. I didn't think the 250 was as lively at the rear in the dry as my previous clio 182, but in the wet it was properly epic - strong engine, awesome brakes, loads of grip and I loved how the LSD hooked up exiting slower corners. I also remember letting an instructor have a go in it round Donnington shortly before I let the car go - I almost reconsidered my plans to buy said Exige after he was all over a guy in one over a couple of laps!

I may have another one as a daily when my kids are a little bigger, but it would have to be a run out version with recaro seats and ohlins and even then I'm not convinced it would easily replace my current Fiesta ST, which I adore.

paulyv

1,020 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Love the A157 having grown up in Lincolnshire - it has some wonderful changes direction and flows really well. Some elements have become like an F1 track in my mind, such as the drop down and back up on the far side of Burgh on Bain, and the dramatic 'Hainton Straight'. When visiting my Dad from London I always take the A1 all the way up to Newark, rather than departing at Peterborough so I might take take the Z4 up that road with some pace.

I do treat it with great respect however, having lost 3 young friends on that very stretch of tarmac when growing up, all due to car crashes. Watch that section near Welton after the turning for Cadwell - there's a nasty dip in the road in which you can easily lose sight of a low-slung car.

The Megane always held some interest for me - would love to try one.

Edited by paulyv on Wednesday 24th August 11:42

stuart_83

1,010 posts

101 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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KPB1973 said:
Great article.

I don't think mine quite compares, but an RSTuning mapped 250 Cup on a very early morning run along a virtually traffic-free A157 from Wragby to Louth in Lincs.

Its the road that goes past Cadwell Park and has dips, blind crests, cambers, fast straights and S-bends galore. Its a really good workout of any performance car.

It was one of those days where everything fell into place - a dry road, dawdlers were approached at a conveniently safe overtaking place, not a cloud in the sky but the air temps were cool.

I'd driven that road hundreds of times before, and yet it felt like a totally new experience in the Megane.

Epic drive.
I know that road very well as I used to travel up from the midlands to Mablethorpe frequently.

Had many 'spirited' drives on that route, but the best was definitely late one dry Friday night in my cup packed 182.


Amazing.

throttlebender

7 posts

147 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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a fantastic car that will be missed.
you just know the replacement will be less hardcore, less desirable.

stuart_83

1,010 posts

101 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I'm seriously considering getting one of the last run models.

Planning to change my car in Jan / Feb, and I keep looking at sensible 2nd hand cars (6 cyl diesels) as I cover about 15-16k a year ... but I keep coming back to the Megane.

I sold my last Cupra R for the same reason, and a lack of opportunity to use the performance, but something keeps bringing me back. After having a number of 172s / 182s I have an itch that needs scratching.

MikeGoodwin

3,339 posts

117 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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stuart_83 said:
I'm seriously considering getting one of the last run models.

Planning to change my car in Jan / Feb, and I keep looking at sensible 2nd hand cars (6 cyl diesels) as I cover about 15-16k a year ... but I keep coming back to the Megane.

I sold my last Cupra R for the same reason, and a lack of opportunity to use the performance, but something keeps bringing me back. After having a number of 172s / 182s I have an itch that needs scratching.
My megane is totally unsuited to my morning commute and it isnt enjoyable to sit there in traffic in. Its also rare I get to really explore its potential, but those rare moments make it worth it because its so fun.

Really, an automatic diesel would be a better choice, but I would die a little inside when driving it.

Alex_6n2

328 posts

199 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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stuart_83 said:
I'm seriously considering getting one of the last run models.

Planning to change my car in Jan / Feb, and I keep looking at sensible 2nd hand cars (6 cyl diesels) as I cover about 15-16k a year ... but I keep coming back to the Megane.

I sold my last Cupra R for the same reason, and a lack of opportunity to use the performance, but something keeps bringing me back. After having a number of 172s / 182s I have an itch that needs scratching.
Do it! I adored my 182 but having made the move to a 275 Cup-S, I would not look back.

Not quite as loose at the backend as the Clio, but much more front end bite so you can get it to move around if you really want to.

And that diff... shoot

stuart_83

1,010 posts

101 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Yep, I hate to say it but it'll most likely end up being ... wait for it ... a 2009 onwards e90/e92 330d or 335d auto. Currently have an Alfa GT 1.9Jtdm.

I've always wanted something with a 6 cylinder engine, and at the start of next year I'll be in the right place in life and financially to do it.

I was hoping to be working a lot closer to home, in which case a Golf R32 was going to be on the cards, but realistically now I need something that'll easily do above 30mpg on my commute, preferably around or above 35mpg on my mixed commute.

I just worry about the depreciation on a petrol rather than just the fuel costs (apart from the crazy R32 thirst).

I don't want to go and drive one either at the moment, as I know I'll just want one and my heart will take over.

