RE: Skoda Kodiaq live and unleashed

RE: Skoda Kodiaq live and unleashed

Friday 2nd September 2016

Skoda Kodiaq live and unleashed

Grin and bear it - Skoda's joined the SUV set



From the beaming board members and their scripted corporate platitudes to the trapeze artists swinging above, awkward interview with a sporting celebrity (1987 Tour de France winner Stephen Roche in this case) and even a specially composed song, the glitzy launch of the new Skoda Kodiaq ticked all the boxes for A Big Unveiling. Which is kind of appropriate because it's a big car, both physically and in what it represents for Skoda.


Admittedly seven-seater school-run SUVs are not a PH staple. But for those generally wary of the whole rush to tower above other road users Skoda's anti-snobbery appeal might just be enough to offset the unease. Certainly there's an unpretentious fitness for purpose at the heart of most of the brand's cars, not least the Octavia vRS we've been running on the PH Fleet for the past few months. If a sense of that car's 'does what it says on the tin' honesty can be combined with the 4x4 attributes the world seems in thrall to Skoda could be onto a winner.

There was certainly no lack of bluster at the launch event. From the mayor of the Alaskan city of Kodiak - cringingly shown rebranding itself as 'Kodiaq' in a promo film for the unveiling - to the entire Skoda board it was smiles all round. With occasional bear noises over the PA system, just to hammer the point home the new car will be as tough as its namesake. Though hopefully a little less carnivorous.


Anyway. To the car. Of all the related MQB-platformed crossovers the Kodiaq is by far the largest, being 4.7 metres overall in length. This makes it 337mm longer than a SEAT Ateca and over 200mm longer than a VW Tiguan, freeing up space for a seven-seat option and enough interior space to fulfil all your lifestyle aspirations, at least if the promo vids are anything to go by.

Engines comprise the usual TDI and TSI choices, topped by a 190hp diesel and 180hp petrol both coming with all-wheel drive and a brand-new wet clutch seven-speed DSG as standard. Lower spec versions, including a 150hp 1.4 petrol, use a variety of six-speed manuals and six- or seven-speed DSG and can be had in front- or all-wheel drive. For its size a kerbweight of just over 1,600kg for a 1.4 TSI all-wheel drive is pretty impressive. In its most potent form it'll tow up to 2,500kg, meaning it'll be well up to pulling your track day toy of choice to the circuit if you wish to apply a more PH measure of 'lifestyle'.


The styling is solid, if perhaps not quite as inspirational as claimed in the presentations at the launch. There's a nice balance between SUV swagger and typical Skoda modesty and some clever touches, some stylish like the web-like detailing in the rear lights and others functional (or 'Simply Clever' in Skoda speak) like the ice scraper in the fuel flap and neat pop-out door protectors. At the moment Skoda is pushing a Superb-like premium vibe; a spokesman said a more off-road inspired 'Outdoor' version (as offered on the Yeti) wouldn't be an impossibility further down the line.

Pricing is to be confirmed but, for comparison, the Ateca range starts at £17,990 and the Tiguan at £22,510. The equivalent versions of the key 190hp TDI engine with DSG and all-wheel drive are £29,990 and £31,760 respectively, leaving the Skoda some wriggle room to nestle between its two related stablemates. Given its extra size if you choose 'metal for the money' as your measure of value the Kodiaq will be ahead of the SEAT and VW by some margin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
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lord trumpton

7,392 posts

126 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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I'm a fan of Skoda and their honest designs. This however does look like a further step towards VW blandness; especially in white.

I'm sure there will be lots sold though

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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They had a SONG made?

Really?!

I am constantly amazed at the total guff that marketing professionals come up with. Some marketing guy pitched a campaign to Skoda / VAG that included having a song written and got paid money for doing it. A VAG guy in marketing thought that was a good idea.

What a bunch of berks.

Anyway. As you were. smile

Vee12V

1,333 posts

160 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Might as well have been a new Seat. It doesn't get duller than this.


A Scotsman

1,000 posts

199 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Let me know when they decide to stick in a 3 litre engine.

