RE: Nissan 370Z: PH Carpool

RE: Nissan 370Z: PH Carpool

Monday 5th September 2016

Nissan 370Z: PH Carpool

Lairy looks, lairy noise and a pleasing old-school vibe for this week's PHer ride



Name: Andrew (PH name - El Shafto)
Car: Nissan 370Z
Owned since: Jan 2016
Previously owned: Mazda RX8 PZ, Audi A4 2.0 Petrol, Volvo S40 1.6 Petrol


Why I bought it:
"I've become the kind of guy that starts planning the next car as soon as I've bought the last one. I have to work towards something. The next savings target and the amount I need before I can upgrade. So as soon as I'd bought the Rex in 2014, I started pondering the next purchase. It had to be faster than the RX8. It had to have more grunt (aka more torque). And above all else, it had to be lairy and immature - after all, why do we put ourselves through the financial roller-coaster of owning 'proper cars' if not to live out our childhood dreams in a stupid looking bright yellow Nissan?

"In the end, this purchase happened by complete chance. I had decided to upgrade. I had a private buyer for the Rex (RIP), and I was on the lookout for my next car. £20K was the budget, so after much deliberation between an Evo X and a Cayman S, despite temptation, the servicing costs and relative leggy-ness of a £20K Cayman concerned me. So I set out to hunt for a decent Evo X, which apparently is harder than it sounds. Every 300 or 330 Evo that came onto the market in reasonable condition got snapped up instantly. Every time I'd ring to book a viewing and test drive, I'd be told it was already sold with deposit taken. So I continue scouring the websites of various Japanese performance dealers, and low and behold up pops this 370Z. A relatively old '09 plate, but with only 15K miles on the clock, and one owner from new where it had been garaged and used as a weekend toy. I don't know if it was the supposed immaculate condition and easy life this car has had, or whether it was the bright yellow paint and rip-off Porsche-esque decals on the side that hooked me in, but I was intrigued. One test drive later and the rest is history, as they say."


What I wish I'd known:
"Just how skittish it is over a bad road surface. This is one car that cannot operate over a poorly surfaced B-road, which in the UK, is a real daily occurrence. Traction is a real problem over bumps and/or minor pot holes, but to be fair the suspension does a reasonable job of keeping the ride comfortable."

Things I love:
"I'm still in the honeymoon period so this list is extensive. First and foremost, it's the sense of occasion from this particular set up. The exhaust has been completely replaced along with a set of high-flow cats, which combined with a new air filter makes for a raucous growl on start up and a real muscle car-esque burble at low speeds around town. It just makes me smile every time I pull away, and more importantly it addresses the biggest complaint I hear from 370Z owners which is that the stock exhaust is too quiet and too monotonous.

"The character of this car really appeals to me. It ticks so many of the boxes - it's effectively a Japanese take on a muscle car. Relatively cheap and affordable for the working class everyman; A big displacement NA engine up front, rear wheel drive, and manual gearbox. It even delivers its performance in an 'American' way. Lots of low down torque allows it to be driven very lazily under normal conditions. You can cruise easily in fourth gear at 30mph where it can make swift progress without revving it all the way out. There's no dynamic driving modes, no adjustable settings, and no messing about. It feels decidedly old-school (which is either a good or a bad thing, depending on who you are). In short, it's a thug. And that is a very good thing indeed."


Things I hate:
"On the flipside, it doesn't reward you for really pushing it and trying to reach its limits. It's very decidedly a GT car, not a proper sports car. This was a big shock at first as I expected the opposite, and coming from an RX8 PZ, I was used to a car that felt like it wanted to be pushed and enjoyed operating at ten tenths, as opposed to a car that just wanted to cruise. Which can become frustrating at times, because in juxtaposition to this lazy GT character, the engine is still designed to deliver peak power and torque at the top of the rev range (as you'd expect from an NA lump like that), but it just doesn't feel like the car ever wants you to access it. More often than not you find yourself shifting at about 5,000 revs, which begs the question - why set the engine up with a 7K red line?

"This certainly doesn't ruin the car. I am unashamedly in love with it... it's more of a curious observation around design and set up."

