HID headlight upgrade on 111R... fitting guide & comparisons

HID headlight upgrade on 111R... fitting guide & comparisons

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Janitor

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Thursday 14th September 2006
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Presenting the latest in a series of ‘Janitor Guides!’… …nah, I’ve just stuck some new lights in!

Many thanks to Muncher for flagging up some remaining units from the recent HID group buy opportunity. “I’ll have some of that!”

Firstly, after getting a Lotus, I was a little surprised at how owners commented on the standard lighting kit as ‘candles’ - I always thought the headlights were fine to be honest… but then it dawned on me that my MY06 111R SportsRacer has the additional driving lights on full beam! rolleyes It has also struck me of late however that dipped was less than, well, enlightening. So following Mucher’s greatly appreciated quick turn around from payment to doormat, I’ve now done the install

The exact brand I don’t have a clue on, I just know they were imported, but Muncher may have more detail on that should anyone require. I also followed Bogie’s top tip of getting some LED replacement sidelight bulbs whilst I was at it – I’m well pleased with how they look actually! thumbup (He has also done the main-beam conversion as well! yikes cool)



Ok, on to the job. Apologies to those who are already well versed in the flesh and bones of an Elise as this is a pretty detailed affair starting from the basics for those like me who’ve never been in there before! Like my 2bular Exhaust guide, this may hopefully help a few owners save some bucks via DIY route thumbup

The 1st step is to remove the front wheels – clear and easy access is the only way to go. Observe recommended jacking points and safety here. Once wheels are removed, start on the front section of the wheel arch liner. I’m not personally familiar with fixings and methods before the MY06 models, but I think they may differ slightly

(1) remove top screw. (2) remove lower screws and withdraw ‘expanding plug’ type housings. (3) ease liner out from the bottom whilst siding downwards to free the joining support plate between the two liner sections. (4) exposed light housing & fixings:






Remove the allen-key headed bolts (Lotus kindly supply the correct size in the tool pouch ) (1) (2) & (3):








Carefully ease the glass cover forward and store safely and out of windy area to avoid dust ingress

Exposed lights:






Unplug, unclip and remove the existing dipped headlight bulb and install the HID bulb. I chose to do this first of all so that it’s safely stowed and kept clean whilst you’re sorting the cabling. Due to the lack of easy access, placing the HID tube into the holder is difficult, but be patient and avoid touching the bulb itself with fingers. (It can be cleaned with alcohol & lint-free cloth if accidental contact is made)

Note how the lugs on the bulb base locate in designated positions on the housing:






Next up, poke through the rubber grommet from inside (1) and trim the inner edge a little (2) to free things up a little for when it comes to pushing the HID bulb cable connectors through. Take much care here – don’t cut the cables or yourself and remember that your precious paintwork is barely a couple of inches away!






Thread all the appropriate connectors through the grommet (1) and refitting the grommet is best done by poking the whole thing through the hole in the clam and manipulating back into place from the inside of the arch. Attach the HID unit feeds to the original headlight bulb connectors (2) and tape them up for insulation and a little extra mechanical fastening (3). Tuck excess cable neatly away under the cable entry point away from the bulb housing and the hole for the glass fixing bolt (4)



(Note that the grommet supplied on the replacement HID bulb cables is not needed in this case. Either remove or carefully slide it up to the existing entry grommet as an extra drip-break)



New cables & connectors viewed from inside the arch:






Take this opportunity to connect the HID feeds or ‘ballasts’ and run a quick power-up test – there is really only one way this kit can go together (unless you’re trying really hard!) and it beats stripping everything apart again afterwards should something not be quite right!






