RE: Ruf CTR: Spotted

Thursday 9th March 2017

Ruf CTR: Spotted

Ruf celebrates 30 years of the Yellowbird with a new one; here's your chance to get an original



Even by the standards of the Geneva motor show, the 2017 expo really was exceptional - the public days promise to be very busy indeed! We finally saw the new Alpine sports car, McLaren Automotive revealed its first replacement product and Bentley even previewed its electric future. That's before mentioning the Ferrari 812 Superfast, Aston new range of motorsport-inspired cars and the E63 Estate.

It's still a Yellowbird if it's green, right?
It's still a Yellowbird if it's green, right?
In fact, put it this way: the new GT3 was, arguably, the second most exciting manual 911 at Geneva. The show was that good. First place must surely go to the Ruf CTR, the 30th anniversary car that resurrects the Yellowbird legend with 710hp, a carbon chassis and a dry weight of 1,200kg. Some have suggested it doesn't look all that, arguing it's a bit of a pastiche, but the mechanical spec sounds spectacular.

Naturally you will have to be quick (and very rich) to get a new CTR, with just 30 being made. But what if you want an original? What if you read that Road and Track story three decades ago when the Yellowbird blitzed all comers? What if you fell in love with the wild Rufs on Gran Turismo, when Porsches weren't on there? And what if you still watch that Stefan Roser lap, wishing you could do the same? Here's the car for you...

This Ruf CTR, affectionately referred to as Kermit's CTR, isn't one of the original Yellowbirds; instead it's one of the factory converted examples built soon after, as evinced by its 1988 build date. Still, it's the same mechanical spec, with somewhere in the region of 500hp and 410lb ft propelling 1,150kg. Remember that was enough to see a CTR hit 211mph, in exactly the same conditions where a 959 did 198mph and a Countach 5000S reached 179mph.

As you might have been able to predict given it has covered 1,000 miles a year for the past 30 years, this car looks immaculate. The paint is spot on, the wheels good and the prominent bolsters are holding up remarkably well. Even the Alcantara hasn't worn too badly from the sweaty palms...

Looks like an old car, goes like a new car
Looks like an old car, goes like a new car
But here's the best bit: in the context of its contemporary rivals, £400,000 doesn't seem all that absurd. Bear with. You're not going to get a 959 for that money, or a 288 GTO, and you can pay £400,000 for a Countach. Heck, this 930 Turbo Slant nose is the same money as the Ruf - no contest, is there?

So yes, we're rather keen on this bright green Ruf. In a world where classic 911s seem to have ludicrous values arbitrarily attached to him, here's one that entirely warrants its reputation and value. With the old Porsche bubble showing no signs of letting up, plus the excitement around the new CTR, now looks like a great time for this Ruf. Hold on tight!


RUF CTR
Engine
: 3,366cc, twin-turbo flat-six
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 475@5,950rpm
Torque (lb ft): 408@5,100rpm
MPG: Who cares?
CO2: Really?
Recorded mileage: 30,000
Year registered: 1988
Price new: N/A
Price now: £400,000

See the original advert here







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Discussion

skylarking808

Original Poster:

799 posts

86 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Very mean even in kermit green.

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Viper Green ?

ChemicalChaos

10,390 posts

160 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I found this the other night when also looking whilst inspired by the new one.

What a car! I'm not sure how long I'd last until it tried to kill me though hehe

Demonix

483 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Awesome ! actually prefer Kermit ctr to the yellow, now to find the £400K to buy it

405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Very nice but no more 'worth' £400K than any other 911 with a looney pricetag wink

The market is generally not-so-friendly to 'tuner cars' - Alpinas don't generally outweigh unmolested examples of original BMWs as they age and RUF was no-different until recently - so I'm not sure it's the safest place for that money (but then cars are almost NEVER safe places for money!!)

By way of contrast - here's a race-ready E-Type with a full FIA race passport - not an original Lightweight/Low-Drag of course but you can actually race it and it's <20% the cost of one of Eagle's bespoke cars and 3/4s the price of Kermit

http://www.eaglegb.com/171/jaguar-etypes-for-sale/...

