RE: Buick Reatta: PH Carpool

RE: Buick Reatta: PH Carpool

Monday 29th August 2016

Buick Reatta: PH Carpool

80s Americana and unexpected charm in an emergency Stateside purchase



Name: Ben Coleman-Gunn
Car: 1989 Buick Reatta
Owned since: March 2015
Previously owned: Audi (A4 Avant 2.8 Quattro Sport, Allroad 2.7T), BMW (M Coupe, 318i, 325i, 328i, 535d, 540i, 545i, 550i), Lotus (Elise Sport 135), Volkswagen (Golf V6 4Motion, Touareg 4.2 V8 ABT).

Why I bought it:
"I'm an ex-pat currently living in America. Whilst waiting for the resolution to an accident with an uninsured driver that wrote-off my previous car, I was trawling through Craigslist for a cheap (but interesting) runabout and found this. Knew nothing about it but it had had one 'mature' owner from new, drove really well, looked in very good shape and was just such a random car that it was an easy decision to purchase."

Touchscreen tech, 80s style!
Touchscreen tech, 80s style!
What I wish I'd known:
"Nothing. I bought it as an interesting 'disposable' car so I wouldn't have been upset if it was a clunker and wasn't expecting to keep it long anyway."

Things I loved:
"In so many ways it was utterly crap - but I loved its idiosyncrasies. The first car ever with a touchscreen display it was actually brilliant - comprehensive trip computer, memory climate control settings, even a calendar! Loved the digital display and selectable rev counter.

"The GM 3800 engine left the factory with 150 wild shire horses when new so at least 30 would have probably escaped by the time of my tenure but the unstressed nature of the motor (they regularly achieve 300,000 miles without maintenance) and high torque at low revs suited the car. For casual road driving I like to leave the car in a high gear and surf the torque. With only three gears it hardly ever changed gear to accelerate - the constant gear shuffling in modern eight- and nine-speed boxes drives me mad.

"The car was just a wafter to drive - light steering, very cosseting ride, relaxed engine. For the long straight roads here it was perfect! Despite the soft suspension and excessive weight there was surprisingly little body roll, but it was a car best suited to six tenths motoring. Research during ownership confirmed it to genuinely be a quirky car - GM's attempt to relaunch Buick, handbuilt and pitched as a Mercedes-Benz SL competitor, which explained the surprisingly decent build quality and incredibly high specification. Seems laughable in retrospect but it had its own charm.

"The interior was genuinely well finished, the huge rear parcel shelf was genuinely useful (as was the large load-through panel), the all-round visibility excellent and there was plenty of room despite the compact overall dimensions. The boot and fuel cap release were hidden behind the glovebox (which became a problem when the glovebox latch failed) but it had pop-up headlights, which makes it instantly cool.

Caramel cabin sticky in 40deg heat!
Caramel cabin sticky in 40deg heat!
"If it had RWD instead of FWD I would have genuinely considered spending some serious money on developing it. But as it was I really enjoyed my quirky slice of motoring nostalgia."

Things I hated:
"It reaches 40+ degrees here in the summer so the 26-year-old air-con struggles to cool a cabin that is pretty much 90 per cent glass. The front suspension somewhat lacked rebound damping and the Reatta achieved some notoriety by association appearing in Macklemore's DownTown music video.

"I lived in a constant state of fear that I might meet a genuine Reatta enthusiast. And it's such a shame it wasn't RWD."

Costs:
"I had the air-con completely renewed for about $600 in a vain attempt to combat the local heat. Four new tyres were $280. In total. The driver's door mechanism failed so I had to climb in and out through the passenger door for a week until I could get to a garage who fixed it with a fist thump and lube for free (seriously). I can't remember any other costs. It even did 28 (US 'short') mpg.

"From experience, US cars are really designed to better cope with the local environment (I'm in the south east) than European cars. I honestly won't buy anything other than American while I'm here. I'm grossly stereotyping, but US cars are built with wider tolerances so that things can 'bed-in', don't need much maintenance and last a long time. Trim, materials and electrics cope far better with the heat and replacement parts are designed to be more generic, lower priced and easier to fit. Chassis set-ups are more in tune with the wider, flatter and smoother roads. The high precision, high maintenance, dealer only mentality just doesn't stick here."

Where I've been:
"I used it for my 25-mile (each way) commute to the office and general pottering about."