Being unsure exactly what is what under there, I found it tricky to locate a safe & secure place into which I felt confident of tapping screws for mounting the ballasts. There are twin oil-coolers on the SportsRacer and not knowing what was behind any other panels, I elected to utilise the supplied bracket…



…and then a ‘known’ fixing. One 10mm socket later and all was firmly attached to one of the light unit mount bolts (not the glass securing bolts!). This is ideal as it is away from all other components and pipes etc whilst not interfering when arch liner is refitted:






Replacing the sidelight bulbs is dead simple. The holder is fixed into the top side of the main beam light housing and you simply turn the sidelight bulb holder through 90 degrees, substitute the standard bulb with a direct LED replacement and refit






The following pictures show direct comparison taken in identical light with a flash. (The original lights on left, HID & LEDs on right)

Sidelights:





Dipped headlights:





Main Beam:






As for on the road..? Haven’t tried it as yet! rolleyes …but one thing I do know is that the HIDs do NOT interfere with the radio as much rumoured… well, not on FM anyway. MW is lost with the headlights on but that always goes when the LED brake lights come on anyway! (I believe there is a fix for that though and it may cure all..?) I’m not sure whether it’s of any relevance but bear in mind that this is on an MY06 with a JVC Stereo and not the original DAB54

One final thought - I seem to recall that the headlight fuse needs upgrading from 10A to 15A..? As the HIDs actually draw less power, I wonder whether this is indeed the case. All input appreciated thumbup

UPDATE: Headlight fuses now uprated to 20A per side. Fuses under passenger side bonnet panel






Edited by Janitor on Thursday 14th September 20:07

shangani

3,069 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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At startup the HID's pull quite a lot of current. Once on, they use less current than the halogen headlights.

GTRene

16,369 posts

223 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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Nice write up Janitor, also good pictures to show thingsthumbup
GTRene

Janitor

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Thursday 14th September 2006
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shangani said:
At startup the HID's pull quite a lot of current. Once on, they use less current than the halogen headlights.


So uprated fuse definitely needed then..?



Oh and Cheers Rene!





Edited by Janitor on Thursday 14th September 01:30

bogie

16,342 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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good write up - yes change the fuse or it could blow during the startup surge

...I did the driving lamps too a while later for good measure....its like driving in daylight

edswales

43 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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Great write up - I also got a kit from Mr Muncher (thanks again) and am fitting it this weekend. Cheers for the clear guide.

Muncher

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248 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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edswales said:
Great write up - I also got a kit from Mr Muncher (thanks again) and am fitting it this weekend. Cheers for the clear guide.


No problems guys

That's a really good write up They really are the dogs danglies, with dipped and main beam like I have they are massively bright on completely unlit roads. Easily 15-20mph quicker at night, simply because you can see a lot further ahead. There won't be any danger in people seeing you coming from a long way off either

My mate has 3x H1 and 3x H7 kits left over and I can swindle them off him if anyone wants them. After that, it would be a case of getting enough people wanting them again to import from HK.

cqueen

2,620 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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Very good write up sir. Very generous of you to spend so much effort to help others. Bravo. clap

Janitor

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Thursday 14th September 2006
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cqueen said:
Very good write up sir. Very generous of you to spend so much effort to help others. Bravo. clap


Ta very much! Truth is though, I can't help myself! These little rocket-powered wheelbarrows kinda get to you don't they..?

grinzzz

566 posts

216 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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Glad to see you polished the bulbs before they went in mate

PB9

175 posts

221 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Do you have any info on the LED side lights ?

Are they different between the 111R and an older S2 111S ?

-pete

S Works

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249 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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How are you finding them now you've had them on there for a week or so Clive?

P.S. Love your 'how-to' guides, but at the same time am beginning to wish I lived closer to you... I'm such a numptie with the tools that I'm petrified even of trying to change the blown headlamp bulb on my front drivers-side lamp, I think it's going to have to wait until I get something done at the garage rofl

Janitor

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Monday 18th September 2006
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These will be the LEDs you want:

www.ultraleds.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=525

Remember that they are polarity dependant unlike standard bulbs - if they don't work when fitted, simply remove, turn over and refit thumbup Test this before putting everything back together again though!