MikeGoodwin

3,339 posts

117 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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stuart_83 said:
Yep, I hate to say it but it'll most likely end up being ... wait for it ... a 2009 onwards e90/e92 330d or 335d auto. Currently have an Alfa GT 1.9Jtdm.

I've always wanted something with a 6 cylinder engine, and at the start of next year I'll be in the right place in life and financially to do it.

I was hoping to be working a lot closer to home, in which case a Golf R32 was going to be on the cards, but realistically now I need something that'll easily do above 30mpg on my commute, preferably around or above 35mpg on my mixed commute.

I just worry about the depreciation on a petrol rather than just the fuel costs (apart from the crazy R32 thirst).

I don't want to go and drive one either at the moment, as I know I'll just want one and my heart will take over.
Glad im not in a position like that.

FYI the computer is reading about 20-21 mpg on mine and thats with a 15 mile each-way commute through villages and backroads. On motorway it'll return 40-42mpg.


CABC

5,576 posts

101 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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gashead1105 said:
Shortly after the 250 came out, Renault were punting out the cup versions of it and the clio 200 on a ridiculously cheap 2 yr PCP deal - £1999 down (999 for the clio) and £199 per month. Given that the megane cup came with cruise and a/c and a few other things that the clio had to have added back into the price, the megane was a no brainer. I only kept mine for just over a year in the end - my wife got pregnant and it became 'now or never' for a lotus exige - but my abiding memory of the thing is just how quick it was round a soaking wet Bedford on a trackday in February. I didn't think the 250 was as lively at the rear in the dry as my previous clio 182, but in the wet it was properly epic - strong engine, awesome brakes, loads of grip and I loved how the LSD hooked up exiting slower corners. I also remember letting an instructor have a go in it round Donnington shortly before I let the car go - I almost reconsidered my plans to buy said Exige after he was all over a guy in one over a couple of laps!

I may have another one as a daily when my kids are a little bigger, but it would have to be a run out version with recaro seats and ohlins and even then I'm not convinced it would easily replace my current Fiesta ST, which I adore.
how do compare the overall experience of the Megane to Lotus?
i'm a pretty solid rwd person, but i've hankered after some Renault experience for some time. I wouldn't buy anything like new, but wait until depreciation had reasonably bottomed out and run it as a fun fast road/track/runabout. would you go back?

stuart_83

1,010 posts

101 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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MikeGoodwin said:
FYI the computer is reading about 20-21 mpg on mine and thats with a 15 mile each-way commute through villages and backroads. On motorway it'll return 40-42mpg.
That's not too bad then ... I'll revisit in the new year when everything's in place and see if I can take a Megane out for a while to gauge general mpg. I know the performance will be fantastic.

Just have memories of my Cupra R and it's second home at the petrol station. It used to tell me it was doing 33mpg, but it was more like 27. I only used to get around 280 miles from a tank, and am currently getting over 500 with the Alfa on a similar priced fillup. Makes me think the computer was massively out.

I'm guessing a 335/330d will only do about 35-40mpg anyway, and the Alfa's only doing 42 on my commute ... the money isn't a huge concern, I just don't want to be throwing cash away if that makes sense.

Bit of man maths and justification over the next few months I think.

gashead1105

560 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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CABC said:
how do compare the overall experience of the Megane to Lotus?
i'm a pretty solid rwd person, but i've hankered after some Renault experience for some time. I wouldn't buy anything like new, but wait until depreciation had reasonably bottomed out and run it as a fun fast road/track/runabout. would you go back?
Would I go back? Well, at the moment I have both - a V6 exige and a fiesta St. Not had the fiesta on track yet but I'm fairly sure it would be great fun. Would I chop the fiesta in for a megane? Possibly - as I said originally, it would have to be the runout model with ohlins etc. Would I get rid of the exige for one? No. If I had to only run one car for a daily and half a dozen trackdays a year, I think a megane would be high on the list. But I don't! As I said above, I thought the 250 was not as much pure fun as my 182 was. Not driven a 265 or 275 but my guess from the reviews is that the fun factor returned as the iterations progressed, which isn't an uncommon theme with Renault. I would also reiterate just how fantastically good fun the fiesta st is...

Konan

1,835 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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gashead1105 said:
but my abiding memory of the thing is just how quick it was round a soaking wet Bedford on a trackday in February. I didn't think the 250 was as lively at the rear in the dry as my previous clio 182, but in the wet it was properly epic
I followed one (the 275 trophy thingy without the rear seats) for a short while around a very slippery Snetterton after it passed me. It was so greasy on track that some poor sod managed to loose the back end of an MR2 just downshifting.

Understandably, the Megane was drawing out on the straights and fast corners so I wasn't going to hang on to it for long. But, I thought, I could at least get a little ground back coming out of Murrays whilst it scrabbled it's front wheels about.

So I put my foot down just before the apex, ready to grab some track back with all 4 wheels doing their bit to shoot me out of the corner......and.....off it went again. Sodding thing wink