Yes, it's silly to compare them but it does show that 911 prices are bonkers atm and I'm not really sure any are actually selling/any buyers aren't insane or just trying to turn a fast buck/playing musical chairs with money and cars...

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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405dogvan said:
Very nice but no more 'worth' £400K than any other 911 with a looney pricetag wink

The market is generally not-so-friendly to 'tuner cars' - Alpinas don't generally outweigh unmolested examples of original BMWs as they age and RUF was no-different until recently - so I'm not sure it's the safest place for that money (but then cars are almost NEVER safe places for money!!)

By way of contrast - here's a race-ready E-Type with a full FIA race passport - not an original Lightweight/Low-Drag of course but you can actually race it and it's <20% the cost of one of Eagle's bespoke cars and 3/4s the price of Kermit

http://www.eaglegb.com/171/jaguar-etypes-for-sale/...

Yes, it's silly to compare them but it does show that 911 prices are bonkers atm and I'm not really sure any are actually selling/any buyers aren't insane or just trying to turn a fast buck/playing musical chairs with money and cars...
Yep, gimme the E-Type all day long. Can't see the aircooled 911 bubble lasting forever.

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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405dogvan said:
Very nice but no more 'worth' £400K than any other 911 with a looney pricetag wink

The market is generally not-so-friendly to 'tuner cars' - Alpinas don't generally outweigh unmolested examples of original BMWs as they age and RUF was no-different until recently - so I'm not sure it's the safest place for that money (but then cars are almost NEVER safe places for money!!)

By way of contrast - here's a race-ready E-Type with a full FIA race passport - not an original Lightweight/Low-Drag of course but you can actually race it and it's <20% the cost of one of Eagle's bespoke cars and 3/4s the price of Kermit

http://www.eaglegb.com/171/jaguar-etypes-for-sale/...

Yes, it's silly to compare them but it does show that 911 prices are bonkers atm and I'm not really sure any are actually selling/any buyers aren't insane or just trying to turn a fast buck/playing musical chairs with money and cars...
I feel the RUF CTR is more "justified"? Very very limited production of the original CTR compared to other 911s (as well as being able to out perform the monsterous 959 which is probably in the millions right now). Old 911s are reaching stupid money I'd agree though, anything aircooled is quickly becoming unobtainable for us simple peons

McAndy

12,445 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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GranCab said:
Viper Green ?
This was at Wilton House a few years ago. It reads "Kermit's CTR" on the back (visible by enlarging the photo of the rear end in the article), so this one goes to the frog with a piggy penchant!

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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The Ruf CTR 'Yellowbird' has made legendary by Stephan Rozer in Faczination on Nürburgring (Nordschleife).

Hardly an everyday 911, very limited, very expensive and exclusive.






TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I've been in an original (in Kermit Green as well) that used to be owned by PH'er - lovely thing, turbo and wastegate noise galore.

Was for sale at 99,000 and it struggled to sell it for ages. I think it went for about 80k to someone in Holland back in 2009.

AdamT (not sure if he posts anymore) had a very well known CTR on here a few years ago, then had a new R Turbo from Ruf as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk0lGtrDg4

Used to see him at the 'Ring quite often.

Amanitin

421 posts

137 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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405dogvan said:
Alpinas don't generally outweigh unmolested examples of original BMWs as they age
not sure about the UK market, but in Germany they definitely do. At least as far as mobile.de goes.

Mintbird

559 posts

101 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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TIGA84 said:
I've been in an original (in Kermit Green as well) that used to be owned by PH'er - lovely thing, turbo and wastegate noise galore.

Was for sale at 99,000 and it struggled to sell it for ages. I think it went for about 80k to someone in Holland back in 2009.

AdamT (not sure if he posts anymore) had a very well known CTR on here a few years ago, then had a new R Turbo from Ruf as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk0lGtrDg4

Used to see him at the 'Ring quite often.
I believe that is the same car. its been in the UK for a while, now owned by Gerard Lopez ( the F1 driver) I believe.

