Servicing Intervals

Servicing Intervals

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jonby

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5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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I have my 4th year service coming up next month (my first service was after 9 months as I'd covered 10k miles, but the ones after that have been at 12 monthly intervals as I've done less than 10k p.a. since - my car has done approx. 25k miles now)

Car qualifies for the fixed service price plan, which means £761 for a V12

I don't need pollen and air filters, which are recommended every 20k miles, as they were done 2 services ago at c. 18k miles

However it's been suggested I need gearbox oil change (£125) and differential oil change (£75). Thoughts ? Knowledge ? Official recommendations ?

The plan on the website doesn't seem to cater for manual gearbox V12s, possibly because so few will qualify (post November 2012 cars only)

The website mentions automatic differential oil at 40k miles, but presumably that means cars with an automatic gearbox ? or am I misunderstanding ?

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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My car is 2009, so not in the fixed price servicing scheme.

When I queried why I had to pay so much more, the dealer told me the fixed price arrangement, had add-on items of work which were extra cost.

Whether that was just his attempt to make me feel better, I do not know.







jonby

Original Poster:

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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It seems there was a small mistake - speedo was still in kms and they thought I'd done 40k miles

Assume at 40k miles, certain gearbox oils need changing

Jon - the fixed price servicing costs are not bad IMO, for a car in this bracket, albeit as is very well documented on here, you can supply your own oil and make a decent saving. But yes, your dealer is correct, there are loads of numbered notes next to the fixed prices advising of additional items than need replacing, at additional cost, every x miles

IIRC, DB11 was to have a servicing plan included - was it 5 yrs ? To work a little like the Ferrari 7 year plan. I understand those plans really are fully inclusive of all fluids/filters/etc so you just need to pay for consumables like tyres & brake pads/discs

Did that servicing plan get launched with DB11 ? If so, that's probably the best part of £5k of costs over 5 years. Of course it keeps you going back to the official dealer so more chance you will use them for the likes of tyres, MOT, pads, etc rather than going to an indi.

These things are always (to my knowledge) transferable with the cars

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

157 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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The auto trans needs diff oil change, yes, which is separate to the actual auto trans fluid change. Your gearbox needs its actual gear oil renewing, there is about a litre and a half more 6 speed manual trans oil required than auto trans diff oil. Both have a simple drain plug and fill plug, meaning that all you should pay extra is the additional price of oil @ circa £30 by my reckoning - but a straightforward substitute seems fine to me in grand scheme of things.

I'm not too sure about the prescribed consumable approach you mention though. For instance if air filters are not on list the wheel arch liners are unlikely to be removed to gain access to air box to do the inspection side of service and examine state of air filters regardless of changing them. That is essential to understand breather circuit status. A prescribed approach is not always the best care approach imho and episodes like CraigV12V failure often have route cause waiting to be picked up in a careful inspection, which doesn't always happen if the service is just a prescribed list of parts.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Jonby, my air filters after 6000 miles in 12m - bit aghast really as they are a '2 year' item and I have done no ploughing or field work with the car!





The pragmatic, condition based engineering approach as practiced by certain indies may be best. Especially those that bring you dirty filters to see rather than copies of GQ wink

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Ken Figenus said:
Jonby, my air filters after 6000 miles in 12m - bit aghast really as they are a '2 year' item and I have done no ploughing or field work with the car!

They certainly look grubby, and also appear to contain particles.

Could it be possible, that they were not actually changed last time, even though invoiced?




telum01

987 posts

115 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Not surprising to see that much built up in them so quickly. It's a fairly direct route from the intake inlet at the front of the car to the airboxes, so a lot of debris gets into them and the filters can collect quite a bit!

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Jon39 said:

They certainly look grubby, and also appear to contain particles.

Could it be possible, that they were not actually changed last time, even though invoiced?
That was the initial thought mate but the date stamp on the filter proves this wasn't possible as the date is after 2014 service so they must have been changed in 2015.

DAVIDOXE

494 posts

114 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Just had my 09 V12V serviced at Aston Bristol and they did it for £751 same as the fixed price for newer cars.
Very Happy with that.

bentley01

1,002 posts

136 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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DAVIDOXE said:
Just had my 09 V12V serviced at Aston Bristol and they did it for £751 same as the fixed price for newer cars.
Very Happy with that.
Which service was due David?

DAVIDOXE

494 posts

114 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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bentley01 said:
Which service was due David?
It was the 7th year service.

GingerMunky

1,166 posts

257 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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DAVIDOXE said:
It was the 7th year service.
Did you get a courtesy car too?

DAVIDOXE

494 posts

114 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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GingerMunky said:
Did you get a courtesy car too?
No but i did get free collection and delivery!

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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bentley01 said:
DAVIDOXE said:
Just had my 09 V12V serviced at Aston Bristol and they did it for £751 same as the fixed price for newer cars.
Very Happy with that.
Which service was due David?
Same for me with my 11 V12V.

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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It was only better value as he already had fresh gearbox oil - free with every new box! wink

Seriously that isn't too bad with the collection and delivery.