RE: Audi Quattro

Friday 18th March 2005

Audi quattro

Audi astounded the world with the 4WD quattro, introduced 25 years ago this March. Andrew Noakes looks back.


Quattrophenia!

Four-wheel drive was for farmers and foresters, until the quattro came along. There had been the odd flourish of fast 4x4 over the years, notably in the late 1960s when the Jensen FF and a handful of unsuccessful F1 and Indy cars appeared.

The quattro launches

But the idea didn’t catch on until 1980, when dull but dependable Audi presented its new performance car for the first time at the Geneva show. It marked the beginning of an era of turbocharged, four-wheel drive road cars and changed the face of rallying overnight.

The first seeds were sown in the mid-1970s, when Volkswagen designed an off-road 4x4 called the Iltis, largely by plundering the existing Volkswagen/Audi parts bin. Iltis experience led Audi engineers (notably Ferdinand Piëch, now Volkswagen chairman) to investigate the benefits of four-wheel drive in a high-performance road car, starting with an old-shape Audi 80.

Once Audi management had been convinced of the four-wheel drive car’s superiority in adverse conditions by back-to-back tests with standard front-drive cars, Piëch was given the green light to develop a high-performance, four-wheel drive machine for road and rallying.

Engaging transmission

Established Audi practice was to hang an in-line engine longitudinally in the nose, with the gearbox behind the axle line and the final drive to the front wheels between them. The clever part of the new four-wheel drive transmission was that the gearbox output shaft was hollow, and drove a centre differential (actually a modified Audi 50/VW Polo diff) at its rear end. Drive was taken from the centre diff through the hollow gearbox output shaft to the front wheels and by a split propshaft to the rear wheels. The result was an amazingly light and compact system which permanently drove all four wheels.

Both centre and rear diffs could be locked by dog clutches to provide optimum traction in severe conditions – even with four-wheel drive a single wheel with no grip would still halt progress. With both diffs in their normal ‘open’ state the benefit of the 4x4 system was that each tyre was called upon to transmit less tractive effort, so the chances of a wheel spinning were much reduced.

During testing, Audi also found another benefit: tyres generate less rolling resistance when driven gently than when rolling freely, more than enough to offset the additional frictional losses in the four-wheel-drive transmission. Prototypes delivered higher maximum speeds when driven by all four wheels than when the rear driveshafts were removed.

Performance

Power came from a turbocharged version of Piëch’s favourite five-cylinder engine, already under development for the 200 5T saloon and producing 170bhp. For the quattro it gained an intercooler and an electronic ignition system with an intake air temperature sensor, together with higher boost (up from 0.75bar to 0.85bar, about 12psi) and a bigger exhaust system, but the alloy head still had only two valves per cylinder. Output was boosted to 200bhp at 5500rpm.

At its Geneva launch, the quattro (Audi always preferred a lower-case Q) was the talk of the show, its pugnacious styling and technical sophistication wowing the crowds. Road tests by the press soon confirmed its awesome ability in tricky conditions, but few thought it was perfect and much criticism was levelled at the lethargic engine response at low speeds. Motor magazine revealed that at full throttle in fifth gear a quattro was slower from 20 to 60mph than a 900cc VW Polo, but from 60 to 100mph it was quicker than a Porsche 911SC.

The first cars were left-hand-drive only, but right-hookers appeared late in 1982. A revised version arrived in 1984, the wider wheels and stiffer suspension being almost ignored in the rush of complaints about the new talking digital dashboard. This, remember, was the era of the Austin Maestro.

Rallying improves the breed

But it was also the era of four-wheel drive rally cars, largely thanks to Audi’s efforts (along with Renault and Lancia) to lift the ban on all-drive entries. The works Audis made an inauspicious debut at the Monte Carlo Rally in 1981, Michele Mouton retiring with fuel system woes and Hannu Mikkola crashing out of the lead. But the quattros were soon winning, and they headed the 1982 Manufacturers’ championship. Audi Sport UK’s rally quattro, registered LYV4X (top pic) won the British championship in the hands of Mikkola and co-driver Arne Hertz.

