RE: Tamora Demo
Thursday 25th October 2001
TVR Tamora
We get our grubby mits on the newest TVR
Discussion
What I would also add is that ferrari have bought their reputation with the soul of their cars in the fifties: they were nothing but an engine (which recquired tuning each 200 miles by the way) with cheesy-like chassis and their road holding was at the time much worse than the contemporary Maseratis
Now what I mean is that TVR deserves to outsell ferrari which are nothing to my eyes but symbols of social status: does anyone out here with a ferrari drive it like TVRs are driven? No of course because 99% of ferrari owners don't drive their cars, they leave it in the garage beside their S-class.
ferrari is no more than the shop window of Fiat
in one word f*ck ferrari
Now what I mean is that TVR deserves to outsell ferrari which are nothing to my eyes but symbols of social status: does anyone out here with a ferrari drive it like TVRs are driven? No of course because 99% of ferrari owners don't drive their cars, they leave it in the garage beside their S-class.
ferrari is no more than the shop window of Fiat
in one word f*ck ferrari
Brilliant! My dealer reckons I'll get mine early December, I can't wait. I've been waiting since Day 1 of last year's Motor Show and the car's got better and better every time TVR have 'made a change'.
At least this means the Dealers are getting their cars so us customers are getting very close........
At least this means the Dealers are getting their cars so us customers are getting very close........
Once again, an excellent write up Ted. I look forward to driving a Tamora once the demonstrator arrives. Styling wise - I feel that I can comment. No, I don't like that back end. It looks like they used a Victoria bath tub as a mould, popped it out and turned it upside down - voila, one back end. It also takes some styling cues from the Elise. The car also looks very small compared to the likes of Griffs and Chimps - but I confess to never having seen one yet in the GRP. The lack of front and rear overhang perhaps give this impression - or are we looking at something the size of an MGF? Can someone who has seen one comment?
I am looking to change my car for another TVR and it has taken me some time to learn to like the Tuscan - but I am just about there now. With the Tamora, I think that it will be an acquired taste stylewise - but if it drives well then I expect it will convert previous TVR owners. Pricewise, it is not significantly less than a Tuscan with only a £3-4000 difference. Given that the Tuscan has been with us for sometime and they have had the opportunity to iron out faults - I feel that TVR will find the Tamora a more difficult car to market - especially as they are after the quality and style conscious SLK/Boxster buyers who may not tolerate teething troubles so well. Time will tell - but good luck Mr Wheeler and thank you for bringing us another new TVR.
I am looking to change my car for another TVR and it has taken me some time to learn to like the Tuscan - but I am just about there now. With the Tamora, I think that it will be an acquired taste stylewise - but if it drives well then I expect it will convert previous TVR owners. Pricewise, it is not significantly less than a Tuscan with only a £3-4000 difference. Given that the Tuscan has been with us for sometime and they have had the opportunity to iron out faults - I feel that TVR will find the Tamora a more difficult car to market - especially as they are after the quality and style conscious SLK/Boxster buyers who may not tolerate teething troubles so well. Time will tell - but good luck Mr Wheeler and thank you for bringing us another new TVR.
I think its a good thing that tvr have tried to move on in the design of thier cars ( make no mistake the griff, chim and cerb rules0, but times have to move on (not like marcos or morgan's). The rear end will grow on most people. The thing with the tamora, its it looks a little bit to cute for a tvr, I think its a bit to small, sort of like an mg.
Tvr are tring to target a wider public with this car (hairdressers anyone ?)
only time will tell. I personally do like it, but I don't think I will be ordering one.....
Tvr are tring to target a wider public with this car (hairdressers anyone ?)
only time will tell. I personally do like it, but I don't think I will be ordering one.....
It is a small car - quite a bit shorter than my Chimp. It looks tiny compared to the Griff, even, but it's a lot bigger than the Elise, which will make it user-friendly. It isn't a go-kart like the Elise and VX220 - the rear end is less than perfect, but so is the nasty front end of the Tuscan. To me, there are two VERY important changes - the first is that the Tamora actually seems to handle as well as it goes. I love my Chimp, but I don't like the skippy feeling the back end has round fast bumpy corners, which makes it a bit point and squirt, rather than flowing through a series of bends.
Secondly, the build quality is way ahead of my Chimp. I was amazed at the pre-production car's solid interior looks and feel, and the way everything hangs together very simply and neatly. I think we should give TVR credit for raising their production values.
I am not too worried aboout engine problems either - this is a tested engine now, and if its true that the majority of Tuscan engine problems have been camshaft wear, then the more relaxed 3.6 engine will have different cams, hopefully from a more rliable supplier, and TVR will have learnt their lesson. The S6 has been around for a few years now, and is probably well sorted by now. And, there's a 2 year warranty on the engine!!
I can't wait to get mine, because I know it will be a fantastic, driveable car - that's what I personally want. I'm prepared to compromise on the styling, because in the end, a sports car is defined far more on it's speed, handling and general dynamics, as well as looks, and the Tamora is, by general consenus, the BEST handling car in it's class. That makes it more fun and safer, too. If you don't like the car, don't buy it, but don't criticise TVR for not building the car you want - let's stop navel gazing about the shortcomings of the Tamora, and take a more balanced overall view of a new car, setting a new, higher standard for TVR - It seems that this car is BETTER than a Boxster in most of the vital sports car attributes - I do not commute into the City, so I couldn't care less about clutch weight in town traffic, sat-nav, overall "packaging"etc: Give me 350bhp, class leading dynamics, gorgeous noise, looks to be noticed, that'll do for me!!
Secondly, the build quality is way ahead of my Chimp. I was amazed at the pre-production car's solid interior looks and feel, and the way everything hangs together very simply and neatly. I think we should give TVR credit for raising their production values.
I am not too worried aboout engine problems either - this is a tested engine now, and if its true that the majority of Tuscan engine problems have been camshaft wear, then the more relaxed 3.6 engine will have different cams, hopefully from a more rliable supplier, and TVR will have learnt their lesson. The S6 has been around for a few years now, and is probably well sorted by now. And, there's a 2 year warranty on the engine!!
I can't wait to get mine, because I know it will be a fantastic, driveable car - that's what I personally want. I'm prepared to compromise on the styling, because in the end, a sports car is defined far more on it's speed, handling and general dynamics, as well as looks, and the Tamora is, by general consenus, the BEST handling car in it's class. That makes it more fun and safer, too. If you don't like the car, don't buy it, but don't criticise TVR for not building the car you want - let's stop navel gazing about the shortcomings of the Tamora, and take a more balanced overall view of a new car, setting a new, higher standard for TVR - It seems that this car is BETTER than a Boxster in most of the vital sports car attributes - I do not commute into the City, so I couldn't care less about clutch weight in town traffic, sat-nav, overall "packaging"etc: Give me 350bhp, class leading dynamics, gorgeous noise, looks to be noticed, that'll do for me!!
The front is nice, the interior is better than the Tuscan's and nearer the the acknowledged "king of interiors" the cerbie. The rear end is awful and the reason that if I was in the market for a TVR again I would not buy it. That along with the Tuscan S makes me wonder what's going on with TVR's designers as they have obviously lost the plot with how to design the rear of a car.
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