David87

6,656 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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toppstuff said:
They had a SONG made?

Really?!

I am constantly amazed at the total guff that marketing professionals come up with. Some marketing guy pitched a campaign to Skoda / VAG that included having a song written and got paid money for doing it. A VAG guy in marketing thought that was a good idea.

What a bunch of berks.

Anyway. As you were. smile
Jaguar got there first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5djymYNiqTYhehe

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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A Scotsman said:
Let me know when they decide to stick in a 3 litre engine.
Never going to happen. Volvo only offer 2.0 litre engines with the XC90 and even Range Rover offer a 2.0d in the Sport now.

Do I wish these big SUVs had 3.0 litre six cylinder engines? Of course! Is it going to happen? Nope.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Beefmeister said:
A Scotsman said:
Let me know when they decide to stick in a 3 litre engine.
Never going to happen. Volvo only offer 2.0 litre engines with the XC90 and even Range Rover offer a 2.0d in the Sport now.

Do I wish these big SUVs had 3.0 litre six cylinder engines? Of course! Is it going to happen? Nope.
Probably wouldn't fit in the engine bay anyway, don't forget it's MQB.

JohnoVR6

690 posts

212 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Normally hate it when people point out what a car looks like, but it can't just be me that sees an awful lot of Grand Cherokee in that;




dukeboy749r

2,625 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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It's a darn site better than the offering from Bentley - in terms of staying truer to their heritage.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

190 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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VAG must have thousands of design engineers on the payroll. Surely they can put them to better use than this.

Barra06

22 posts

126 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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I can't help thinking it also looks a bit like an Evoque, especially in white.

Whether that is good or bad I haven't quite decided

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Looks vaguely OK in Skoda's typical dull-but-worthy sort of way. I'm sure it will be capable, decent value and utterly unmemorable just like all their other cars.

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Yet another pointless automotive fashion statement. I see no reference to any off-road hardware nor any controls for such in the interior picture so it's just a hatchback with Haldex AWD and slightly raised suspension. I can't see why you'd buy one over a Golf R Estate or an AWD Superb.

Plus I agree all the marketing guff sounds absolutely cringeworthy.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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TurboHatchback said:
Yet another pointless automotive fashion statement. I see no reference to any off-road hardware nor any controls for such in the interior picture so it's just a hatchback with Haldex AWD and slightly raised suspension. I can't see why you'd buy one over a Golf R Estate or an AWD Superb.
All those seven seat Golf R and Skoda Superb estates out there? hehe

Personally I'd rather have an MPV if I needed seven seats, but I think I'd in a minority of not much more than one there. At least being built like a car rather than an off-roader it shouldn't be too monumentally heavy.

Edited by kambites on Friday 2nd September 10:56

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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The front seems too big for the back, if that makes sense.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Also:

"Skoda's joined the SUV set"

What about the Yeti?



The 4x4 is a seriously capable machine.

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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I'm inclined to agree with the lack of excitement . . . but the current family motor is a Tiguan that will go back in just over a year and Mrs T has suggested she wants 7 seats in its replacement for the odd occasion we want to carry Grandparents.

It's nice to know that the logical replacement of a Disco Sport won't be my only option, especially as I'd prefer to stick with VAG myself. Though I gather there'll be a new Tig with 7 seats by then.

What has my life become?!

Twoshoe

854 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Beefmeister said:
Also:

"Skoda's joined the SUV set"

What about the Yeti?



The 4x4 is a seriously capable machine.
The Yeti at least is a slightly interesting design with a few distinctive styling touches. This new lump thing is just dull dull dull (but, as others have said, will probably sell well).

Bradgate

2,823 posts

147 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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These things are going to sell like umbrellas in a monsoon, sadly.

This product is exactly what the market wants, and the brand is now ready for it. Ford, Vauxhall, Hyundai & Kia will take a hammering from this car.


SPMX5

70 posts

140 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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"looks the same"
"something about an appliance"
"marketeers falala"
"not as bad as the bentley whatsit"
"brand values"

VAG group post bingo anyone