RE: Nissan 350Z GT-S Concept

RE: Nissan 350Z GT-S Concept

Wednesday 25th October 2006

Nissan 350Z GT-S Concept

Will this 382bhp supercharged concept become a car you can buy? Brett Fraser drives it and finds out.


Nissan 350Z GT-S Concept
Nissan 350Z GT-S Concept

The noise is incredible. An alarming mixture of shriek, howl, whistle, scream and scratch. And it’s very, very loud. Loud enough to be heard by the car in front and sufficiently menacing to have the driver edge over to allow you room to pass lest he (or she) be punished by the demonic force lurking behind.

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When you drive the Nissan 350Z GT-S – the ‘concept’ car initiated by the UK PR team and developed by Nissan engineers from Cranfield in their spare time – the racket from its supercharger dominates the driving experience and scares other road users. Truth be told, on long journeys you’ll flick the blower off to stop the noise sawing through your skull, but when conditions are right its all-pervading sense of mechanical violence serves as the ideal soundtrack to the 25 per cent increase in power that it cajoles from the Zed’s 3.5-litre V6 engine.

Nissan might build it

Just the din that the GT-S makes would send many car company execs scurrying away to take cover behind EC rulebooks, but the rebellious spirit within Nissan UK at the moment is hard at work trying to make this car a production reality. When we say ‘production’ we don’t mean squeezing them out in their thousands like Micras from Sunderland, but something more like the 50 a year you can build up and get through SVA (Single Vehicle Approval) tests rather than having to undertake full-scale homologation.

It’s far from a done deal that anything at all will happen with the GT-S, but there’s plenty of positive pressure being applied from within the company and even if it’s impossible to sell the whole package complete, the components are largely off-the-shelf items that could be retailed individually – the supercharger is from the Swiss firm Novidem, for instance, and Strosek is the source of the bodykit. The Bilstein dampers are the trick bits – developed by Bilstein and Nissan especially for British back roads – but now that their settings have been calibrated it’s a comparatively simple operation to produce them in small numbers.

Charging on

The massive intercooler, barely contained by the mesh grille in the nose of the GT-S, gives you some indication of a serious upgrade in power; lift the bonnet and shining pipework and induction gubbins and purposeful-looking blue hoses confirm that picture. The addition of the blower raises power from 300bhp to 380bhp and swells the torque output by 53lb-ft so that it peaks at 313lb ft.

Those are big gains, yet curiously the GT-S doesn’t feel as impressively well hung as the figures suggest. You sure as hell know it’s powered by a meaty motor, but the rocketship effect you might expect from all the extra ponies doesn’t materialise.

In part that’s because the Zed’s V6 has never been a rev-head, getting gruff and uncultured at the top-end, denying the big Nissan the manic high-revving energy that most of us associate with travelling insanely fast. Instead it’s got genuine brawn that bulges its way to the surface between 3,000 and 6,000rpm and makes the 3.5-litre V6 feel as though it has twice the cubic capacity and a couple more cylinders; to begin with you might mistake this beefy delivery for lazy performance, yet if you clock-watch the speedo or (on a circuit, of course) hunt down other sports cars you know to be serious players, then the GT-S’s performance proves itself to up there in the junior exotica league.

Another way to assess what difference the supercharger makes is to switch it off using the innocuous little button to the right and in front of the gearlever. Cruise along for a while – in blessed silence – without the supercharger engaged and you begin to understand why the standard Zed has been so well received and you’ll probably find it decently brisk. Stab the button again and, after a momentary pause in proceedings as the supercharger ties itself into the induction loop, there’s a substantially and deeply satisfying wallop as your pace picks up aggressively. No doubts now about the effectiveness of supercharging, while turning on the boost in this way also amplifies your perception of the car’s performance.

For the record, and according to Nissan’s claims, the GT-S scorches from zero to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds, a clear second quicker than the standard car, while the 0-100mph time falls by an impressive 2.5 seconds.

Bruiser

Everything about the GT-S (and the Zed in general, to a lesser degree) shouts old-fashioned bruiser, in a positive way. The burly mid-range, the robust action of the gearchange and the clutch pedal, the beefy steering and woofly exhaust note, none of it is the stuff of slick, modern, computer-honed sports cars – that counts as a Very Good Thing in my book, even if over long distances the hardcore nature of the beast can grind you down a bit.

The ride, too, can rankle over rougher surfaces when it pounds and thumps, occasionally becoming so out of sorts that the tyres hop sideways a couple of inches through bumpy corners. Yet that’s just a worst-case scenario (though nevertheless one to be wary of), and for the most part the GT-S’s chassis is grippy and blessed with the fine balance and predictable on-the-limit behaviour of a well-sorted front-engined rear-driver. Sideways merchants and drifters will love the fact that the bigger outputs make it even easier to punt the tail out of line, while the rest of us will be grateful that the Zed’s traction and stability control system can be turned on as well as off.

Mean demeanour

Nissan’s choice of black paintwork for the GT-S was inspired, for it contributes suitably sinister visuals to go with the eerie hollering of the supercharger. Even the gold-coloured 18in Volk alloys have a slightly dusty, grimy finish to them, adding to the impression that this is a car made purely for the purpose of going quickly rather than showboating.

Nissan reckons that with the supercharger switched out then the GT-S could be used as your daily wheels. The only trouble is that pressing the supercharger button is one of those little automotive addictions and the moment you do that all pretence of mild manners and everyday acceptability vanish; the car turns into a bit of a monster too.

Author
Discussion

dbroughton

Original Poster:

304 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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maybe a little too close to the new Skylines perfomance for Nissan to give it the nod

jimpson

307 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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looks awesome

mnewlyn

413 posts

251 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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clearly still to be proven; a car for people with something to prove.

john_r

8,353 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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confused
Doesn't make sense for Nissan to retail this with the new Skyline apparently just around the corner?

