RE: Mini JCW Clubman confirmed

RE: Mini JCW Clubman confirmed

Thursday 29th September 2016

Mini JCW Clubman - Paris 2016

Four-wheel drive, more power, more doors and generally more Mini for Clubman buyers in a hurry



We ran a Mini JCW hatch as a long-termer last year and, it has to be said, from the automatic gearbox to the inert run-flat tyres and their dulling effect on the handling, it wasn't quite the inspirational premium hot hatch we were looking for. That has been addressed to an extent with the JCW Challenge track special we put against the Golf GTI Clubsport S the other day, albeit at a price and some degree of exclusivity. For this new JCW Clubman, making its debut at the Paris show, the character of the standard JCW might actually be a better fit. Indeed, combined with the additional practicality of the Clubman package, four-wheel drive and, arguably, better overall proportions, Mini might actually have something that lives up to its claim of "a unique high-performance option in the C-segment". 

Heard the one about the fast, 4WD Mini estate?
Heard the one about the fast, 4WD Mini estate?
Hang on though, C-segment? Doesn't that mean it's up against things like the Golf R estate? The Golf starts at £34,455 against the Mini's £29,345 but that narrows if you go for the £30,945 Steptronic automatic on the JCW, the R coming with DSG as standard. There's also the small matter of the Golf's 300hp and 280lb ft against the Mini's 231hp and 258lb ft, this equating to a 6.3-second 0-62mph time against the R's 5.1. If you're shopping for fast small estates at this money you can't ignore the SEAT Leon ST that so impressed us lately either - OK, it's not four-wheel drive, but 290hp is going to show the Mini a clean set of heels and you have to wonder why its 2.0-litre engine appears so out-gunned against the equivalent motors from VW and SEAT. 

Given all that what might tempt you to choose the JCW? Don't expect it to be cheap if you go down this route but specced with that eight-speed Steptronic auto, optional adaptive dampers and suitably bedecked in a few trim upgrades, you could end up with a sophisticated and rather classy small estate car that retains the character and style Mini buyers love so much. That really is something a bit different in this class and if we found some of the styling quirks inside and out rather overwrought there's no denying there's character aplenty. And substance to back it up too, the JCW getting Brembo brake calipers, the three-mode driver settings, ESP/brake controlled simulations of a front limited-slip differential and 'Performance Control' torque vectoring by braking to "assist agile turn-in when taking bends at speed". 

Four-wheel drive and six doors too!
Four-wheel drive and six doors too!
Fabric trimmed sports seats are standard, as is a bunch of JCW-branded trim, while Mini expects 80 per cent of buyers to chuck another £2,000 at the bottom line with the Chili pack. This adds the choice of "any upholstery from the range", 19-inch wheels over the standard 18s and - try to maintain your excitement - the "storage compartment pack". From additional features for the standard LED lights to a glass panoramic roof and rear doors that open with a foot waved under the rear bumper there are, inevitably, plenty of ways to add further to the price before you even hit the personalisation options. Still, if nothing else, it will most definitely have the most impressive door count in the segment as standard. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Discussion

MIDangerfield

Original Poster:

46 posts

104 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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It's something a bit different but the price is a bit too rich for me considering you'll get more space and power from Seat VW etc for a little more. I suppose you could argue nobody is buying it for practicality but the looks ain't great either. Blimey those rear light clusters are hideous!

73RS

71 posts

208 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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A JCW Clubman! I mean who on earth.......? As cynical as the Bentley, and only slightly less ugly. What is this, cr@p new car day??

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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In another thread somebody claims the Bentayga Diesel has jumped the automotive shark...............

leglessAlex

5,446 posts

141 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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It looks weird. It's like the car is too long, the proportions are all skewed.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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The clubman was on my short list for my next car - I like the better balanced looks over the MINI & MINI 5 door but it manages to be more mature and keep the good bits of the MINI - but for its footprint its tiny inside (Polo size for Golf money) and only MINI could try to call this an estate.

£29k before options and with only 231bhp seems rather expensive and out gunned.

Bladedancer

1,269 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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How did that joke go? "Oh another Mini. About time, we haven't had a new model for over 5 minutes".

Chris Y

221 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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More utter cr*p from BMW.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I'm sure they are making a ton of money and don't care what I think but I really don't like what BMW have done with the Mini brand. I'm glad the name still exists but I dislike what it's become.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Chris Y said:
More utter cr*p from BMW.
yes

jeremyc

23,453 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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They still haven't sorted the badging on the rear either. I mean, who puts four letters on one door and three on the other. nono

/OCD


BlueHave

4,645 posts

108 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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No idea who buys these, the styling is awful and you only need to read the reliability stats to make you run a mile.

sidesauce

2,475 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Chris Y said:
More utter cr*p from money made by BMW for their shareholders.
EFA.

MINI registrations in the UK were 47,076 in 2015. That puts them (for the first time) among the top 10 selling car brands in the UK last year; in fact 2015 ranks as BMW's best worldwide sales year ever for the MINI brand - a 12% increase from 2014 for a worldwide sales total of 338,466.

Utter crap? In your opinion maybe, but as the facts stand they're making bank and that's the only thing that matters.

mattwhite709

328 posts

99 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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I hated the mk1 Clubman when it came out mainly because of the weird door arrangement. I have liked the mk 2 since launch, if I was on the market for fast estate it's one I would certainly look at.

munsoon

3 posts

100 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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JCW have lost it! They have been concentrating too much on the cool stuff but their customers have moved on! The demand in that bracket is for more power and performance and most of their competitors are way ahead in that department. I was conned back in 2012 having got the first few JCW in Australia and was bitterly disappointed in the new JCW in 2014! My advise for any one in that market is to try the A45 or M2.

Löyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I'm a massive fan of Minis, despite never having owned one, but what is going on with JCW at the moment? If this turns out to be anything less than dazzlingly dynamic they'll have let themselved down. They once had a reputation as a tuning wing that would inevitably take a great performance car and harden it's best attributes to the point wherte it was an amazing performance car. Now, you have to buy a special edition 'challenge' model just to get the car the JCW should have always been. I'm hoping this is not the start of JCW dumbing down.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Considering just how saturated the hot hatch market is these days that seems like an awful lot of cash for what appears to be very little car, for in and about that money you're able to look at brands like Ford, Honda, BMW, SEAT and VW..... You'd have to be crackers to buy this over anything along those lines in my opinion.

Plus it's about as ugly as I am, which is sad indeed.

bluemason

1,070 posts

123 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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jeremyc said:
They still haven't sorted the badging on the rear either. I mean, who puts four letters on one door and three on the other. nono

/OCD

A good example in what is wrong with modern car design

ehonda

1,483 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Mrs Ehonda has a new shape Cooper S clubman, it's fairly entertaining to drive, has a nice interior, enough room for 2 adults and 2 kids and has loads of toys.
It does the 'quirky' mini thing pretty well, but I think other manufacturers are catching up there, e.g. Kia and the Soul.
She likes it, I like driving it, has sufficient grunt, sounds OK, has a nice gearchange, but does have a horrible dead spot around centre on the steering.

I think it looks miles better than the previous version, but it might date just as badly...

jwilliamsm3

286 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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My old girl wanted a mini, so I said she could get a JCW. then she sees a clubman and wanted that instead, but there was no JCW version then.
Luckily this has been released and I've managed a compromise so she's going to order one as soon as she can smile

kayzee

2,804 posts

181 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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That is one hideous machine frown it seems every version of MINI that comes out is worse than the previous one!