GT3-RS

1,085 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I'm sure this was the car I was looking to buy....this was when it was for sale back in 2004....£99k.....I 'm sure the interior was different it had a strange like liquorice allsorts pattern on the cloth interior and green backs to the seats maybe the interior was changed as it was a bit marmite maybe this is a different car but I can't imagine there were many Green Ruf CTR's about........anyway I passed and cheaped out and bought a 964 RS NGT Clubsport instead...how times have changed.....LOL

Mintbird

559 posts

101 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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GT3-RS said:
I'm sure this was the car I was looking to buy....this was when it was for sale back in 2004....£99k.....I 'm sure the interior was different it had a strange like liquorice allsorts pattern on the cloth interior and green backs to the seats maybe the interior was changed as it was a bit marmite maybe this is a different car but I can't imagine there were many Green Ruf CTR's about........anyway I passed and cheaped out and bought a 964 RS NGT Clubsport instead...how times have changed.....LOL
Thats right, the seats were swapped in the late 90s sometime. Here is some pictures of the car in Sweden in 1994 , was a festival. These seats now reside in a friends 964 Turbo. They should be re-united with the car!









PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Definitely should've kept the original seats. Albeit retrimmed.

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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g7jhp said:
The Ruf CTR 'Yellowbird' has made legendary by Stephan Rozer in Faczination on Nürburgring (Nordschleife).

Hardly an everyday 911, very limited, very expensive and exclusive.
He spends more time on opposite lock than pointing straight ahead.

Hard to believe that video is 30 years old this year.

Mintbird

559 posts

101 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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8:05 sideways with cart wheels. imagine with Trofeo Rs? wink

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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The power of PH! Love the old retro seats; would be great to see them reunited for sure.

It is a sublime looking things. Relatively speaking, it is good money given what ridiculous prices you have to pay for other supposedly rare Porsches. Let's face it, you have spend that to get a '73 RS and they made 1,500 of the things! How many were made of these...?

GT3-RS

1,085 posts

219 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Mintbird said:
GT3-RS said:
I'm sure this was the car I was looking to buy....this was when it was for sale back in 2004....£99k.....I 'm sure the interior was different it had a strange like liquorice allsorts pattern on the cloth interior and green backs to the seats maybe the interior was changed as it was a bit marmite maybe this is a different car but I can't imagine there were many Green Ruf CTR's about........anyway I passed and cheaped out and bought a 964 RS NGT Clubsport instead...how times have changed.....LOL
Thats right, the seats were swapped in the late 90s sometime. Here is some pictures of the car in Sweden in 1994 , was a festival. These seats now reside in a friends 964 Turbo. They should be re-united with the car!








that's the kiddy.......they should definitely be reunited with the car the seats in the car at the moment are not very nice at all imo.....anyway I quite liked the interior...it wasn't that that put me off....I just couldn't negotiate the price down I was about £10k short at the time....if ONLY I'd have known how much it would be worth today....Damned it!!! I'd have found the extra money from somewhere.....Ho hum never mind....mind you I think it's well overpriced I enquired about this car about 2 months ago good old Jerry replied to my Email and the price....£475k... eek LOL....suffice to say I said thanks but no thanks he's clearly reduced the price by £75k but it's still way over for me...I'm sure someone will buy it but I'm thinking it'll go for between £200k to £250K

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Was 2006. Just found the old pics. It had the liquorice allsorts interior and full cage - was for sale for 99k in a garage in Keston, then 89k at 911Box down the road.

http://s102.photobucket.com/user/JimmyB007/media/R...

http://s102.photobucket.com/user/JimmyB007/media/R...

Some more of it around the same time before it went abroad on this thread.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=162...

Different seats and steering wheel now - different car surely?

Edited - No cage either, has to be different. Full cage in the Box911 one, harnesses etc.






Edited by TIGA84 on Friday 10th March 12:03