Can you imagine the warranty nightmare if the dealers were authorised to sell and bolt on all the extras?!

And why on earth would Nissan use a 2003 '53' plate car for the 'journalists' to play with? I think the bit saying "initiated by the UK PR team and developed by Nissan engineers from Cranfield in their spare time" sums it up... PR stunt is written all over this car!

I think the chances of Nissan authorising bolt-ons to this level and/or retailing it as a finished model are as likely as Aston Martin releasing a diesel people carrier!

However, if they do - then good for them. I wish more mainstream manufacturers were as brave as the likes of Mitsubishi when it comes to pushing the envelope with modifications and warranties.

Edited by john_r on Wednesday 25th October 12:10


Edited by john_r on Wednesday 25th October 12:10

g_angel007

2 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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No mate - the car is a MY2006... the number plate is one of their fleet of "cherished" numbers, which was previously seen on a Nismo kitted Chilli red model...

calumcousins

1,970 posts

218 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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im not keen on that bodykit, but do like the idea of 380bhp+ in a completely standard looking 350z...

bye bye 911's...!

scoobiewrx

4,863 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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I'll take two please

t0ny99

1,238 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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g_angel007 said:
No mate - the car is a MY2006... the number plate is one of their fleet of "cherished" numbers, which was previously seen on a Nismo kitted Chilli red model...



Zackly!
DVLA said:
Date of First Registration 30 09 2005

john_r

8,353 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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t0ny99 said:
g_angel007 said:
No mate - the car is a MY2006... the number plate is one of their fleet of "cherished" numbers, which was previously seen on a Nismo kitted Chilli red model...



Zackly!
DVLA said:
Date of First Registration 30 09 2005


Fair enough re the registration... I stand corrected (a regular occurrence!).

ASBO

26,140 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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have to say the idea of this seems very appealing.

Switch off thepower for wconomy and emmissions regs/drive by noise regs and turn it on for some serious naughty performance.

could easily see this being the way forward for performance cars as the government continues to crack down on big engined /pollutant/loud/uneconomical/anycarthatsnotamicra cars.

I say good on em

Top Trump

1,588 posts

221 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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I don't know how much it is but for around £40K you could get the mental and throughly sorted Litchfield Type 25 Impreza. An absolute bargain for what is, in terms of it's performance, a supercar. The Evo feature a couple of months ago had me frothing at the mouth.

Nismo'D

198 posts

221 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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Rumour has it that the GT-S would be an additional 10k, bringing it upto the region of 35-38k depending on whether you went standard or gt pack.

macdeb

8,510 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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Well, with the forthcoming demise of TVR, I'd consider one.

Digsy

104 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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Top Trump said:
I don't know how much it is but for around £40K you could get the mental and throughly sorted Litchfield Type 25 Impreza. An absolute bargain for what is, in terms of it's performance, a supercar. The Evo feature a couple of months ago had me frothing at the mouth.



Completely different type of car though to the 4wd rice rockets. Has some style for starters! Oh, and wouldn't see which way the Lichfield went on a wet road. Horses for courses.

Peter255

53 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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For the record:

The new Type 25bow
415bhp @ 6,500rpm (400bhp from 5,800rpm - 7,000rpm)
570Nm / 420lbft @ 3,800rpm (300lbft from 3,000rpm)
8,000rpm Redline
304bhp/toneek
0 - 60mph in 3.7seceek
0 - 100mph in 8.7seceek
157mph limited top speed (175mph gearing, taller gearing also under review)

£39,995 OTR

No comparison in speed or handling in ANY condition. Wet / Dry, straights / corners, whatever situation the Type 25 would murder the 350.

Peter
P.S. The 350 is still a nice car just not quite in ths same league!


Edited by Peter255 on Wednesday 25th October 18:48

Foxy F

1 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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Don't forget that sheer speed isn't the only criteria for a fun drive - if it was, all us poor Lotus Elise owners would be weeping into our speedometers.

Top Trump

1,588 posts

221 months

Thursday 26th October 2006
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Peter255 said:
For the record:

The new Type 25bow
415bhp @ 6,500rpm (400bhp from 5,800rpm - 7,000rpm)
570Nm / 420lbft @ 3,800rpm (300lbft from 3,000rpm)
8,000rpm Redline
304bhp/toneek
0 - 60mph in 3.7seceek
0 - 100mph in 8.7seceek
157mph limited top speed (175mph gearing, taller gearing also under review)

£39,995 OTR

No comparison in speed or handling in ANY condition. Wet / Dry, straights / corners, whatever situation the Type 25 would murder the 350.

Peter
P.S. The 350 is still a nice car just not quite in ths same league!


Edited by Peter255 on Wednesday 25th October 18:48


Those are awesome figures for an off-the-shelf £40k car. The thing is this car is not just some drag strip special but a very capable allrounder. The torque figures are particularly impressive for a turbocharged car as is the way it has been put together with input from Cosworth and Powerstation. I think it's immense. I'd have one in black.

nattcharles

1 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th October 2006
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Nothing new there. Companies such as Vortech, Comptech, Stillen have all been doing supercharger kits for the 350Z for ages and they all look a lot neater than Nissan's effort once installed. The only problem with supercharging the VQ35DE engine in the 350Z is the conrods are a weak point and have a bad habbit of folding up on cars with more than 380bhp.

tvrtastic

11 posts

225 months

Friday 27th October 2006
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mnewlyn said:
clearly still to be proven; a car for people with something to prove.

tvrtastic

11 posts

225 months

Friday 27th October 2006
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Surely running around in a Nissan you've got nothing to prove!.And a 350Z is a well proven bit of kit.Well done to the boys in Cranfield.