Thursday 2nd February 2006

New shocks for your TVR

Exclusive independent-developed parts

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Tired shocks? Try Gaz

Gaz Shocks has announced a brand new range of composite shock absorbers called Gaz Gold.

The parts are claimed to bridge the gap between heavy all-steel shocks and alloys. Gaz said it has taken all the non-hardware elements of the dampers and produced them in alloy, while keeping the strength of the nickel plated barrels.

This range has been exclusively offered to the TVR Car Club for their members. The TVRCC is launching in this month's Sprint magazine a list of TVR independents who helped develop this new range for all TVR cars, through to the Sagaris. A nationwide network of approved installers has been appointed.

Contact TVRCC for the installer list or TVR Car Parts for DIY installers.

• TVR Car Club

[Jem]

They all look loverly - I know nothing about this sort of stuff other than my 5l chim needs some seriously new shocks

What would you folks choose - can I trust these as an unproven product [if they are?]

Cheers

Jem

[the gazman]

Jem said:

They all look loverly - I know nothing about this sort of stuff other than my 5l chim needs some seriously new shocks What would you folks choose - can I trust these as an unproven product [if they are?] Cheers Jem

Here we go again
Awaits partisan comments from the usual suspects.

[Fire99]

Theres been quite alot of posts about Gaz shocks on here.
The reports seem very favourable..

I think its best we avoid another Avo,Gaz,Nitron - which is better debate!

But so far from what i have heard Gaz are a very good product.

cheers,

Nick

[the gazman]

Fire99 said:

Theres been quite alot of posts about Gaz shocks on here. The reports seem very favourable.. I think its best we avoid another Avo,Gaz,Nitron - which is better debate! But so far from what i have heard Gaz are a very good product. cheers, Nick

Hear Hear, I'm bored stiff with this.
If you want impartial advice about shocks, why not consult your trusted dealer/Indy, they will almost certainly have experiance of all and give you their opinion.

[Hoover.]

Jem said:

They all look loverly - I know nothing about this sort of stuff other than my 5l chim needs some seriously new shocks Cheers Jem

I whole heartedly recommend changing your shocks and springs and getting the car set-up properly.... having done this to two Tivs it just increases the FUN element and s

[trackcar]

the gazman said:

Fire99 said: Theres been quite alot of posts about Gaz shocks on here. The reports seem very favourable.. I think its best we avoid another Avo,Gaz,Nitron - which is better debate! But so far from what i have heard Gaz are a very good product. cheers, Nick Hear Hear, I'm bored stiff with this. If you want impartial advice about shocks, why not consult your trusted dealer/Indy, they will almost certainly have experiance of all and give you their opinion.

I agree with you but would take it further.. that you should *always* ask as many people as possible before spending money on what could potentially be one of the most costly things you do to your car.

I'm never bored of it though, I actively encourage people to fully understand what they're choosing between and I positively enjoy discussing the many points of set-up with them to make sure they can decide properly what they want to achieve. Given some of the agressive sales tactics employed by some distributors in other areas of commerce (not talking suspension necesarily here) I think it's only fair to make sure that our customers ask around as many outfits as possible, only then can they make an informed choice and not be blinded by bling and misinformation or pushy sales tactics. I'm sure Derek would be the first to agree with me here

[cuneus]

PMJI - Joo did you get my email ?

[the gazman]

Yep
I agree with Joo here, I must say however that for £500 odd, the difference shocks and springs make to a car is by far the best investment you can make.
I have seen people on here who have spent thousands on cars and then baulked at £500 plus fitting, when their car failed the MOT.

I and I'm sure Joo would agree, think its the best value performance bits you can fit to your car.

I've now supplied some 200+ kits and the complementory(sp)emails and posts on here I get support the fact that a decent well priced kit makes the car safer and consequently more fun.

[mongoose]

If you after a lower cost choice,then the Protechs are much better than Gaz-Fact.Gaz doesn't compare with with Protech on quality,or performance.You will find around 75% of the TVR dealers/indies now stock Gaz,due to some great marketing tactics!.Anything can be sold by anyone if the financial incentive is there sadly,even if it's not in the consumers best interest!
People like Joo,at www.track-car-solutions.co.uk won't sell Gaz(ask him why),even though they aren't tied in,and could sell any brand.I think it's fair to say though that even Gaz are better than the standard tvr kit,or Avo,the previous budget upgrade choice.Protechs are one of the best kept secrets out there,mainly due to the non heavy/pushy sales and distribution tactics employed by the company and its distributors.For the same sort of money as Gaz stuff,the Protechs really are the only one,but due to the aforementioned reasons,a lot of people miss out,not realising.

>> Edited by mongoose on Friday 10th February 20:17

[gooner]

Here we go again...

Go and get a room guys, I think we're all leaving this topic

[woody-oTT]

you get a room for your self big boy!!!!
So which one shall i choose? gaz, protech or nitron I was gonna pick protech as recommended by trackcar as I'm not a track guy as yet. but how do i choose now between them and gazzer? where are gaz based?

[the gazman]

woody-oTT said:

you get a room for your self big boy!!!! So which one shall i choose? gaz, protech or nitron I was gonna pick protech as recommended by trackcar as I'm not a track guy as yet. but how do i choose now between them and gazzer? where are gaz based?

