Dropped kerb question.
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morningside

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Sunday 8th April 2007
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I hope the picture explains it. The offending? car is parked opposite us but beside a dropped kerb (the kerb runs the whole length of both properties) and makes reversing out quite difficult as the road is narrow and also a bus route.


Two simple questions:

1) Is he breaking the law?
2) Does it make any difference if the parked car is the owner to any of the houses?


Added:
I have looked at this:www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/40018--g.htm#86 and it does mention about parking with consent of the owner BUT the place he is parked is normally over towards his neighbours side. Also its a bit late and legal stuff blows my brain.



Edited by morningside on Sunday 8th April 21:24

rich 36

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289 months

Sunday 8th April 2007
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Not sure he's legally in the wrong
but I can imagine its just another example of ignorant parking
opposite your access (if I've read it right)

TBH though thins can look different from their perspective,
in that a tight manouvere from your view
looks quite different and perhaps even spacious over there

esselte

14,626 posts

290 months

Sunday 8th April 2007
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morningside said:
and makes reversing out quite difficult as the road is narrow and also a bus route.




Wouldn't it be better to reverse in to your drive?

morningside

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Sunday 8th April 2007
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I would but the Scenic is touching the bumper of the BMW and reversing in makes it very awkward.

rich 36

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Sunday 8th April 2007
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Which is what I'm doing now usually for much the same reason,
and its better on the engine
(less work on it when its cold)

Tunku

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251 months

Sunday 8th April 2007
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I found one way of solving this problem. Son of houseowner opposite always parked on the very narrow road opposite my drive, till I forgot he was there one morning and dented his door when I reversed out of my drive. Insurance sorted it and I felt a right tt, but he never parked there again. Oops!
He does still speak to me though

rich 36

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289 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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Tunku said:
I found one way of solving this problem. Son of houseowner opposite always parked on the very narrow road opposite my drive, till I forgot he was there one morning and dented his door when I reversed out of my drive. Insurance sorted it and I felt a right tt, but he never parked there again. Oops!
He does still speak to me though




That would be the next logical step,

if a slope is involved in your favour (ie down)
a runaway bike Wheelie bin would do though

streaky

19,311 posts

272 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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No wrong in law. If it is your neighbour's car, maybe a word with him would address your concerns. A few weeks ago I heard a motyorist complaining that some had taken his parking place (in the road in which I live). The point was that he lives in a different road about 200 yards away, has a wife and two children each with their own cars, and on-proterty parking at the front and rear! Parking can be an emotive issue, but it's nothing to shoot anyone about () - Streaky

rich 36

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Monday 9th April 2007
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I'm in something of a dispute over parking along with a large number of my neighbours,
is it indeed am emotive issue.

On the one hand a friendly approach to sorting it might not entirely work out,

so do you involve Police with obstruction,
or is a more direct message the way to go.

morningside

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Monday 9th April 2007
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So it is quite legal to park at any dropped kerb then?
What about obstruction? Well not as such but it is very difficult to negotiate around.

Oh and yes the 1st thing will be a friendly talk but TBH he is the worlds most miserable basket.

puffpuff

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Monday 9th April 2007
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Have a word with your councillor and local BiB. Explain the situation and ask if it would be possible to have a single white line painted opposite your driveway where the two dropped kerbs are.

The single white line is an advisory 'No waiting'.

I've helped get them done around here for similar reasons.

rich 36

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Monday 9th April 2007
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puffpuff said:
Have a word with your councillor and local BiB. Explain the situation and ask if it would be possible to have a single white line painted opposite your driveway where the two dropped kerbs are.

The single white line is an advisory 'No waiting'.

I've helped get them done around here for similar reasons.


Thats a good idea,
I'm against lines of any sort restricting parking beyond disabled, but
it might be a suggestion

who me ?

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235 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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1) - Locally have heard that it's part of the aggreement in looking at whether planning application will be granted
2) - but again same source says that owner can park there.
But then again same source says parking opposite another dropped kerb is also a no -no --and this is from someone who has gone down the legal route (or says he has )


Have you asked LA about rights you might get with a dropped kerb - after all you need ( in most places as far as i know ) planning permission to alter the kerb - and of course paid a fee for the planning application. Would advise against the "runaway wheelie bin" idea- when you get to that stage the offender becomes the victim and you start to lose sympathy.

morningside

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Monday 9th April 2007
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Update: I have spoke to the chap who owns the drive and initially he came across VERY hostile but I think I have (hopefully) defused the situation but he is the type to do things just to wind people up.

Planning permission has been granted on both sides and they are all above board (if thats the word).
All done roughly at the same time. I would have thought that although you are (as far as I know) allowed to park outside your own dropped kerb and also anyone with permission there must be cases like ours that cause problems as well.

Wings

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238 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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Planning permission may have been granted, but that still does not stop any other vehicle from parking, for the only time there might be an offence is if the vehicle is causing an obstruction, and to that end any vehicle parked on the highway could. So no driver/vehicle owner has a divine right to park on the highway, nor stop another vehicle owner from doing the same.

streaky

19,311 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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puffpuff said:
Have a word with your councillor and local BiB. Explain the situation and ask if it would be possible to have a single white line painted opposite your driveway where the two dropped kerbs are.

The single white line is an advisory 'No waiting'.

I've helped get them done around here for similar reasons.
Only applies on the side where the line is painted, so not much help in this case, and, as only advisory, not a lot of help in most cases - Streaky

puffpuff

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Tuesday 10th April 2007
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streaky said:
puffpuff said:
Have a word with your councillor and local BiB. Explain the situation and ask if it would be possible to have a single white line painted opposite your driveway where the two dropped kerbs are.

The single white line is an advisory 'No waiting'.

I've helped get them done around here for similar reasons.
Only applies on the side where the line is painted, so not much help in this case, and, as only advisory, not a lot of help in most cases - Streaky


Would be very helpful here if painted across the two dropped kerbs opposite 'my driveway' in original post - which is what I suggested.

Agreed only advisory but BiB here take greater interest in vehicles parked on them and have been known to ticket drivers who persistently park on them.

We have one blind bend where parked cars caused a problem. Advisory white lines each side stopped it totally so maybe more effective than you think.