Costs:
"All as expected for a car of this type thus far. £80 to fill up a tank of premium petrol gets you between 300 and 350 miles in return. The tax is £500 per year, and the insurance is £950 for a late 20s gent living in south east London with five years no claims. Haven't had to service it yet, but I've looked into it and it seems to be no more than £220 from a main Nissan dealer."


Where I've been:
"The very first trip was an especially long one. I traveled all the way up to Mansfield to pick it up, and had a 300-mile trip back down to London. Since then there's been some decent road trips too, including a week long drive across the south coast stopping at Brighton, Southampton, Bournemouth and Poole. I'm fortunate enough not to use the car for work or commuting, although I have also on one occasion had to attend a client meeting in this bright yellow beauty - suffice it to say it's a conversation starter in the white collar world of Financial Services."

What's next?
"I'm not a big time tuner or someone who tinkers endlessly. The set up this car has at the moment is enough to keep me happy, and it's tough to extract more power from the 370 without forced induction. I'm planning to keep this until mid/late 2017 and then move on to the next one (finances pending). As previously mentioned I have a crippling addiction to the classifieds and have already narrowed down the shortlist for the next upgrade. Really want to get something outlandish next and sub £40K Audi R8s, Nissan GT-Rs and Maserati Granturismos are just too tempting to say no to. Saving has already begun, just need to get a second job to pay for the servicing costs now..."


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Discussion

JackReacher

Original Poster:

2,127 posts

215 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Your 'hates' pretty much sum up my experience with a 350z, a very good car until you want to push it on a good B road, it doesn't deliver as a sports car.

A gen 2 cayman will deliver this but at additional purchase and maintenance costs. Unfortunately it also doesn't have the rarity of a Zed which I really liked.

peter450

1,650 posts

233 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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The 370 is pretty rare, it sold no were near as well as the 350z which is IMO the much prettier car. But it is a very straightforward machine and I expect the running costs will be a lot less than a Cayman. I don't think you can really go to far wrong with one of these.

Adam190

121 posts

148 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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An UpRev will sort out the asthmatic issues of the 70 out above 5k and as far as choppy B road driving goes I can only suggest the basics of full 4 wheel alignment and some decent tyres!

I did 35k in mine and loved every minute. It will be missed!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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I was always astounded these cars didn't achieve better sales.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Adam190 said:
An UpRev will sort out the asthmatic issues of the 70 out above 5k and as far as choppy B road driving goes I can only suggest the basics of full 4 wheel alignment and some decent tyres!

I did 35k in mine and loved every minute. It will be missed!
+1 Nothing wrong with the handling on mine with decent tyres on it (MPSS) and decent arb's help

pirategaz

51 posts

174 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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I couldnt agree more!! Its like it was written by me.... I had a 370Z and loved every second of it! My only complaint was as you mentioned the exhaust note just wasnt quite there, when you started it up you wanted the world to take note and it just didnt happen!
While I had it I was looking at the exact cars your thinking of now you sure youve not been reading my mind?
Loved the car are really miss it!

LP670

822 posts

126 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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im tempted by a new one of these next year when the standard tax rate comes in, that and the £5k discounts available over list price! icing on the cake would be a 0% pcp deal from nissan.

nottyash

4,670 posts

195 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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I never really had any traction problems in mine.
I agree with the OP about it being a GT car as oppose to an out and out racer, but the noise of the road and stone chips rattling around the unsoundproofed arches gives mixed messages.

Mine was a standard 60 plate with the GT pack, and it was a bit of a pain with speed bumps. Rear visability is poor, the camera helps.
It can be retrofitted on earlier cars easy enough. The kit is about £90 on Nissansportz website.
Something to bear in mind is the late 2010 cars had the hard drive and touch screen sat nav.

sebhaque

6,404 posts

181 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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I loved my old 370Z. I did pretty much the same modifications as the OP - high-flow cats, an air intake and a catback exhaust (all Stillen systems). Transformed the car, and the UpRev made it even better. Quite a few of my friends were a bit unsure about my choice of buying a 370Z but every single one of them fell in love with it after I'd taken them for a spin. I do miss that car.


