RE: Paris 2016 - PH Liveblog

RE: Paris 2016 - PH Liveblog

Friday 30th September 2016

Paris 2016 - PH Liveblog

Ever wondered what cheese, watches, The Beatles and Land Rover have in common? Wonder no longer!



With the news hub serving up all the PH-relevant stories from Paris over the coming days, this liveblog aims to bring a more personal air to proceedings. Concepts we like but probably shouldn't, interesting quips from management, the weird tuner stuff, that sort of thing. It will be updated regularly, so keep checking back!

There are of course a host of ways to stay in touch via social media too. We're onFacebook and Twitter, plus Instagram @pistonheads_speedmatters. If you wish to follow the lads on their personal accounts you can do so through @Trent_Danand@PHMattB; we'll be using the hashtag #PHParis2016.



Land Rover event, Thursday night
Consider my eyes opened to the world of expensive watches, one I realise excites a lot of people but had thus far entirely passed me by. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an overnight aficionado or woken up with a new burning passion for blingy timepieces. But I had underestimated quite how much passion the business inspires, not least in one of its figureheads, president of the LVMH watch division that owns Tag Heuer, Hublot and Zenith Jean-Claude Biver.

You want cheese? You got cheese!
You want cheese? You got cheese!
The context was a new partnership between Zenith and Range Rover, the overlap between the worlds of luxury cars and flash watches of course well established. And as we were bussed out to the launch event there was a bit of grumbling from the assembled hacks who, after a day at the show, weren't especially in the mood for 'lifestyle' shenanigans. Didn't start well either, an art piece involving some graffiti decorated Range Rover panels introduced to us with much drama and described by the artist responsible - a chap called Richard Orlinski - as symbolic of 'double eternity'. And then we encountered Mr Biver. And things took a turn for the weird.

Flailing around the stage in a speech that was part product presentation, part political rally and part religious sermon, Biver basically told us in making expensive watches for rich people he was doing god's work, even though he didn't believe in god. He did believe in love though. And the Beatles. And cheese. Cheese is nearly as big as watches in Biver's world and he makes 5,000kg of the stuff a year back home in Switzerland to be shared among only his most honoured friends and clients. Selling it would apparently devalue its magic. But he did bring 45kg of it to the event, a more modest quantity of which we munched in somewhat stunned silence while conceding it had, after all, turned out to be quite the night out.

Dan



Audi, earlier in the day
As per a Tweet earlier I sometimes find Audi hard to understand. The 'new' Q5 is so indistinguishable from its predecessor as to be close to parody. But, at a corporate level, you get the impression Audi doesn't really do jokes.

Unless they really did drive the old one on stage by mistake of course.


Probably not. But it is amazing that directly in its wheeltracks came this piece of kit, the RS3 LMS. It's a TCR racing version of the RS3 saloon also unveiled here and it looks utterly badass. Especially in these studio shots seen here. And it proves Audi build quality and predictable gushing about interior finish carries over to its customer race cars too. Though we're puzzled as to exactly what that beautifully machined and very prominent aluminium lever does, given there's already a disembodied DSG shifter on the centre tunnel and paddles behind the wheel. Unless TCR races feature Ken Block style gymkhana stages it's a puzzler. Note also the round steering wheel, ironic given the flat-bottomed articles fitted to everything from R8s to Q3s are claimed to be shaped thus 'because racing car' as the youth might say. Actual racing car begs to differ it would seem.

Actual racing car does look absolutely incredible with its fat slicks bulging out of its box arch extensions, outrageous rear wing and plain gauge centre exhaust. OK, so the noise coming out of it won't be turbocharged five-cylinder warble (more's the pity) because TCR cars run four-cylinder engines. But, while we're on a roll with the Audi stereotypes, it's certainly got the kind of presence in the mirrors that'll have Golf and Leon driving rivals quivering in their race overalls. Yours for 99,000 euros plus VAT for the 'clubsport' version and 129,000 euros for the TCR spec with race sequential. Or about the same as that Cayman GT4 Clubsport I drove the other day.

Dan



 



Jaguar Land Rover, 1515h
So, back 'home' after a quick whip around the show bagging pics and kicking the odd tyre along the way. Usually when you bump into other hacks or PRs chained to their own stands and curious about what else is going on the conversation turns to what's hot and what's not. But the main topic here seems less about the show and more about the no-shows.

No Bentley, no Aston Martin (seemingly off playing with speed boats in Monaco), no Lamborghini and none of the wild and wacky tuners that enliven both Geneva and even Frankfurt. No Lotus either but then Paris was the scene of *that* press conference a few years back and they probably want to stay well away. Relatively these are smaller brands and, if surprising, you can perhaps understand why they might not go to the bother if they don't have anything particular to show off. But no Ford, Mazda or Volvo? Mercedes apparently showing off its new GT Roadster away from the show and then not bringing it to the stand? Whether Paris is a particularly expensive show for them I don't know but from what I've heard about costs of attending Geneva I doubt it. There's certainly more space here. Maybe this is the first hint big brands aren't getting a return on the massive investment required in coming to these events and the end of the 'big' motor show as we know it. Curious...

