RE: New Audi TT details emerge

RE: New Audi TT details emerge

Friday 7th April 2006

New Audi TT details emerge

It's better says Audi but what's it like to drive?


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Details of the new Audi TT Coupé has been released, along with official pictures.

It's the second generation of the sport coupé, first launched in the autumn of 1998 but which has since become a familiar sight. Audi reckons that the new TT is even more dynamic than its predecessor, in terms of its design, its drivetrain, and its running gear.

Coachwork

The new TT is 137 mm longer than its predecessor at 4,178 mm, and 78 mm wider at 1,842 mm. The body is constructed using the Audi-developed ASF Space Frame design, consisting of aluminium and steel, the first time that it has combined different materials alongside each other. Sixty-nine per cent of the superstructure is made of aluminium. The steel components making up the remaining 31 per cent are to be found at the rear end, with the aim, says Audi, of balancing distribution of axle loads. Steel is cheaper too, of course. To improve downforce, a spoiler extends from the tailgate when the vehicle reaches a speed of 75mph -- a trafpol magnet?

The new Audi TT, like its predecessor, is initially available as a 2+2-seater coupé; the separate roadster model is scheduled for later launch. The basic luggage capacity is 290 litres, which can be increased to 700 litres by folding down the rear seat backs. It gets sports seats and a choice of three different leathers for the covers.

Motive power

Two petrol engines are available, a 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder TFSI unit featuring FSI direct injection develops 200bhp and drives the front wheels only. With a six-speed manual gearbox, it accelerates the TT to 62mph in 6.4 seconds, reaching a top speed of 150mph. The naturally aspirated 3.2-litre V6 engine drives all four wheels, develops 250bhp, hits 62mph from rest in 5.7 seconds and has a top speed of 156mph (electronically governed).

Both engines are equipped with a six-speed manual gearbox. On request they can be combined with the dynamic S-tronic dual-clutch gearbox.

Dynamics

According to Audi, the suspension was newly developed and tuned for the TT and features self-steering behaviour up to the handling limits, which range from neutral to light understeer. The rear suspension uses a multi-link arrangement.

The track enlargement, with larger wheels ranging from 16 to 19 inches in size, and extensive changes in the area of elastokinematics were key areas of the developers’ work, said Audi.

The magnetic ride damper system is available as an option. In this system, tiny magnetic particles circulate in the oil inside the shock absorbers. When a voltage is applied to them, they alter the damping characteristics within milliseconds. Audi says it means the adaptive system "simultaneously ensures high levels of ride comfort and thoroughly sporty dynamism, according to the specific driving scenario and the preferences of the driver".

Features and options

Standard features include an automatic air conditioning system and a flat-bottomed sports steering wheel, which makes it easier to get in and out. The air vents, steering wheel spokes and many of the controls are finished in an aluminium look -- plastic presumably.

Options include the adaptive light dynamic cornering light system and the Audi parking system which -- yay -- aids parking.

The audio system features softkeys to control a variety of functions depending on which menu is selected. A CD/radio system comes as standard. A Bluetooth interface is available for mobile phones. The telephone function can be operated via the MMI, the multifunction steering wheel and by speech control. The operator control for the optional navigation system takes its cues from the MMI system from the Audi A6, A8 and Q7 model series.

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GTRene

Original Poster:

16,529 posts

224 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Less TT more Audi...
Never was a real fan of the TT, this one I like a bit more...add some more power and make it a bit more raw
GTRene

s2gonzo

6,235 posts

240 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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high res clickable....




mk1fan

10,517 posts

225 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Very nice. I like it alot.

Mr Whippy

29,029 posts

241 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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No 4wd on the 2.0 TFSI? Seems a bit of a waste in my opinion. Not that it made it a better car on the old one, but it was a feature at least.

Just basically the Golf GTI vs Golf R32, but with TT clothes.

Where is that nice 2.7TT from the old RS4, shove that in with RWD and leave it at that imho

Dave

tom dick

6 posts

219 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Yeah its nice but its not exactly revolutionary is it!

When the TT came out it really stirred things up! It got audi back on track and was just a great all round little car! This TT is going the same way so many cars have! Look at the new 911 (997)against a 996 against a 993! They just get more technology = more wieght = more power!

The TT is desitned to become just another car and thats a real shame! Yeah the technology is better and bla bla bla but look at it! it doesnt exactly get the blood flowing does it?

Tom

zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Bastard offspring of a 911 and a Golf GTi.

