RE: Shed Of The Week: BMW 5 Series Touring

RE: Shed Of The Week: BMW 5 Series Touring

Friday 4th November 2016

Shed Of The Week: BMW 5 Series Touring

Big diesel, big miles, and apparently only a couple of small problems...



After hitting a literal high last week with the majestic Rover Chairman (now only £800 folks!), Shed felt he needed to come back down to earth this week with an interesting example of that well-known bastion of middle-England respectability, the BMW E39 Touring.

Before we start, does anybody know why 'Touring' became the accepted word for an estate car? If you were a bit OCD and not really into cars but needing to buy one, you might be bamboozled into thinking that you had to buy a Touring for any sort of, well, tour. Which is clearly not the case. If we really needed to be told what cars were for, the streets would surely be littered with Hyundai Shoppings, Toyota Snoozings and Ford Arguings. And they're not.

Your man knows Shed criteria well
Your man knows Shed criteria well
The last E39 Touring to be featured in this column (around four years ago) was discussed in less than glowing terms on the Smoker Barge thread. Phrases including 'poo' and 'worst car ever' were used. A bit strong perhaps, especially as the person using those particular terms was the vendor himself. Output Flange pithily noted that he 'wouldn't touch it with a double-wrapped, asbestos-lined stunt c*ck'.

Despite everything, that Touring (a 540i) sold on the same day that it appeared in SOTW. Today we have a 1999 530d Sport in green with what looks like black leather and a few bonus licks of white paint on the windows.

Although a well looked-after big-engined E39 can reward its owner with a quiet, smooth and overall truly fulfilling barge experience for a very long period of time, there's no getting away from the fact that things do go wrong.

5 Series Touring problems fall into three main categories: minor annoyances, potentially terminal nasties, and an interesting third category of head-scratching mysteries.

Add your dog/wardrobe/IKEA cliche here
Add your dog/wardrobe/IKEA cliche here
In category one we have doors and window electrics, non-illuminating display pixels and bulbs in the dash, alternators, power steering pumps, radiators and hoses and loom trouble in the tailgate window/wiper area. The good news is that the E39 is a friendly car to work on and even OE parts are not as dear as you might think.

Coming under cat 2 are issues (for the Touring specifically) in the self-levelling airbag rear suspension and more generically the gearbox. They have a habit of dying at the 150K mark. If this is the original box, then it's doing well, but the seller does mention a judder in reverse. That could just be an oil top-up needed, but it could also be pointing to drum breakup, which would mean a one-way trip to the scrapper's.

Finally, cat 3, the famous '5 Series shimmy' which manifests itself as a steering wheel wobble between 50 and 60mph. Many weird and wonderful causes and solutions have been proffered over the years - including replacing bent rims, warped brake discs, duff upper and lower track control arms and wonky steering boxes - but nobody has ever really definitively pinned it down. It's one of the great mysteries of motoring. Last time Shed looked, the most popular move was to invest around £150 in a new set of anti-roll bar bushes and droplinks.

How many more miles are in it?
How many more miles are in it?
You may have noticed the gargantuan mileage on our Shed. This could explain the shortage of cabin shots: it's a fair bet that the moo on the driver's perch will look like an old turtle's neck.

For Shed, however, high mileage is a badge of honour and something to brag about, not something to be ashamed of. In his opinion, any car that's racked up over a quarter of a million miles now deserves to be kept alive for as long as possible just to see how far it will go.

The vendor is obviously of the same opinion, but not everyone will share that view. He says that 'everything' has been replaced, and with genuine parts too. It's always preferable to have those rather than the virtual ones some people try and fob you off with. Even though that old E39 Touring Shed sold on day one, the £1,000 asking price for this one sounds hopeful. Load your negotiating weapons, take aim and fire.

Here's the ad.

WE HAVE LOVED THIS CAR. It has had everything replaced on it over the years. We`ve had it for 7 years and looked after, regularly serviced , all genuine parts, MOT for 9 months, hasn`t been used since November last year. Has had a judder when in reverse and has done for years, it has driven me 25 miles to work for years, lots of kickdown with the automatic gearbox and great fun to drive. I did the scratch on the bonnet sadly.

 

 

 

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Discussion

Dafuq

Original Poster:

371 posts

171 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Outstanding, the granite bedrock of all things shed.