By then, Lancia was beginning to exploit the new Group B rules to get ahead of the Audis, but Ingolstadt hit back with its own Group B machine, the Sport quattro. Sacrificing some of the original quattro’s generous interior space with a 320mm wheelbase chop and swapping steel panels for composite, Audi saved weight and made the Sport quattro a more wieldy rally machine. An alloy engine block contributed to the weight saving, and on top sat a new 20-valve head which helped boost the road version’s power output to 304bhp. Works rally machines were rumoured to be developing 450bhp.

The modern quattro

The road quattro would eventually get its own 20-valve head, but not just yet. The next revision was the introduction of a 2,226cc engine in 1988, controlled by a Bosch engine management system incorporating a knock sensor which allowed the compression ratio to be raised. Peak power and torque figures were unchanged, but that off-boost tardiness was now reduced. A Torsen centre diff was also fitted, to replace the old manual diff-lock.

The 20-valve head appeared in 1990, raising the quattro’s power output to 220bhp and providing 228lb-ft from just 1,950rpm. Though the launch of an aerodynamically-smoothed S2 quattro with a similar engine and transmission made the original car (known in Germany as the 'ur-quattro') look all of its 10 years old, there were many who still thought the old stager was the better machine. Those who still do delight in the regular appearances of Historic Motorsport Ltd’s rally quattros at events like the Goodwood Festival of Speed (right).

Drive one today and the ur-quattro still makes a convincing case for itself. And few would argue that the quattro – the car that re-wrote the rulebook in more ways than one – is an all-time classic.

Links

www.quattroownersclub.com

www.quat.com/urqhome.html

www.andrewnoakes.com

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Discussion

Deltafox

Original Poster:

3,839 posts

232 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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My favourite car of all. I still want one!

dazren

22,612 posts

261 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Having recently passengered in Yertis's car I want one as well. Unfortunately I need a bigger garage first.

Edited to say wouldn't this be a great thread for quattro owning PHers to put pictures of their cars on.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Friday 18th March 16:14

Annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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The rally car pics are of the 'sport' quattro which has a different chassis and heavily modified engine.

agent006

12,038 posts

264 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Annodomini2 said:
The rally car pics are of the 'sport' quattro which has a different chassis and heavily modified engine.


the article said:

By then, Lancia was beginning to exploit the new Group B rules to get ahead of the Audis, but Ingolstadt hit back with its own Group B machine, the Sport quattro. Sacrificing some of the original quattro’s generous interior space with a 320mm wheelbase chop and swapping steel panels for composite, Audi saved weight and made the Sport quattro a more wieldy rally machine. An alloy engine block contributed to the weight saving, and on top sat a new 20-valve head which helped boost the road version’s power output to 304bhp. Works rally machines were rumoured to be developing 450bhp.

softwaresorcerer

437 posts

249 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Drove one daily for several years - did about 70K in it. Mine was a 10V from 1987, and I loved it to bits. A fantastic car, provided you had no need for luggage - almost all the boot was taken up by a mighty fuel tank. And servicing costs were on the impressive side - 5 spark plugs at £25 EACH Worth every single penny it cost me though

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

251 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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dazren said:
Having recently passengered in Yertis's car I want one as well. Unfortunately I need a bigger garage first.

Edited to say wouldn't this be a great thread for quattro owning PHers to put pictures of their cars on.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Friday 18th March 16:14







Well you did ask!

It's an S2 Quattro, same running gear and engine but better




>> Edited by Fat Audi 80 on Friday 18th March 18:56

>> Edited by Fat Audi 80 on Wednesday 23 March 09:45

yertis

18,051 posts

266 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Fat Audi 80 said:
It's an S2 Quattro, same running gear and engine but better




Hatchbacks have their place I guess...

Deltafox

Original Poster:

3,839 posts

232 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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yertis said:

Fat Audi 80 said:
It's an S2 Quattro, same running gear and engine but better





Hatchbacks have their place I guess...


Yeah true, but theres only one quattro and its the UR.

agent006

12,038 posts

264 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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softwaresorcerer said:
D. And servicing costs were on the impressive side - 5 spark plugs at £25 EACH


It was announced this week that quattro oil filters are no longer available from audi dealers. Added to the ever increasing NLA list.

yertis

18,051 posts

266 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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Audi would benefit from setting up an outfit like BMW heritage to service their older cars. They're quick to trade off the kudos the urQ still gives them, but do the bare minimum to help us keep them on the road.