What next?
"I planned to keep it for a couple of weeks. I only recently sold it after over a year of ownership as I'm now enjoying some top down motoring to the sound of a V8 burble with a Camaro convertible. A part of me was genuinely sad to see it go."


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[Source: Ryan Lewis, via YouTube]

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Discussion

ess

Original Poster:

791 posts

178 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I rather like the look of that.
Volvo 480 front grafted onto Mk1 MX5 rear.
Would never have thought that would have worked :-)
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Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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A car for the "never knew it existed" thread.

Looks fairly horrid but good as a temporary car.

f1nn

2,693 posts

192 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I've never seen these before.

The 480 front, MX5 rear thing is bang on!

Snubs

1,172 posts

139 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I just doesn't look in the right proportions to me, almost as if they designed the bodywork, then drew the wheels on in the wrong places.

I love the digital dashboard thumbup

Mintbird

559 posts

101 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I had a nagging suspicion the owner of this car would be a known poster on here , oh well!


Conrod Straight

39 posts

145 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Have a drink every time the word 'genuinely' is used wink

J4CKO

41,561 posts

200 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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f1nn said:
I've never seen these before.

The 480 front, MX5 rear thing is bang on!
Exactly my thoughts.

And what the owners says, American cars make most sense in America, they dont tend to translate well over here.

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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An appropriate window tint should cut down the heat and reduce the amount of work for the a/c. GM aircon never was as good as the stuff Ford was using. If you felt like a simple upgrade, you could probably swap that original engine for the later L36 "Ecotec" version (I'm guessing the block and engine mounts etc are all in the same places). That would transform the performance, but might bring a bit of torque steer with it.

It doesn't look bad at all. Sometimes it's fun to have something different.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I love it when a temporary stheap turns out to be quite enjoyable. I also like that car a lot, it comes from an interesting era for US domestic makes and their touchingly st attempts and innovating are always enjoyable.

court

1,487 posts

216 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Man I really like the look of that - plus a great excuse to watch Downtown again!

V8Matthew

2,675 posts

166 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Spurr Classics had one of these for sale @ £6.5k. It's not on their site any more so I guess it found an owner. Fun fact: the Reatta was hand-built and came with a Craftsman's Log bearing the signatures of the production supervisors, a flashlight, tire gauge, notebook and pen.

peter450

1,650 posts

233 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Looks an interesting car, I like US motors you get a lot for your money and maintence is usually fairly straight forward, definitely looking at the new UK Mustang and if the GT500 or GT350 comes to these shores my man math will be working overtime

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Odd coincidence - I was thinking about these yesterday after reading about them many years ago.

I think they're really cool, along with the Cadillac Allante. And before anyone says that that was some sort of cost cutting front wheel drive thing, it really wasn't.

alec.e

2,149 posts

124 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Absolutely LOVE the sickly green digital displays! So ugly, it's appealing.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I had never heard of that one either. So wrong on every level, but there is certainly some kind of charm about it.

However, I do feel like I really do have to leave this picture here:


LambShank

14,696 posts

189 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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My uncle, aunt and cousin in the US all had one each.

I drove one around the means streets (!) of north-west Arkansas once.

Wasn't very memorable...

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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DiscoColin said:
I do feel like I really do have to leave this picture here:

Oh yes, that's very special indeed! biggrin

samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Snubs said:
I just doesn't look in the right proportions to me, almost as if they designed the bodywork, then drew the wheels on in the wrong places.

I love the digital dashboard thumbup
Buick Reatta history

"The winning design, the work of Advanced Design Studio 2 assistant chief designer Dave McIntosh, was very attractive, but its curvaceous shape was incompatible with the E-body platform’s structural hardpoints. Making the body sides more upright helped, but made the design look a trifle bland."

Sounds like the wheel positions were imposed by the need to use an existing platform, as you say.

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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LambShank said:
My uncle, aunt and cousin in the US all had one each.

I drove one around the means streets (!) of north-west Arkansas once.

Wasn't very memorable...
In Arkansas your uncle, aunt and cousin could be the same person...

SlowV6

624 posts

139 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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DiscoColin said:
I had never heard of that one either. So wrong on every level, but there is certainly some kind of charm about it.

However, I do feel like I really do have to leave this picture here:

They've created a pram!