Uglier than a Camera Partnership Press Release, too.

DavidEVO1

65 posts

217 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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I love the ‘lambo’ style wheel in the RS4, it gives it a real hardcore edge, I can understand why Audi use it in S-line cars, but putting it in a TT really diminishes the impact and uniqueness of having it in the S-line cars, or is that just me?

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Well at least it looks pretty good this time around (last one looked like an upturned bathtub IMHO). Having said that, when Audi says it's 'better to drive', they appear to be saying 'we've stuffed it full of numbing gadgets'.

I'd prefer it if they offered a TT 'GT3', if you will - completely stripped down to the bare essentials, no servo-assisted anything, no parking assistance or other Numptytronic devices, no power steering - and hardcore drivers could really see how good that chassis and quattro system were. And I'd have mine in white.

Because as it is, I'm not convinced.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

252 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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zumbruk said:
Bastard offspring of a 911 and a Golf GTi.

My thoughts exactly. I don't thgink it looks terrible though - I just need time to get used to it.

tom dick

6 posts

219 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Bravo!

What do you get if you try and make a 911 from a golf GTI? A TT! The golf GTi (in mk4) was a great car when it got the 180BHP engine and in r32 guise, and the S3 is a great car! why bother putting a coupe body on it and pretending it's a porsche!

This TT is just a fatter uglier old TT! like a lot of modern cars it will go the same way as the old corvette did in the 60's / 70's it will get fatter and fatter, heavier and heavier until it is a millenia away from what it orginally was!

Shame!!

PaZ

78 posts

226 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Never been a fan of the original TT, and not really a fan of this one. Although it does look a little less cutesy so maybe a man could go and buy it and not be called a hairdresser....time will tell!

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Looks ok but not very distinct from a 350Z or even a Cayman

havoc

30,062 posts

235 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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tom dick said:
The golf GTi (in mk4) was a great car when it got the 180BHP engine and in r32 guise...

In what way was it 'great'? The MkIV GTi was dynamically outclassed by almost all the opposition, was underpowered until very late in life when the 180 version was brought out (complete with turbo lag and STILL with a boring exhaust note), had little steering feedback, overservo'd brakes, oh, and an awful image.

For the money, I could name offhand a half-dozen better contemporary hot-hatches (or similar):-
Civic Type-R
Mini Cooper S
Clio 172/182 (not on build quality, driving position, or practicality, but in every way that matters to a 'GTi')
ST170 (very underrated car)
Octavia vRS (yep, the Skoda Golf out-GTi'd the GTi!!!)
...even the MG ZS is a more interesting drive, from what I'm told (not driven that one)

'great' really is overstating the case for what is commonly recognised as the most underwhelming Golf GTi so far released.


The R32 was an improvement, and is supposed to be a competent car, granted, but put itself in competition with Scooby's and BMW's...never a good move.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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All looks a bit Crysler Crossfire to me

Hope it look better in the flesh.

More power would be nice too.

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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If someone wants to buy one, then ok I will not stand in their way, but personally I don't see the point in this car, it certainly doesn't look any better than the old one (to be honest I think they've been very lazy with the design).

For getting 4 proper seats and a reasonable boot for 70-75% of the cost, I don't see it as an option over the golf.

Now with the 2.7TT (appropriate naming I think, then you have much more interest.)

pasthim

15,652 posts

234 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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I think it is one of those we need to see in the metal. I wasn't that impressed with the new Jaguar XK but in the metal it looks superb. Maybe this TT will look better when we see it driving down the road.

How high quality does that interior look though! Incredible!

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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I like the old one better.

no turbo 4 wheel drive is sad.

V6 engine weights a ton

looks like an A4 Coupe now.

Mr Whippy

29,029 posts

241 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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Thing is the old one looked different, and still does. It doesn't follow any other trend, and no other cars follow it, even within the Audi stable!

Would still buy the old one over the new one, no matter how good the new one is to drive, it doesn't look different, and you can always fettle the old one underneath to make it better! Current TT, *maybe* future classic. 25 years you might still be turning your head to look at one. This one however, no way. Borrrinng!

Dave

mr fix it

466 posts

268 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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The old one was definately a step forward, being a fresh new design. This is just a slightly angled version of that and looks pants. The interior of the old car was also much better, this one looks like a standard audi.

Chris71

21,536 posts

242 months

Friday 7th April 2006
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I actually don't mind the look of the new one - does that mean I should start questioning my sexuality?