RE: PH Carpool: Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk7

RE: PH Carpool: Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk7

Monday 21st November 2016

PH Carpool: Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk7

Bought on the strength of the infotainment system ... that then failed



Name: James Macpherson
Car: Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk7 Performance Pack three-door
Owned since: September 2015
Previously owned: 1996 Ford Escort L (first car, shared with sibling), 2007 Ford Focus 1.8 Titanium (shared family runaround when at university), 2008 Ford Fiesta ST (first personal purchase), 2013 Ford Focus ST-2


Why I bought it:
"After a testing time with my health in 2014, I began to associate my Focus ST with a period of my life I didn't want to be constantly reminded of. So when the PCP came up on the Focus, I decided it was time to change. Throughout my ownership of the Focus, a few niggles bugged me including its propensity to axle tramp in the wet, the poor SYNC 1 system, average sound quality from the Sony stereo and its five-door shape. Not seeing enough change in the facelifted Focus to stay true to Ford, I started looking elsewhere. As I'm a bit of a techy, I'd decided I wanted the latest technology so something from the VW range seemed appropriate.

"I weighed up the Leon Cupra and Octavia vRS and, as competent as they are, neither quite did it for me in the desirability stakes. My parents had a Mk2 Golf GTI and my dad always reflects on what a brilliant car it was and how sad he was to see it go. Despite the huge following and legendary status, I'd never had my head turned by the more modern Golf GTIs until I went to the Frankfurt show in 2013 and saw a Mk7 in the flesh. With a bit of spare cash from my time off work, some decent equity in the Focus and attractive PCP deals from VW, it looked as good a time as ever to make the step up to the quintessential hot hatch. With the right spec, it would also address the niggles experienced in the Focus."


What I wish I'd known:
"Websites like CarWow and DriveTheDeal are useful tools for negotiating a good deal and it was through CarWow that it became apparent the Golf was in my price range. When I ordered it I didn't know the annual spec change was imminent but luckily my build date was over a month away so I benefitted from the revised MIB II head unit with nav, standard winter pack and keyless entry. I ordered Car Net (even though the dealer knew very little about what it was) as I'd read on forums this would bring CarPlay/Android Auto functionality as well. Turned out I was right and I had the technology I wanted!"

Things I love:
"The colour, the general build quality and its ability to do just about everything. While this is my daily driver and unlikely to ever be tracked, I love how it can do the everyday mundane drive to work and also the B-road blast in an all-encompassing, high quality package.

"I've never driven a car with adaptive cruise control before and this is a great feature which has probably made it onto my must have list for future purchases. It just adds that extra level of relaxation on a long drive and the low down torque of the engine means I never really need to change gear.

"I also really like the manual gearbox. While I was tempted to go for the DSG, I thought I would miss out on the satisfaction of a perfect rev match and the overall engagement with the car."


Things I hate:
"Not long after I took delivery of the car, the infotainment system failed (see above about perceived build quality) and I was left without radio, nav and CarPlay for several weeks while they 'worked on a fix'. I'm not sure whether said fix ever materialised so eventually I asked for the unit to be replaced under warranty. It wasn't the best customer experience but they did give me some freebies as a gesture of goodwill.

"Also, while the adaptive cruise control is a great feature, the related City Emergency Braking system has butted in unnecessarily on a couple of occasions where it's deemed I'm about to have a crash and applied the brakes automatically. Where maybe I used to just lift off the accelerator when a car in front slowed to turn off a main road, now I apply a dab of brake just to let the car know I'm alert to what's going on in front."

Costs:
"Insurance is the big saver here compared to my previous hot hatches, mainly due to the city braking system. The Golf is about £200 less compared to the Focus for a postcode in the M60.

"Fuel wise I'm also seeing a 10-15 per cent improvement over the Ford and, if I'm really careful, I can get 45mpg on my commute.

"I also purchased the car with a service plan included so don't need to worry about that for a couple of years."


Where I've been:
"My family have a caravan in Anglesey so I'm often in North Wales but recently I took the scenic route along roads near Bala and the Evo Triangle. I've done a similar route before but this was the first time in the Golf. It's on B-roads like those in North Wales where the car really comes into its own, with the Performance Pack 'diff' hauling the car round tight bends well and the bigger brakes helping on hilly descents. At no point did I find the car wanting in the performance stakes, all the while covering the practicality side with my bike in the boot.

"I've a new found respect for the car now that I'm aware of what it can do given the right stretch of road."

What next?
"I plan to keep the car for a good few years as the technology is bang up to date with CarPlay and all the other gadgets I could ever need. If I do get bored with it I'll probably add a sharper pedal box to slightly alter the driving characteristics and different alloys to freshen it up. While I like the standard alloys, from some angles the car looks under-wheeled so maybe some 19-inch BBS items will address that. I like some of the ABT exterior touches but I don't want to ruin the car's understated appearance too much so I'll approach any exterior alterations with caution.

"I would like to own a V8 before they die out but practically speaking this would need to be a weekend car. However, if right-hand drive Mustangs drop into the low-20s in the next couple of years then who knows..."


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Alan_I_W

Original Poster:

471 posts

90 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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45mpg in a GTI? Damn

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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How can a car without an axle, axle tramp?

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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You make a valid point. But at the same time while technically 'incorrect' I think it's fair to use the term to describe the sensation described. Certainly VW does in its official literature - I remember we had a bit of a giggle in the office when the (possibly lost in translation) press release for the Mk7 Golf GTI described VAQ as having 'anti tramp' benefits! biggrin

Cheers,

Dan

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Yeah should of stuck to Ford but hey at least you are trying to retrieve the situation with a mustang

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Anti-tramp benefits smile

I was looking at a 14 plate Mk7 GTi as a daily. They make a good case.