Janitor

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Monday 18th September 2006
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S Works said:
How are you finding them now you've had them on there for a week or so Clive?

P.S. Love your 'how-to' guides, but at the same time am beginning to wish I lived closer to you... I'm such a numptie with the tools that I'm petrified even of trying to change the blown headlamp bulb on my front drivers-side lamp, I think it's going to have to wait until I get something done at the garage rofl


Hey Tim! wavey (Nice piccy of you & car with 3/4 plate on SELOC thumbup)

Ta for the comment ...of course to some people the guides are a little 'Granny, eggs and sucking' but as much as anything, I think they may help give people a little more prior insight into what's involved when considering whether or not to take something on themselves as opposed to pay dealer to do the same

As for what I make of the HIDs - funny you should ask actually... There's no doubt that illumination has improved - no question at all. There are some slightly odd elements of the beam / coverage though. My biggest question to myself at this point however, is would I have taken notice of them had I not read the points in the article link that somebody posted on the 'HID group buy' thread..?

The info in that article says how the resultant beam from an HID source forms differently to that of a standard Halogen bulb, producing a less evenly spread / consistent beam. I can definitely notice a small 'hollow' area on the road in front in line with the right hand edge of the car (drivers side) - but would I have thought twice about it before reading that additional info? Maybe, maybe not!

I am convinced however that further adjustment is needed. The light is concentrated very hard immediately in front with not much distance to dipped beam. Of course adjusting things too high is a complete no no, but it's very apparent that there is room to extend my viewing distance without having the lights anywhere near boot level of a car immediately in front - let alone coming close to blinding every poor sod I approach or pull up behind!

There are adjustments that can be made to the actual beam pattern on the Elise also - as shown here: www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/experience/maintenance/adjustheadlamps/adjustheadlamps.html I will be looking into that and again, I'm confident that the right set up can be achieved

In summary then - a clear improvement but some tweaking is needed to gain full benefit yet







Edited by Janitor on Monday 18th September 17:48

PB9

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Monday 18th September 2006
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Janitor said:
These will be the LEDs you want:

www.ultraleds.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=525

Remember that they are polarity dependant unlike standard bulbs - if they don't work when fitted, simply remove, turn over and refit thumbup Test this before putting everything back together again though!


Thanks for the link.

Not got my manual with me but are these the correct replacement on an S2 111S ? ( Not sure about the wedge description or fitting type, or if that differs to the 111R like yours. )

Also are these fine for MOT ? ( Or best to be replaced with normal for the test ? )

-pete

Janitor

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Monday 18th September 2006
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As far as I'm aware Pete, they should fit.

I'm not aware of any MOT issues with LED replacements

Muncher

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248 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Janitor, I do agree about the alignment, I think I will tweak mine at some point. It may be due to the lights being so much brighter it becomes obvious, who knows. My dipped beam alignment is good, I want my main beam aligned a bit further up the road though.

S works

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249 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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Janitor said:
S Works said:
How are you finding them now you've had them on there for a week or so Clive?

P.S. Love your 'how-to' guides, but at the same time am beginning to wish I lived closer to you... I'm such a numptie with the tools that I'm petrified even of trying to change the blown headlamp bulb on my front drivers-side lamp, I think it's going to have to wait until I get something done at the garage rofl


Hey Tim! wavey (Nice piccy of you & car with 3/4 plate on SELOC thumbup)

<SNIP!>


Sounds good matey, will await your further investigation. Might be something I invest in over winter.

Where's the piccy you talk of? Not a nasty I hope yikes

Janitor

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bogie

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Monday 18th September 2006
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my car passed MOT with LED sides and HID dip/main/lamps no probs.....and on the bit about adjusting them - get them done at a bodyshop with their alignment tool as per a normal car...then ask them to raise them up about 20% - the Elise is so low you wont dazzle anyone and it really works well ....had mine like this for 2 years no probs