Air Ambulance Service

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lord summerisle

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8,138 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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its come up in the Hammond thread...

thought i'd pop this up: www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2090 & www.russ-appeal.org.uk/

the Ride for Russ is a MTB event held to raise money for the air ambulance service.

The Russ appeal website also has a page for donations to the service.

hope that helps

lord summerisle

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8,138 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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also the Yorkshire Air Ambulance Service webpage is here: www.yorkshireairambulance.org.uk/donate.html

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Hopefully Ted is going to set up a dedicated paypal account for donations to the Yorkshire Air Ambulance in the morning. The hamster probably owes his life to it, so lets show our appreciation for their work.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Witnessed the air ambulance land in a gully, below road level, on the moors above Sheffield. It touched down in a space just wide enough, its landing gear settling between two rocks.

Then last night's programme showed the South Yorkshire police chopper nancying about with a plod on the ground, trying to find a spot to land on open, flat moorland.

What a contrast....

Zad

12,701 posts

236 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Don't blame the police, blame the Government and the EU.

Consider that many police helicopters and pilots are provided by Specialist Aviation Services who provide medical helicopters and pilots (and are indeed physically the same machines and people) but the same heli and pilot can have totally different restrictions depending on role. Not long ago, the West Yorks Police heli used to perform a medical cas-evac role, but then legislation was passed which stopped this happening, and forced the air ambulance into existence, which has to be funded mainly from donations.

They are in the stupid position that police helis can only perform cas-evac when there is a strong likelihood of death if they did not do so. Air ambulances, on the other hand, cannot fly during hours of darkness, or after 9pm in summer.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Zad said:
Don't blame the police, blame the Government and the EU.

[stuff] and forced the air ambulance into existence, which has to be funded mainly from donations.



This is what really gets me. Why aren't the air ambulances paid for by Central Government? Coastguard (RAF) ones are, as are the Police.

lord summerisle

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8,138 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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possibly the same reson the RNLI are still funded by charity rather than central funds - keep that independance.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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SHAMELESS PLUG

As well as raising money for ongoing operations, the Yorkshire Air Ambulance charity is looking to replace the ageing chopper they currently lease with a new one which will save money in running costs in the longer run.

Golden Wings Appeal said:


The Yorkshire Air Ambulance service is currently leases a Bolkow 105
helicopter, which is available seven days a week, fifty two
weeks of the year from 08.00 to 18.00. It is now fifteen years
old and technology has overtaken it so that more cost effective
machines with higher medical specifications are now available.

We are now seeking to raise sufficient funds to purchase a new
generation aircraft to take Yorkshire’s air ambulance onto a
totally new outing. An aircraft such as a McDonnell Douglas
MD902 Explorer costs around fully equipped
as an air ambulance.

We are seeking donations from
companies and individuals in
order to raise enough to have
the new aircraft during the
next year. If you would like to
help please contact the
Yorkshire Air Ambulance on
or write to:
0845 120 6060
‘The Golden Wings Appeal’
Office D255
Dean Clough
Halifax
HX3 5AX

I have been a Patron of Yorkshire Air
Ambulance since it was formed in 2000.
Any Yorkshireman will tell you that it is
the biggest area in England, containing
some of the most densely populated urban
areas as well as some of the most remote
countryside. People in the dales and moors
will certainly tell you just how much their
air ambulance means to them.
So I’m asking everyone to support this
Golden Wings Appeal so that Yorkshire can
have the air ambulance service it needs!
Freddie Trueman OBE

White_van_Man

3,846 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Im setting up a justgiving.com accout to the yourkshire air amulance on behalf of PH does everyone agree this is a good idea?

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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White_van_Man said:
Im setting up a justgiving.com accout to the yourkshire air amulance on behalf of PH does everyone agree this is a good idea?

Ted will be setting a paypal up later this morning I believe. That way we can send one lump sum from all of P.H.

Nothing to stop you doing that in addition of course.

Edited by tallbloke on Thursday 21st September 08:07

White_van_Man

3,846 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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trouble is with paypal a they charge fees and b they dont get tax relief. if we use justgiving the money goes straight to the charity with no fees and the can claim taxrelief. We can set up our own section so we can see how much we have raised etc...

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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White_van_Man said:
trouble is with paypal a they charge fees and b they dont get tax relief. if we use justgiving the money goes straight to the charity with no fees and the can claim taxrelief. We can set up our own section so we can see how much we have raised etc...


Ah, see your point. I'll pm alexkp and Ted.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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www.justgiving.com/yaac/donate/

looks like it gets you to a page where you can set up an account to donate to the Yorks Air Ambulance Charity.

