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B1 ECC

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388 posts

143 months

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Monday 19th December 2005 quote quote all
Ford Racing now have listed in their cataloge the transaxle from the Ford GT.
Six speed, LSD, rated at 600 lbs ft, and weighs in at 200lbs, ratio's more than well suited to an Ultima with a slightly taller diff ratio, not cheap, but IMHO not silly money either!

peterpsg

813 posts

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Monday 19th December 2005 quote quote all
Looks good, though you can get a new GT2 Turbo transaxle for about that (plus some change for a Quaiffe LSD) and I've heard of them running 650bhp and similar torque figures...

But still a nice option, and geared 'ideally' for a smallblock V8...

bluesatin

3,040 posts

160 months

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Monday 19th December 2005 quote quote all
If you are looking for a second hand gearbox the Porsche GT2 transaxle is the same as the Porsche 996TT with the X50 upgrade. They both have 450bhp+ as standard and can go a lot further. Ruf Porsches are available with over 600bhp and have proven to take serious abuse at bruntingthorpe without problem

andygtt

7,514 posts

152 months

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Monday 19th December 2005 quote quote all
its also the same as the GT3... which is what I'm using.

Basically they are repackaged dig diff G50's with quick change casing and cable shift... and they take 600ftlb in the porsche GT2 endurance race cars. OH and they bolt straight up to a G50 adapter.


Although sticking with the Ford theme in your car might be worth it.... will it bolt straight up to the Ford block?

B1 ECC

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388 posts

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Monday 19th December 2005 quote quote all
The adapter would need redrilling, but if you were inclined to buy a Sean Hyland 6litre all aluminium double overhead cam modular Ford motor {600 bhp) it bolts straight up !!

>> Edited by B1 ECC on Monday 19th December 19:15
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andygtt

7,514 posts

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Monday 19th December 2005 quote quote all
sound like a new winter project for you.

peterpsg

813 posts

122 months

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Tuesday 20th December 2005 quote quote all
Pete in Prague (ultimacz) has a GT2 turbo (G96/88) box (with a sequential shifter! yummy!) so perhaps he can kindly shed some light on how the Porsche box performs.

And though I'm not sure he's stripped it down to check the gears, I do seem to remember him complaining about one of the gear shifts (maybe 2->3rd???).

The Ford box seems to be made by Ricardo, which I think is a UK based consultancy.

I'd pick the Porsche, simply due to perhaps a better aftermarket parts arrangment.

Ok, I'll shut up about transaxles now before certain people get bored...
P

B1 ECC

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388 posts

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Tuesday 20th December 2005 quote quote all
I just like the idea of it being bullet-proof??, and benefits, like drive shaft angles,generally better gear ratios and better final drive to suit the Ultima V8's.
I don't think parts would be an issue, doesn't the car manufactuer (Ford) have an obligation to provide spare parts so many years after the car is out of production ?

andygtt

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Tuesday 20th December 2005 quote quote all
B1 ECC said:

I don't think parts would be an issue, doesn't the car manufactuer (Ford) have an obligation to provide spare parts so many years after the car is out of production ?


apparently not.... as long as you can buy a new gearbox in that period they are covered.

peterpsg

813 posts

122 months

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Tuesday 20th December 2005 quote quote all
Also, you're assuming that Ford are still in business in a few years...

I think that there will probably be more aftermarket gearsets available for the porker box, so if you wanted, say rally type gearing instead of road...

But at the end of the day, if you're going to stick a Ford V8 in your car, and the Ricardo box bolts right on up... that's what I'd do..

Graham-P

1,361 posts

134 months

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Wednesday 21st December 2005 quote quote all
peterpsg said:
Also, you're assuming that Ford are still in business in a few years...

I bloody hope so!!!

Graham

andygtt

7,514 posts

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Wednesday 21st December 2005 quote quote all
Thats a good point Graham... whatever happend to brand loyalty?

Graham-P

1,361 posts

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Wednesday 21st December 2005 quote quote all
Ah...yes...well..eh....oh yeah.. my hand was forced to use a Chevy as I didn't want to change the chassis engineering...BUT had I known that Ian had a Ford installed I would've gone down that route as I would have got the discounts aswell!!!......phew think I got out of that one ok......


Graham

andygtt

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Wednesday 21st December 2005 quote quote all
well then, it's great news that you havn't yet installed the motor or box.... there is still time

crafty

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Thursday 22nd December 2005 quote quote all
Graham,

Just had a look on your site.... interior looks GREAT! Nice work!!

Graham-P

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Thursday 22nd December 2005 quote quote all
andygtt said:
well then, it's great news that you havn't yet installed the motor or box.... there is still time



Well as I've already got the engine it would be rude not to install it
Unless you know someone with a 351 Winsor who wants to swap??


Crafty. Thanks, very please with the way the interior has turned out.

Graham

B1 ECC

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388 posts

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Thursday 22nd December 2005 quote quote all
I've got 465 bhp 393 cu in Windsor on the engine stand !
I second the opinion on the interior, "Excellent Job"

The engine is ear-marked for another project. (Sorry about that Graham!)

jeff-texas

85 posts

118 months

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Saturday 24th December 2005 quote quote all
I just wish Ford had included electronic paddle-shifting like they originally planned. Sure it's harder to wire and costs more, but it's pooty dang awesome. It's the very definition of "modern supercar" or "1980's LeMans (like the Dauer 962)".

Without sequential/paddles, it's nothing special compared to the Porsche boxes that can take 600 HP and be custom-geared for a V8 for about the same money and probably less weight (G50/50 is 156 lbs IIRC), so I see no reason to go to the trouble of custom-fitting the Ford...

>> Edited by jeff-texas on Saturday 24th December 10:11

jeff-texas

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Saturday 24th December 2005 quote quote all
Oh, and Peter, yes Ricardo is mostly UK-based: www.ricardo.com

They modify Porsche boxes too, but very expensively. (similar to Holinger IIRC, but more expensively and with less gear-choices)

>> Edited by jeff-texas on Saturday 24th December 10:07
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