How do you demist windscreens?!
How do you demist windscreens?!
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TonyHetherington

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32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Ok, I'm confused.

I always thought that condensation on a windscreen was due to temperature difference. So now in winter it's when you get in your car and the body heat causes condensation on the inside of the windscreen, because of the cold outside. Vice versa in Dubai, where you get condensation on outside of windscreen because air-con inside is so cold.

Right?

Ok, so WHY does the "nuke from orbit" buttons on Mercs, Fords etc (the blast-the-windscreen-as-it's-misty button) give out hot air?

Also, my bro said to me the other day when trying to demist a screen he uses hot air to do it, not cold. I'm confuuuuuuuuuuuuuused!

So, what IS the demisting process?! (no flash quick-clear screens here please people, you Ford drivers!).

marctwo

3,666 posts

290 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Maybe the hot air heats up the glass so the warm air (and water vapour) inside the car no longer consenses?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Have always used the max cold air to windscreen and open the windows slightly

TonyHetherington

Original Poster:

32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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But why would that get rid of the existing water? It would have to evapourate it to get rid, surely?!

sarkmeister

1,700 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Ive always thought hot air was best.

As far as i know the water vapour condenses on the windscreen because its cold (bedue to the cold air outside). Hot air heats up the windscreen, thus evaporating the air.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Not sure but I think it's more to do with the differential temp of the inside and outside of the glass.

Maybe it's just like breathing on a pane of glass which causes it to mist up from it being colder on one side than the other. Once the glass loses temp the misting disappears confused

TonyHetherington

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32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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But in using hot air, you are creating MORE of a difference, are you not?

Oh hang on, but what you are doing is making the windscreen the same temperature on both sides....hmmm, maybe that's why it works?!

StuB

6,695 posts

269 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Hot air heats up the inner surface and reduces the tendency of the moist air to condense.

Even better is to blast with hot with air con on as that dries the air as it blows up and clears the car fastest.

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Pod's handy hints.

1) Use a demisting product (the Halfords one is OK)
2) Use air con on full whack (helps reduce moisture)
3) Leave some silica gel bags in the car (ask you IT bods for some)
4) Leave the window open ajar...
5) Get one of those little pad things

Philbes

4,886 posts

264 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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StuB said:
Hot air heats up the inner surface and reduces the tendency of the moist air to condense.

Even better is to blast with hot with air con on as that dries the air as it blows up and clears the car fastest.

That's how I do it - the speed of demisting always impresses friends that don't have air-con in their cars.
Is it better to press the recirculating button as well to prevent more damp air bring drawn in from outside?

FHCNICK

1,376 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Philbes said:
StuB said:
Hot air heats up the inner surface and reduces the tendency of the moist air to condense.

Even better is to blast with hot with air con on as that dries the air as it blows up and clears the car fastest.

That's how I do it - the speed of demisting always impresses friends that don't have air-con in their cars.
Is it better to press the recirculating button as well to prevent more damp air bring drawn in from outside?


I just clicky the heated front screen button

MikeyT

18,424 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Our Mini with A/C will clear the screen in a matter of seconds (literally) - from cold ...

My old Passat with no A/C - give it five miles and I might be able to see where I'm going ...

tigerk

4,898 posts

286 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Try turning the aircon on for a couple of minutes. It dries the air and clears the screen in no time.

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

272 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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StuB said:
Hot air heats up the inner surface and reduces the tendency of the moist air to condense.

Even better is to blast with hot with air con on as that dries the air as it blows up and clears the car fastest.


Spot on. Both AirCon or Heater on Max's main impact is that they dry the surface. So blowing warme but dry air over the surface will be best as the warm, dry air can hold more evapourated moisture.

Warming up the screen will enable you to prevent it from continuing to mist up.

That's why blasting air, either hot or dry (aircon) clears a screen quicker than embedded heating elements.

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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As a sort of OT, why is it only Fords that I've seen heated front windscreens on?

phil1979

3,671 posts

245 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Does anyone do what I do.... to the amusement of the neighbours...

Hold your breath for as long as possible when you get in the car!!!!! And if you have to breathe, breathe towards the floor! I'm convinced it works!!!

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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john_p said:
As a sort of OT, why is it only Fords that I've seen heated front windscreens on?


Cerbera has one...

mr_tony

6,351 posts

299 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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FHCNICK said:

I just clicky the heated front screen button


Me too - and that heaats the front screen, my side windows and the rear screen.
Never seen this on any other car and it's a shame as it's fantastic!

TonyHetherington

Original Poster:

32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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teacher shout RTFM
tony said:
(no flash quick-clear screens here please people, you Ford drivers!).

mr_tony

6,351 posts

299 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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TonyHetherington said:
teacher shout RTFM
tony said:
(no flash quick-clear screens here please people, you Ford drivers!).


Ford - wash your mouth out mr!

Hot air is the one required - a hot windscreen will not condense the water droplets on it.
Of course any moving airstream will do to evaporate the water on the screen, but making the screen warm helps even more to keep it clear.

I've found in general having used many products to demist windscreens in my MG, that none of them work very well. Best thing is a chammy leather in the footwell for when you need it!