Race numbers on the road?

Race numbers on the road?

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cinqster

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1,057 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Aren't they still illegal? I thought they were considered by the Police to promote street racing and either had to be removed, or crossed out for road use?

I only ask because there are loads of those green and yellow mini things whizzing around my area with them on!

John S.

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Foxtons estate agents cars, I wondered about those too, they have had numbers on for at least a year and there are loads London village.

mutley

3,178 posts

260 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Always believed that if you use your raod car on track that the number has to be obscured, either by removal or by a crossing out.

I believe thst only rally cars are exempt from this as road sections are part of it, and if they do break any laws, then they are easily traced.

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Aren't they still illegal? I thought they were considered by the Police to promote street racing and either had to be removed, or crossed out for road use?

I only ask because there are loads of those green and yellow mini things whizzing around my area with them on!

John S.


They'll be estate agents of the variety Scummus Foxtonious...

Matt.

Mel

10,168 posts

276 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Deffinitely illegal. I got pulled on a bike once for exactly that excuse, mind you what about BT, McNicolas, Transco etc etc that all have big numbers on the backs of their vans ?

mrsd

1,502 posts

254 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Not a F**tons fan then Matt ? I'd be interested to hear your views -not on PH though- estate agents tend to suffer from litigation contagiosa.

chrisjl

785 posts

283 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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There are two potential scenarios here:-
- Non race car with "racing" number
- Real race car, being used on the road.

I can't comment on the (il)legality of the first case(which is almost certainly the category all your "green and yellow mini things" fall into).

As for the second option - I believe the RACMSA (and probably others) don't like their members using race cars on the road with the numbers still intact, as they don't want any street-racing associations. (I can't quantify "don't like" - it might mean losing your racing license)

cotty

39,586 posts

285 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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I dont really understand why numbers are illegal on cars, the police have big numbers on their roofs for identification buy helicoptor.

Anyway anyway a couple of strips of electrical tape are not hoing to obscure 1 foot tall numbers

MilnerR

8,273 posts

259 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Let me get this straight, it's ok to drive around in some luminous green MAX'd out piece of crap (full body kit LED on wiper blades, bean can exhaust etc ), but its considered potential illegal to drive aroud in a classic sports car with a number on the side??? Which vehicle is most likley to promote road racing?
Really having trouble seeing the logic in this.....

cinqster

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1,057 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Ah...Foxton's; that would explain why I keep seeing them in local property photos!

They certainly look like a racing colour scheme to me. I assumed it was some kind of Mini limited production affair - where, if you bought one, you'd be eligible for a cheap race series complete with matching luggage, free champers etc!

Who's going to inform the cops then?!

John S.

GreenV8S

30,213 posts

285 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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It's likely to attract attention from BiB but not against any laws I'm aware of. However, the terms of the competition license issued by the MSA specifically say that competition numbers must be removed or covered up on public roads, and the MSA can impose fines or revoke the competition license if anyone is reported for this. So you are unlikely to see genuine competitors with numbers on, but more likely to see a max power muppet who thinks it looks cool.

spnracing

1,554 posts

272 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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I've got a copy of an Autocar article on this very subject somewhere.

There is nothing in the RTA to state that you can't have numbers on your car - so its not illegal.

However MSA guidelines state that competition numbers should be covered up unless you are actually competing (e.g. road section betwen stages on a rally).

viper

10,005 posts

274 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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I know someone who has driven nearly 2 years on the road with large race numbers on the door and never had a problem, with just a 10mm black line going through them which can easily be removed at the track

Simonelite501

1,440 posts

269 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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I have white squares permiently attached to the side of my road legal Hill climb/Sprint car but remove the numbers on the road, but what about timming strut? Mine is bolted on to the front and although not imposible, to remove it after each meeting wolud prove to be a considerable pain in the nether regions.

robkola

1,589 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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At least half of these should be off the road once the property market crashes . . . Sorry to any PH Estate Agents - nothing personal - just no respect for that lot.

"Yes - it's a house - that's £800K please"


plotloss said: quote]

They'll be estate agents of the variety Scummus Foxtonious...

Matt.


alunr

1,672 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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cinqster said: Ah...Foxton's; that would explain why I keep seeing them in local property photos!

They certainly look like a racing colour scheme to me. I assumed it was some kind of Mini limited production affair - where, if you bought one, you'd be eligible for a cheap race series complete with matching luggage, free champers etc!

Who's going to inform the cops then?!

John S.





Have any of you lot wondered why they've painted a Mini in Lotus colours???

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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Austin 7?

RichB

51,620 posts

285 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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alunr said:

cinqster said: Ah...Foxton's...

Have any of you lot wondered why they've painted a Mini in Lotus colours???

Presumably that is Foxton's company colours? R...

eric mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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MSA advice - remove or cross through competition numbers before venturing onto the public highway. Leaving white squares or roundels in place is not a problem.

andywaterfall

948 posts

285 months

Tuesday 25th March 2003
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eric mc said: MSA advice - remove or cross through competition numbers before venturing onto the public highway. Leaving white squares or roundels in place is not a problem.


That's what I thought until I got a boll%cking from a steward while leaving Lydden last year with my numbers crossed out.

Coincidentally, I'm one of those blokes mentioned above who bought a Mini with a race series all thrown in (John Cooper Challenge)- and I'm an estate agent (but not with Foxtons!)