Mr Tidy

22,327 posts

127 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Insightful post OP - thanks!

Back in 2014 I had a bit of cash from taking a pension early and had a 350/370Z on my short-list, but ended up taking a different Z route - Z4 Coupe!

Less power but also less weight and still a grunty N/A 6 cylinder petrol engine with a manual gearbox.

I love it! cloud9

I may be wrong, but I think the £500 a year RFL didn't exactly help sales of a few cars' sales - 350/370Zs, RX8s, Hyundai V6 Coupes, etc. (Z4C is in Band K so a relative bargain at £295 a year)!

Hope you are still loving it OP - that is certainly a brave colour scheme!laugh


Roma101

838 posts

147 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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I saw a Nismo version of one of these on the M1 yesterday. It looked awesome.

My father owned three 350zs - one of each facelift version. It sounds like similar comments can be levied at the 350 and the 370 - real sense of occasion, lovely GT car, generally pretty good, but not for 10/10ths driving on B roads though.

MrGeoff

650 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Owned one of these from new, it was a super comfy car to drive, well priced, really a great tourer with the added bonus of being a rare sight on the road. However, for me, the main drawback was that it just wasn't sharp enough when it was pushed hard. I'm sure with some work it could have been honed a bit better. That said though I applaud Nissan for creating it in a generation of small turbo engines, it's an old school car which in some respects is very true to it's roots in the original 240 and 260.

El Shafto

133 posts

145 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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Lot of comments about the quality of the tyres - keen to get some recommendations on what other owners are using?

Got Bridgestone Potenza's on mine atm, but have considered switching them out to improve the traction issue on choppy roads.

Anyone care to wade in?

El Shafto

133 posts

145 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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pirategaz said:
I couldnt agree more!! Its like it was written by me.... I had a 370Z and loved every second of it! My only complaint was as you mentioned the exhaust note just wasnt quite there, when you started it up you wanted the world to take note and it just didnt happen!
While I had it I was looking at the exact cars your thinking of now you sure youve not been reading my mind?
Loved the car are really miss it!
What did you pick up next, out of interest? And how did it compare.... really torn on that decision to be honest.

And the colour scheme combined with the exhaust certainly fixed the 'problem' of people not taking note. In fact, most people have no idea what it is and are surprised that it's a Nissan when I tell them (unless they're car people).

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th September 2016
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El Shafto said:
Lot of comments about the quality of the tyres - keen to get some recommendations on what other owners are using?

Got Bridgestone Potenza's on mine atm, but have considered switching them out to improve the traction issue on choppy roads.

Anyone care to wade in?
Michelin MPSS are the tyre of choice for the 370z, they make a huge difference but are a summer tyre really, potenzas were factory fit and hopeless imo, i nearly crashed my first 370z when it was on potenzas BUT some sizes of MPSS are being phased out and can be difficult to source, so if you are thinking of changing think fast or you might not be able to get them

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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sebhaque said:
I loved my old 370Z. I did pretty much the same modifications as the OP - high-flow cats, an air intake and a catback exhaust (all Stillen systems). Transformed the car, and the UpRev made it even better.
What do you mean by "uprev"?
Thanks.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Scottie - NW said:
What do you mean by "uprev"?
Thanks.
Uprev = Remap

There are two companies that provide custom tuning software for the 370z , Osiris Uprev and Ecutek RaceRom

You can add various features as per this link http://h-dev.co.uk/350z-and-370z-uprev-remapping/?...

A remap on the 370z usually yields around 10hp and 8ft lbs but it sharpens the throttle response as they are dulled down from the factory and the car usually feels considerably better to drive

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Not sure I would describe it as a muscle car.

The compact V6 just isn't large or powerful enough.

El Shafto

133 posts

145 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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skyrover said:
Not sure I would describe it as a muscle car.

The compact V6 just isn't large or powerful enough.
I did caveat that comment with 'a Japanese take on a muscle car'. I more meant the way the performance is delivered in a back to basics, thuggish kind of way, and the fact that it's meant to be cheap and affordable when compared to other performance marques.

It also shares similar power output and displacement as entry level V6 Mustangs and Camaros etc...

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Fair enough smile