how to spot if you need tracking/geometry doing

how to spot if you need tracking/geometry doing

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fidgits

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17,202 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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I was just wondering if there were any tell-tale signs that the geometry needs doing on a 996?

nervous

24,050 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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tyre wear and not tracking true. call me and ill talk you through it chum

fidgits

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17,202 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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Cheers Nerv I wont point out i dont have your number


The tracking is fine, tyre wear looks fine - it was more for future reference (and wondering if her habit of having the traction activate in a straight line could have anything to do with it).

nervous

24,050 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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does it happen when youre really booting it on wet/ dusty serfaces?

fidgits

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17,202 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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I havent driven her in the wet yet - but i could've just been the road surface...

and yes, it was after dropping it down a gear or 3 and booting it - perhaps a little snatchy on the clutch

nervous

24,050 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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thatll be it then.

smoothly does it chum, youre no good to us broken.

Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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fidgits, if you do need your geometry alignment sorting, I can wholeheartedly recommend Chris Franklin at center gravity. He has a top-of-the-range mobile alignment rig and has done a lot of work for S2000 owners through a board on which I moderate. He was originally recommended by a former S2000-owner who defected to the darkside and now drives a Boxster, and Chris himself drives an older shape 911, so he's familiar with the car.

He's an absolutely top bloke with such a passion for cars. He is also very keen to educate owners so he positively encourages you to get under the car with him while it's up on the rig and watch what he's doing.

He lives in the East Midlands but is mobile, so he can come to you (subject to you being able to find somewhere with enough room for his rig!)

www.centergravity.co.uk/

(Just for the avoidance of doubt, I have no connection with Chris other than having been hugely impressed by him when he did the geometry on my recently-departed S2000 earlier in the year)

clubsport

7,258 posts

258 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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Nervy, while you are giving out set up advice,

I am finding a little more understeer than I would like when entering paddock bend in 4th, what would you suggest in the way of front camber settings and rear toe in???

It's an old 993, I am afraid, don't know if you bother with them, should I just get a 996 instead??....many thanks CS

Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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It'll be all those horsebrasses affecting the weight distribution, CS

fidgits

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17,202 posts

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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clubsport said:
Nervy, while you are giving out set up advice,

I am finding a little more understeer than I would like when entering paddock bend in 4th, what would you suggest in the way of front camber settings and rear toe in???

It's an old 993, I am afraid, don't know if you bother with them, should I just get a 996 instead??....many thanks CS

you want to watch the RMS on those mate hehe I've heard they're a bit of a weak point

fidgits

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229 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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nervous said:
thatll be it then.

smoothly does it chum, youre no good to us broken.


Cheers...

just getting the feel for her... I think an Airfield track day is in order though - just to find her limits..

nervous

24,050 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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clubsport said:
Nervy, while you are giving out set up advice,

I am finding a little more understeer than I would like when entering paddock bend in 4th, what would you suggest in the way of front camber settings and rear toe in???

It's an old 993, I am afraid, don't know if you bother with them, should I just get a 996 instead??....many thanks CS


rofl

have you tried re-shoeing the rear hooves?

Carrera2

8,352 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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I'd certainly consider saving your pennies on a geometry chaeck Fidgy.

That car, to me, was the most predictable and surest handling car I've driven. Take your time to get used to it and it'll come back at you in spades.

If you want to get a feel for the back end, find a carpark in the wet and turn the traction control off and just do some 1st/2nd gear driving to get the back swinging around - you'll be amazed at how controllable it is.

Don't worry - I haven't been 'drifting' at tescos on a Sunday - just suggesting it for you

fidgits

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17,202 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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Thanks Dave,

I wasnt suggesting she was anything but straight and true - I put a lot of the handling behaviour down to my driving rather than her - but its always good to know the tell-tale signs just incase...


As for sliding her in the supermarket - were you wearing a Burberry cap while doing that? hehe

Edited by fidgits on Tuesday 12th September 12:08

magic torch

5,781 posts

222 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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If you want to practise some rear-end action try checking out www.dubloon-hoon.co.uk next week.

clubsport

7,258 posts

258 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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nervous said:
clubsport said:
Nervy, while you are giving out set up advice,

I am finding a little more understeer than I would like when entering paddock bend in 4th, what would you suggest in the way of front camber settings and rear toe in???

It's an old 993, I am afraid, don't know if you bother with them, should I just get a 996 instead??....many thanks CS


rofl

have you tried re-shoeing the rear hooves?


Thanks for your expert opinion as always..... an invaluable asset to any Porsche forum

Carrera2

8,352 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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fidgits said:
Thanks Dave,

I wasnt suggesting she was anything but straight and true - I put a lot of the handling behaviour down to my driving rather than her - but its always good to know the tell-tale signs just incase...


As for sliding her in the supermarket - were you wearing a Burberry cap while doing that? hehe

Edited by fidgits on Tuesday 12th September 12:08


I know you weren't mate - I'd have said the same if it wasn't my old car too.

And yes - burberry hat and a couple of sovs were worn

nervous

24,050 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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clubsport said:


Thanks for your expert opinion as always..... an invaluable asset to any Porsche forum


git.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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clubsport said:
Nervy, while you are giving out set up advice,

I am finding a little more understeer than I would like when entering paddock bend in 4th, what would you suggest in the way of front camber settings and rear toe in???

It's an old 993, I am afraid, don't know if you bother with them, should I just get a 996 instead??....many thanks CS




Coming to the Brands PCGB day at the end of September? I found your advice veeery helpful round the Indy circuit...

fidgits

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 12th September 2006
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magic torch said:
If you want to practise some rear-end action try checking out www.dubloon-hoon.co.uk next week.


I'm probably going to regret this...


but I dont get it? confused