Win.

JD2329

482 posts

169 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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I may have been lucky but not one of my old Beemers has had a 50-60 mph shimmy that wasn't cured by proper wheel balancing and wheels torqued correctly on a clean hub facing.

This definitely gets my vote over last week's offering

SilasGreenback

4 posts

139 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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How is Mrs Shed this week?

Drive Blind

5,100 posts

178 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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The Advert Says said:
lots of kickdown with the automatic gearbox
having never driven an automatic how much is 'lots'?

and what is the official unit of measurement for kickdown?

rallycross

12,826 posts

238 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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This is worth £500 max.
Very poor effort this week.

Drive Blind

5,100 posts

178 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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I see it now - it's got 1986 bhp!

alorotom

11,954 posts

188 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Yawn

Overrated
Overpriced
Awful non-oem angel eyes

At least last week was interesting and different if nothing else!

Roger Woods

643 posts

212 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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I have had way more than 100 plus cars over the years and I have to say that I had a 1998 E39 528 Touring and it had done over 200,000 miles when I reluctantly sold it and it has to be up there in my top 5 cars, a great allround motor

paradigital

871 posts

153 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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No mention of the chocolate based cooling system?

Warpspeed1

19 posts

119 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Good luck driving it away as the vendor says it "hasn`t been used since November last year" !

s m

23,262 posts

204 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Drive Blind said:
The Advert Says said:
lots of kickdown with the automatic gearbox
having never driven an automatic how much is 'lots'?

and what is the official unit of measurement for kickdown?
Perhaps a bit like trying to quantify 'Fun'

daveco

4,132 posts

208 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Drive Blind said:
The Advert Says said:
lots of kickdown with the automatic gearbox
having never driven an automatic how much is 'lots'?

and what is the official unit of measurement for kickdown?
Having driven a 530d with the auto box I would say it is quite 'meh'. At the time I was driving a 325ci and it felt quite slow and very bloody heavy.

I think you'd want to buy this to munch miles not for the odd hoonage.

Depthhoar

675 posts

129 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Fine choice, Shed-meister!

The ailing gearbox and potential issues with the Touring's rear suspension would definitely be bugbears though.

As you say, quite a few of the other mechanical glitches can be solved if spanner twirling's your thing.

I see it's wearing period 16" Turbine wheels. Not sure they were standard fitment on a Sport, if it actually is a Sport.

Cosmetic rust has affected mine more than most (courtesy of Scottish Highlands gritter wagons) but the structure remains solid. Cars down in the soft underbelly of the South really ought to fare better!

Mine also has the early 183bhp diesel engine and is a soothing thing at an 80mph cruise. Mine's showing 160k miles at the moment and rising, hoping for 300k. Manual gearbox too so fewer worries about a grenading transmission. The running gear may well outlast the bodywork!

Agreed, the shimmy can be an absolute arse to sort.

V8 FOU

2,977 posts

148 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Boring boring boring....

Bring back the Metro!

Depthhoar

675 posts

129 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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paradigital said:
No mention of the chocolate based cooling system?
Less of a problem on the diesels. The petrols do seem to be much more fragile in this department.

soad

32,917 posts

177 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Drive Blind said:
I see it now - it's got 1986 bhp!
Fat fingers perhaps. Less than 200 in reality.

g3org3y

20,644 posts

192 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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Good concept, crappy example (imvho)

Non OEM aftermarket angels. Rubbish photos. Crazy miles. No interior photos.




soad

32,917 posts

177 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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g3org3y said:
Good concept, crappy example (imvho)

Non OEM aftermarket angels. Rubbish photos. Crazy miles. No interior photos.
yes For those reasons. I'm out.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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A world of hurt waiting to happen. Not worth a grand with a gearbox fault.Buy one that someone else has fixed for not much more cash.

Barchettaman

6,325 posts

133 months

Friday 4th November 2016
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I can't see how buying a car with 250,000 miles that has sat unused (presumably outside) for a year is in any way a sensible idea.

Assuming the vendor really has changed a lot of parts, that seems to be the most sensible destiny for this Shed - parts donor for a better example, and definitely not at £1000.

Not one of Shed's finest efforts, although the bar ia high.