The money gets to them every week. There are charges, but also the tax reclaim.

Credit Card Debit Card
Donation £10 £10
Tax Reclaim £2.82 £2.82
Transaction fee 5% £0.64 £0.64
VAT @ 17.5% £0.11 £0.11
Credit Card fee @ 1.4% £0.14 -
Debit card fee:
22p for Switch/Maestro/Solo
25p for Visa/Delta - £0.22
Total cost to charity £0.89 £0.97
Net donation £11.93 £11.85


Edited by tallbloke on Thursday 21st September 08:21

mel

10,168 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Not being a killjoy here and I know that it was the Yorkshire air ambulance that did the business for Richard Hammond BUT there are dozens of other air ambulance trusts around the country all of which perform an equally important and all of which as PHers anyone of us could need to call upon one day. In the same way that many many yachtsman give to the RNLI personally I would like to see a central trust from which donations are distrubuted equally to all the air ambulances. From a purely selfish point of a view I am far far more likely to require the assistance of the Kent Air Ambulance than the Yorkshire one and as such would rather they had any of my charitable donation. IMO if Pistonheads as a site has any intention of becoming involved in any sort of collection or charitable event with the proceeds going to Air Ambulances (and personally I would not object to this at all) I would like to see the moneys divided up around the country.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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The Air Ambulance and Mountain Rescue services around the country do a fantastic job. During the day on New Years Eve a couple of years ago I was walking with a group of friends in the Lake District (up the direct path in Langdale to Pavey Arc if you know it) when one of our group collapsed in a fit.

The mountain rescue team arrived on foot from 3 directions within 30 minutes and a helicopter arrived 5 minutes later. Incredibly quick response time! The path climbs up a gully so has no flat area to land on, so the pilot hovered with the front tips of the skids on the path, the paramedic climbed out onto the skids, collected his kit and stepped off onto the path. The helicopter then set down on a sloping field a few hundred metres away. Very impressive flying indeed. Within 90 minutes of his collapse, my friend was in hospital.

Yes, these people should be centrally funded but any further contributions we can make will always be helpful.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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mel said:
IMO if Pistonheads as a site has any intention of becoming involved in any sort of collection or charitable event with the proceeds going to Air Ambulances (and personally I would not object to this at all) I would like to see the moneys divided up around the country.


Mel, it's already underway. If you like, why not donate half of the figure you were considering to the air ambulance of your choice and half to the PH - Hamster Yorks air ambulance appeal here:

www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=309266&f=141&h=0

thumbup

mel

10,168 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Well it appears to be too late and Yorkshire will get the lot, I think this idea has been rushed in a knee jerk reaction to last nights event and not thought through properly. The RUSS charity mentioned earlier in the thread appears to give money to various Air Ambulances and not just one, I fear that this close to BT&P we run a serious risk of "appeal fatigue" with people giving to the Yorkshire Trust as a reaction to Richard Hammonds tragic accident and other equally important causes could suffer.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Sorry you feel that way about it Mel. From my perspective, I think that since this is a specific collection for a specific charity which helped a specific petrolhead, it's fitting and right to donate directly to it. Of course all Air Ambulances are deserving causes, and I'm certain they have specific appeals and fundraising events too. As suggested earlier why not split your donation as you see fit, rather than discouraging others from supporting a worthy cause?

ali_kat

31,990 posts

221 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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mel said:
Well it appears to be too late and Yorkshire will get the lot, I think this idea has been rushed in a knee jerk reaction to last nights event and not thought through properly. The RUSS charity mentioned earlier in the thread appears to give money to various Air Ambulances and not just one, I fear that this close to BT&P we run a serious risk of "appeal fatigue" with people giving to the Yorkshire Trust as a reaction to Richard Hammonds tragic accident and other equally important causes could suffer.


Good point Mel, we have reached the initial target, maybe now it could be changed to go to ALL? I dunno, dunno how the page works, if you can change it.

But BTaP will have its own site, so anything raised there can be dealt with to all??

smilerbaker

4,071 posts

215 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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mel said:
Well it appears to be too late and Yorkshire will get the lot, I think this idea has been rushed in a knee jerk reaction to last nights event and not thought through properly. The RUSS charity mentioned earlier in the thread appears to give money to various Air Ambulances and not just one, I fear that this close to BT&P we run a serious risk of "appeal fatigue" with people giving to the Yorkshire Trust as a reaction to Richard Hammonds tragic accident and other equally important causes could suffer.


Think you have missed the point mel, the money rasied is going to the air ambulance that helped save hamsters life, its more constructive then sending a card or flowers to the hospital.

As I live in switzerland then it wont help me in the slightest, but thats not the point!