1270kg, hatchback (dog owner), remap to 300 bhp and 325 lb/ft or more. Combined 47mpg figure.

Importantly, exciting to drive smile

I checked Car Wow but think I must have misread the finance figures as they seem too cheap.

For a new one with Performance/Nav spec at RRP 28k, they list finance as 23k with 2k off due to VW contribution. It then states £149 a month for 2 years or 20k miles.

Doesn't mention a deposit, so is that right, you pay £3576 for 2 years motoring in a new one?

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Scottie - NW said:
How can a car without an axle, axle tramp?
I think its a fair description of the action.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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My mistake, it's not part of VAQ, it's a part of the XDS system on the GTD and described as an 'anti tramp function' in the UK brochure. I knew I'd seen it somewhere in VW literature though. See attached.

They're being technically correct by omitting the 'axle' prefix of course. But inadvertently raising a chuckle by doing the same.

Dan



matpilch

246 posts

140 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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isn't that just wheel hop?

J.C...

156 posts

105 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Scottie - NW said:
I checked Car Wow but think I must have misread the finance figures as they seem too cheap.

For a new one with Performance/Nav spec at RRP 28k, they list finance as 23k with 2k off due to VW contribution. It then states £149 a month for 2 years or 20k miles.

Doesn't mention a deposit, so is that right, you pay £3576 for 2 years motoring in a new one?
Isn't that just the service plan that's £149 a month?

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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matpilch said:
isn't that just wheel hop?
Yes, but it's pedant Monday. Or more accurately, it's a tyre(s) losing and regaining traction which the typically soggy VW engine mounts & console bushes dislike, which is transmitted back into the cabin as an unpleasant thumping sensation. I think that ought to put the pedantry to bed.

What I find amusing about 'Performance Pack' is an implication the standard car doesn't have any with out it!

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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J.C... said:
Isn't that just the service plan that's £149 a month?
That seems an expensive service plan for 10k miles a year on a new car?

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Dan Trent said:
My mistake, it's not part of VAQ, it's a part of the XDS system on the GTD and described as an 'anti tramp function' in the UK brochure. I knew I'd seen it somewhere in VW literature though. See attached.

They're being technically correct by omitting the 'axle' prefix of course. But inadvertently raising a chuckle by doing the same.

Dan
I eagerly await the anti-chav function, that will sell well smile


Chr1sch

2,585 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Nice write up and I totally agree on all counts.

I've had mine for 12 months, great cars as an all rounder, plenty of poke too!


Al U

2,312 posts

131 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Alan_I_W said:
45mpg in a GTI? Damn
When can we expect to see a car pool of your S65 Alan/Aaron?

J.C...

156 posts

105 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Scottie - NW said:
That seems an expensive service plan for 10k miles a year on a new car?
Ah sorry I didn't mean to say "a month". I just got a quote because £149 a month sounds ridiculously cheap for a brand new GTi with no deposit and the service plan is £149 for two years or 20k miles. Just wondered if that's where the confusion arose


havoc

30,064 posts

235 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Scottie - NW said:
I was looking at a 14 plate Mk7 GTi as a daily. They make a good case.

1270kg, hatchback (dog owner), remap to 300 bhp and 325 lb/ft or more. Combined 47mpg figure.
Treat the mpg figure with an entire cellar-full of salt. To get close to that you need to drive it like a diesel, shifting up far too early, and you need to cruise at A-road speeds.

Last month I rejected a leased vRS230 (same powertrain as a GTi Perf'ce Pack) because of the lack of economy - on my 33 mile A-road / D-carriageway / town traffic commute, I get ~31/32mpg from a Civic Type R saloon, which is bang-on the official 31mpg Combined. Octavia was supposed to deliver 45.8mpg Combined, but the first tank actually delivered 28mpg - same commute and same driving style as the Civic, albeit with an allowance for it being a fresh engine needing running-in. OK, once run-in it'll probably do +/- 5mpg better than that, maybe 35mpg. But certainly not 45mpg...

When I queried this I was told it was my driving, not their car...


(The stories of the guys getting ~40mpg from Skodas on the forums are for run-in cars doing long, steady-speed commutes (i.e. extra-urban driving, not combined). Don't think anyone's got close to the official combined figure in any driving except for very long runs, let alone getting close on a genuine 'Combined' drive...)

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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As soon as I read that it was bought for the entertainment system I had to click through!

The 65-reg Tiguan I'm in has a rather flakey stereo. It doesn't seem to like coming on in cold weather! A client has a Tig too and that's been back for new software 4 times so far!

Clearly not a VW strong point.

Alan_I_W

Original Poster:

471 posts

90 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Al U said:
When can we expect to see a car pool of your S65 Alan/Aaron?
Not too sure why you think it's an insult to use my kid's name... Tinfoil hat time already is it?

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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havoc said:
Last month I rejected a leased vRS230 (same powertrain as a GTi Perf'ce Pack) because of the lack of economy - on my 33 mile A-road / D-carriageway / town traffic commute, I get ~31/32mpg from a Civic Type R saloon, which is bang-on the official 31mpg Combined. Octavia was supposed to deliver 45.8mpg Combined, but the first tank actually delivered 28mpg - same commute and same driving style as the Civic, albeit with an allowance for it being a fresh engine needing running-in. OK, once run-in it'll probably do +/- 5mpg better than that, maybe 35mpg. But certainly not 45mpg...
Thanks, some useful info. If I could get 35mpg I'd be happy though, it's 11 miles each way on 40 to 60 mph A and B roads so a nice commute smile

AndySheff

6,637 posts

207 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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Alan_I_W said:
Not too sure why you think it's an insult to use my kid's name... Tinfoil hat time already is it?
I don't think it's an insult. Aaron was the username you were using when you first registered.

What about a PH carpool then with the S65 ?