Skoda Octavia vRS 230 Estate: PH Fleet
Domestic chores and track days - back to business as usual for the PH Octavia vRS!
In the past few weeks alone it's swallowed 3m lengths of wood for a garden project and the roof rails readily accommodated a large piece of furniture. It's so useful I've actually got complacent, thinking all cars will swallow as much stuff. Anyone who saw me trying to pack an Octavia's worth of kit into a Golf after our recent PH VW Golf GTI Open day will know how that can trip a man up...
Enough load lugging though - this is PH and I need to talk about more exciting stuff! As previously discussed I can't help thinking the VAQ 'diff' that sets the 230 apart from the regular vRS doesn't seem to have as much impact as I'd hoped. Previous experience in other VW products suggested a much more convincing impression of a conventional locking differential and Skoda confirmed the hardware is the same, meaning it must be down to calibration. Or is it the Octavia's longer wheelbase? To the race track!
Specifically a return visit to Donington, once again courtesy of Bookatrack and once again the Skoda looking a little out of place among race cars and track day specials. But it had company this time in the form of the SEAT Leon ST Cupra that so enthralled Dan on the same day. The wet conditions were certainly ideal for putting my theory to the test and I'll be reporting back on this in more detail soon.
To offer a taste though I started in the SEAT and you could tell a difference before even exiting the pits. In the Skoda you have a choice of Eco, Normal and Sport modes for the VAQ but SEAT has its own Cupra mode over and above these. And within just a few corners the influence was obvious, understeer successfully neutralised with the front axle hooking up and pulling the nose to the apex under power.
Which left me frustrated. After all, what's the point of offering variable modes on the Skoda's front axle when even the most aggressive setting doesn't seem to do much? If the hardware is the same surely you could tweak the settings and keep this as a 'track only' mode, accepting you might get the odd tug at the wheel like you would with a mechanical diff. But let's look to the positive. If it is a 'mapping' issue hopefully somebody in the aftermarket will crack the codes and offer more aggressive VAQ settings for those who want them. I reckon it would be more effective than the more obvious temptation of more power.
Back in the real world the Octavia's heavy workload is beginning to show, although the most obvious symptom actually showed after a 10-day lay-up in the car park. So flat was the battery it wouldn't even unlock. No problem, I thought, I'll use the emergency key, open the bonnet and jump it. Only you can't access the bonnet release with the passenger door closed and the battery was so flat it wouldn't unlock. And there's no emergency keyhole on the passenger door of right-hand drive cars. We had a problem even Skoda couldn't solve, so I called the AA.
Cue further head scratching, calls to their internal helpline and no solution. Incredible when you consider how many cars there are on the road based on the same MQB platform and which could have, potentially, the same issue.
Eventually our AA man Paul came up with a plan - by using his ECU reader to power the 12V system we had just enough power to unlock the car, open the passenger door, access the bonnet release and jump it. The cause of the flattened battery is still a mystery and apart from a few sporadic warnings about seemingly unrelated system faults the car has worked as usual since. Probably worth checking out though, especially as I've got a continental road trip planned as a last hurrah before the Octavia returns to Skoda.
FACT SHEET
Car: 2016 Skoda Octavia vRS 230 Estate
Run by: James
On fleet since: April 2016
Mileage: 10,450
List price new: £29,910 (Basic list of £27,800 plus £550 for tow bar, £765 for Adaptive Cruise Control, Crew Protection Assist for £150, Heated seats for £200, Simply Clever package for £85 and Meteor Grey paint for £360)
Last month at a glance: Diff explorations, DIY and a flat battery
Previous reports:
Yes, really, a grey Skoda estate on the PH Fleet
Practical family estate into track car does go!
Two trips to Le Mans down, another one to go...
Octavia gets down to some hard graft
Anyway, back to the car... Yep it seems that the emergency lock shouldn't have been moved across to the driver's side on RHD cars (or there should be one on both doors!)
JD
Cheers,
Dan
The photo shows that the cover has been removed from the drivers door handle. So does it have a 'emergency key hole'?
If not how did Mr AA open the drivers door?
If the key hole is there and the door was opened with the key, why can't the passenger door be opened internally with the door pull and then the bonnet release then accessed?
From the photo it looks like Mr AA opened the drivers door via key lock then powered the car via the OBD2 connector.
Cheers
I've a non-vRS MK3 Octy.
I was not sure, so the drivers door has the emergency key hole? If so can't you use the internal handle to open the passenger door? Seems dangerous that your cannot open the door internally in a no power situation? - accident situation for example.
Regarding the diff, I expect there is a setting for 'strength' that can be altered by the great 'VCDS' software. The electronic 'XDS' diff on the Fabia certainly has 3 levels.
The Superb has 'interesting' throttle settings - you can change from 'Skoda' to 'Audi'!
Can't be having that Skoda feeling like a VW or Audi, lets us 'map-in' some mush wink
The photo shows that the cover has been removed from the drivers door handle. So does it have a 'emergency key hole'?
If not how did Mr AA open the drivers door?
If the key hole is there and the door was opened with the key, why can't the passenger door be opened internally with the door pull and then the bonnet release then accessed?
From the photo it looks like Mr AA opened the drivers door via key lock then powered the car via the OBD2 connector.
Cheers
So, with the driver's door open the AA man was able to power up the car enough (via the OBD2 port) for us to be able to unlock the other doors, pop the bonnet and jump the car.
In summary, if this happened to anyone at home you wouldn't be able to get the car started without access to an OBD2 reader - but could all be avoided if the passenger side door had an emergency / mechanical lock on it.
As Dan says, it seems like this is inherited from the Volkswagen mothership and common across all cars that share the platform.
JD
I just assumed the door pull had a wire connnecting it to a mechanical linkage in the door lock as per the Mk1 and all other cars I have seen.
Is this not a major safety concern? In an accident (certainly involving water) the passenger could not open the door and escape (i guess the drivers door pull also operates a switch not mech linkage).
This sounds absolutely dangerous, all the door pulls just operate electronic switches? How has this passed VOSA.
It's been hot today, maybe I am still missing something?
Cheers,
Dan
Great - I bought the family a mobile tomb
Off to eBay to look for one of those seatbelt cutters and glass breaker devices.
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