>> Edited by yertis on Saturday 19th March 16:46

mutt

4,300 posts

230 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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I can't believe the car that made me fall in love with rallying is 25 years old! It's always been a dream of mine to own one of these and I'd be happy just to have an afternoon in one of the Group B rally cars!

dinkel

26,942 posts

258 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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There's a nice bit of reading in this months EVO: grandmaster Stig and his furious 5pot. Leftfootbraking and all . . .

Quatrowebsite is yum.

flasheegee

20 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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One thing is missing in the story-the beginning.
The audi guys had the 4WD idea for an rallycar,
but no Car as an testbase was available in the civilian car program.
But in the military prog. was in little Jeep
jeep available,an old construction with 3 cylinders
2 tact engine (looks like an east german Trabant)
called DKW Munga.
The designers have used the chassis with 4WD components from the Munga to build the famous SWB
Quattro Prototype.
It was an beginning of an new Era....
here an pic of the partsspender:
www.feuerwehr-oldtimer-hoexter.de/Munga%2064.html

yertis

18,051 posts

266 months

Saturday 19th March 2005
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flasheegee said:
One thing is missing in the story-the beginning.
The audi guys had the 4WD idea for an rallycar,
but no Car as an testbase was available in the civilian car program.
But in the military prog. was in little Jeep
jeep available,an old construction with 3 cylinders
2 tact engine (looks like an east german Trabant)
called DKW Munga.
The designers have used the chassis with 4WD components from the Munga to build the famous SWB
Quattro Prototype.
It was an beginning of an new Era....
here an pic of the partsspender:
www.feuerwehr-oldtimer-hoexter.de/Munga%2064.html


Actually the Quattro was conceived when Audi engineers put the transmission from the (Audi designed and built)VW Iltis into an Audi 80. Munga was a bit earlier and shares no components. Iltis direct antecedent.



Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Sunday 20th March 2005
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softwaresorcerer said:
5 spark plugs at £25 EACH


Doesn't sound terrible....



Audi thingy said:

During testing, Audi also found another benefit: tyres generate less rolling resistance when driven gently than when rolling freely, more than enough to offset the additional frictional losses in the four-wheel-drive transmission. Prototypes delivered higher maximum speeds when driven by all four wheels than when the rear driveshafts were removed.


Really?

Someone want to explain that to me?

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Sunday 20th March 2005
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*Sniff* *dabs eyes* Oh my first (automotive) love.

The wheels are too small, the long heavy engine is stuck out way in front of the front axle, it drinks like Johnny Vegas, understeers like anything, only does 134mph and the parts are stupidly expensive. But I wanted one in 1985, and I still want one now. *Sigh* Still can't afford one though

Anyone got a pristine late 10v model in black with leather going for, ooh, about 5 quid? No? Looks like I'll have to stop with my XR4x4 then.

Mike


phlap

563 posts

252 months

Sunday 20th March 2005
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Oh stop it! Im gettimg withdrawl symptoms. I ran a 'proper' Ur Quattro for 4 years and loved it. At 140,000 miles it still was still going strong and I sold it for 500 quid less than Id paid for it.

Im going to jump to the defence of the S2 . These are much maligned BUT, having spent several years with both feel in a position to comment. The Ur is better to drive, has better handling and is a true classic. Dont dismiss the S2 though. The later 230bhp cars have a better engine, performance and interior than the Ur and are easier to live with. They are also much cheaper to buy in the first place. Not an icon but a very underated car.
Nice article and good to know the old Audis still have fans

Yertis

18,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th March 2005
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Here's mine not getting stuck in a muddy field earlier today...

agent006

12,038 posts

264 months

Sunday 20th March 2005
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That's not the point to point course at Andoversford is it?

awaits the inevitable "No, it's somewhere completely different"

Yertis

18,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th March 2005
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Yertis said:
the inevitable "No, it's somewhere completely different"


A hillclimb event, but for sighthounds instead of cars