You are in the right spot for getting advice on Gaz.
Apm,Austec,Fernies,Racing Green,TVRfix,David Batty,Euphoria,The V8 Centre,Topcats(if you don't mind a run up the M40)
Mind you they are all apparantly blinded by profits rather than quality.
You can ask David Batty or Andy at APM if they are putting their customers best interests at heart by selling Gaz. (just tell me when so I can come and listen to their answer)

[mongoose]

woody-oTT said:

you get a room for your self big boy!!!! So which one shall i choose? gaz, protech or nitron I was gonna pick protech as recommended by trackcar as I'm not a track guy as yet. but how do i choose now between them and gazzer? where are gaz based?

If your considering Nitron,then your already in the sort of price bracket that takes you out of the single adjustable Protechs and Gaz that i was refering to.I would,if i ever wanted higher spec stuff,have gone to Nitrons next time.But i recently talked to Joo,and he told me about the Twin adjustable new Protechs,which sound really good(read better) also.If your in this price bracket,apparently people who bought the single adjust protechs are now moving up to these when looking for something of the same quality,but in the nitron and upwards performance catagory.I've heard good things about Ohlins as well,but they would be out of reach for my pocket i'm afraid.
I have to say that i bought my first uprated shocks and springs package,like yourself, thinking i wasn't a trackday hero,and that i only wanted a good fast road set up.Now i'm of to Spa and 'the ring' in June,so it definately pays to think ahead,and get the best you can afford first time i feel.

[mongoose]

the gazman said:

You are in the right spot for getting advice on Gaz. Apm,Austec,Fernies,Racing Green,TVRfix,David Batty,Euphoria,The V8 Centre,Topcats(if you don't mind a run up the M40) Mind you they are all apparantly blinded by profits rather than quality. You can ask David Batty or Andy at APM if they are putting their customers best interests at heart by selling Gaz. (just tell me when so I can come and listen to their answer)

Oh dear Derek,give it a rest!You dont need to justify the products you sell to anyone,that read so sad.You also dont need to send unpleasant and offending e-mails,just because some of us have been lucky enough to find out that theres better VFM out there,and are happy to pass on that knowlege.
You also 'sound' very unprofessional now as well.Chill out .
Before this forum gets closed due to bickering ,lets let it continue as a healthy chat between those who want to find out about different shock and spring options.

>> Edited by mongoose on Friday 10th February 22:11

[greenv8s]

I haven't tried Protech [yet] or any of the recent Gaz dampers [yet] but I'm sure they're all fine. However, getting the springs, dampers and suspension geometry set up to work together and suit the car/driver is more important than just getting good components. And if you're getting it set up properly, you should really take advice from the person who'll be doing the setup for you. Not because they'll be able to tell you which is 'better' (although they may have views), but because they'll do a better job in less time if they're working with components they're familiar with. I also think it's a courtesy to let them supply the components that they recommend, and benefit from any margin they can negotiate.

[the gazman]

greenv8s said:

I haven't tried Protech [yet] or any of the recent Gaz dampers [yet] but I'm sure they're all fine. However, getting the springs, dampers and suspension geometry set up to work together and suit the car/driver is more important than just getting good components. And if you're getting it set up properly, you should really take advice from the person who'll be doing the setup for you. Not because they'll be able to tell you which is 'better' (although they may have views), but because they'll do a better job in less time if they're working with components they're familiar with. I also think it's a courtesy to let them supply the components that they recommend, and benefit from any margin they can negotiate.

Exactly my point, talk to the experts.

[carl_w]

Haven't done any trackdays yet, but v.pleased with my trackcar supplied Protechs

>> Edited by carl_w on Friday 10th February 22:19

[jellison]

Only have nice things to say about the Gaz guys - re-vlaved my ledas and all is now sweat with mine.

[mongoose]

the gazman said:

greenv8s said: I haven't tried Protech [yet] or any of the recent Gaz dampers [yet] but I'm sure they're all fine. However, getting the springs, dampers and suspension geometry set up to work together and suit the car/driver is more important than just getting good components. And if you're getting it set up properly, you should really take advice from the person who'll be doing the setup for you. Not because they'll be able to tell you which is 'better' (although they may have views), but because they'll do a better job in less time if they're working with components they're familiar with. I also think it's a courtesy to let them supply the components that they recommend, and benefit from any margin they can negotiate. Exactly my point, talk to the experts.

Nice one Derek,i'm glad we all agree on that.One of the reasons i rave about Trackcar,is that suspension is his thing.He's been an expert in this field for many years now,rather than a car dealer who also does....,or just a salesman,who doesn't fit(no snipe intended there).I think a well set up car with medium quality suspension,is always preferable to a poorly set up car with top quality suspension.I also know that the very well respected Peter(greenv8s)is also a customer of Trackcar

[the gazman]

mongoose said:

Nice one Derek,i'm glad we all agree on that.One of the reasons i rave about Trackcar,is that suspension is his thing.He's been an expert in this field for many years now,rather than a car dealer who also does....,or just a salesman,who doesn't fit(no snipe intended there).I think a well set up car with medium quality suspension,is always preferable to a poorly set up car with top quality suspension.I also know that the very well respected Peter(greenv8s)is also a customer of Trackcar

I have never dissed Joo's ability on this forum and I respect his starting up the tuning/rolling road work because he believes that everybody should have a choice and not be limited to one expert.

I agree and have unearthed a few gems myself who never go on the forums but have years of experiance setting up race/road cars and these people get customers steered to them that want something special and for those people who want a cost effective way of getting better handling on a budget can also get steered towards the right companies.