Dan

 



Renault, 1400h
The Clio RS16 has to be built. Has to be. Seeing it on the Renault stand, even in the presence of that Trezor, it looks fantastic. There's a really rally car feel to it, the stance spot-on and Liquid Yellow the perfect colour.


Chatting with Renault's PR man last night, the main issue to overcome is that of cost. As such a mad project, it would require much of the production process to be by hand. And that doesn't come cheap. How much, realistically, will people be willing to pay for a Clio? That's what's being weighed up at the moment, along with various dull homologation issues like calibration of the electrics and so on.

They seem fairly confident, so let's hope this brilliant little concept can be made. The current Clio Renault Sport is a very good hatch crying out for a better powertrain - as an RS16 it could be magnificent.

Matt



Ferrari, 1245h
A quick pit stop for a suitably invigorating espresso (spotting a theme here?) and some exotic tyre kicking on the Ferrari stand. The Aperta and GTC4 Lusso T are cool but I'm also rather taken with the Tailor Made historic liveries inspired by the brand's 70th anniversary and famous road and race cars from this heritage. And if you're wondering who on earth could make a brown California sound cool just bear in mind the inspiration - some bloke called Steve McQueen apparently... The 488 GTB in 2003 Schumacher colours and the F12 in Rob Walker livery evoking the 250 SWB raced by Stirling Moss are also pretty cool.

Ferrari is also a pretty good place for people watching and general earwigging too. To that end Jean Todt has just casually walked onto the stand, seemingly having less trouble getting by 'the rope' than most...

 

 

 

 

 



Jaguar Land Rover, 1000h
Dammit, I was just going to nip downstairs and get some further snaps of the Discovery but, rather inconveniently, they've put the sheets back on ahead of the press conference. Should've taken my camera to the tech thing shouldn't I... Here's a phone snap in the meantime, the photos from last night's event back in the UK fixating more on the celebs in attendance than the car itself.


I have to say, for all the interesting tech, the commendable weight savings and all the rest I'm struggling to summon up a huge amount of passion about the looks. I loved the exaggerated Tonka-toughness of the Discovery 3 and 4 and clear identity it gave the car in the Land Rover line-up. I can't help thinking the new one is a little timid and formulaic in comparison; a neater fit in the family but somehow less distinctive and a rather conservative design. Sure, it's got the reverse C-pillar and the step roof but the assymetric numberplate recess is about as daring as it gets; a neat reference to the outgoing Discovery's distinctive lines but hardly daring.

I saw a Discovery 3 parked up on a Parisian street yesterday and, to me, the 'ugly' functionalism of its matt plastic arches and bumpers makes more sense in a driving environment like this and, indeed, of Discovery's supposedly fit for purpose image. I'd be happy in the cut and thrust of the traffic here in that, 'touch' parking and all. Less so in the glitzy looking new one. And that's a shame.

Dan



Jaguar Land Rover, 0915h
Kind of odd being in Paris for a motor show, given that about the least appropriate form of transport here would appear to be a motor vehicle. Last night I pedalled back from the Land Rover Discovery presentation on one of the Velib 'Boris Bike' rentals and that was far more efficient than the bus that took an hour to get me here this morning. I may well opt for that on the way home to blow out the show cobwebs!

We're a way off that though. As you'll see from the essential 'what I had for my breakfast' pic above I have the two things any hack requires for a motor show, which is to say a steady supply of coffee and working wireless. Both of these are to be found in - literally - my regular chair on the Jaguar Land Rover stand. I suspect the catering staff here are so familiar with my presence they half expect me to be unpacked with the rest of the furniture when they set up at the start of the show!

Suitably fuelled I have a photo hitlist to attend to though - that Honda looks like an Aventador SV in hot hatch form and I'm really rather keen to see if the AMG GT Roadster shapes up as well in the metal as it does in photos. Matt tells me the 'Aperta' LaFerrari is pretty stunning too but I'll need to brave the bunfight to get anywhere near that. 

Dan



Mondial de l'Automobile, Pavilion 4, 0730h
Despite the absence of a few big manufacturers, Paris 2016 still looks like being a fairly mammoth show. And nowhere is that more evident than at the German manufacturers, taking up huge swathes of space in their respective pavilions.

Mmm, grey
Mmm, grey
I've not had a detailed look yet - a Ferrari press conference beckons - but both Audi and BMW have enormous exhibitions. Mercedes and VW do as well, but neither of those have S8s or M6 Gran Coupes on them...

Yep, in a show firmly focused on future mobility, I'm drooling over V8 saloons. They looked great though, the Audi in Nardo Grey and the BMW in silver, tucked away on their respective stands as the attention moves towards electrification and autonomous drive. Probably depreciating already too. Cool cars.

And is it bad that I quite like the look of an R8 Spyder with white leather? Best get some proper breakfast in...

Matt

 

 


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Discussion

jamespink

Original Poster:

1,218 posts

204 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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That Ducati looks delicious!

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Hope someone brought a camera to this one.

R66STU

273 posts

176 months

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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PH now click baiting with a headline picture of Range Rover #1, and then going on about wristwatches and cheese.

I demand compensayshun in the form of an article about RR #1!