Top front ball joint

Top front ball joint

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Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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I'm sure there would be no problem filing a bit off the upper wishbone.
I'd had enough this afternoon and it just felt too much like hard work, especially when I can go and get the balljoint that fits properly for a tenner !

Chris

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Sutton Auto Factors Various branches Nottinghamshire / Lincolnshire Quinton Hazell Part QSJ1004S £9.10 + vat and in stock.
Hopefully a bit of light at the end of the tunnel and not a train coming !

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Could be a train!
'Yes Sir, Quinton Hazell, got one of those in stock'

My Dad went to fetch it for me this afternoon.
Its not Quinton Hazell.
It doesn't fit.

Nuff said.

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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Called them today.
They are ordering the Quinton hazell one for thursday.
Nice people furious

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Got QH balljoint.
Guess what - looks like they are now using a different supplier - the cast metal moulding is now very similar to the genuine saab article, and doesn't fit.
Looks like I'm going to start filing a bit off my top wishbone.
I'm too peeved to post a photo, will do that later.

AND THE SUN IS SHINING ! banghead

Chris


Edited by Barkychoc on Saturday 7th July 19:47

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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I seem to be a PH no mates on this forum, but ITS FIXED !
Here's some pics of what I had to do.

This is the fit of a Quinton Hazell QSJ1004S Balljoint.
You can see the joint won't go far back enough in the bolt holes to be fixed in its original position (look at the old washer imprints)


This is the fit of a genuine Saab balljoint, actually slightly better than Quinton Hazell. (Sorry a bit blurry).
I fitted this one.


Here's what I did to the wishbone to make it fit.
I did all the filing by hand, I didn't want to take too much off at once.






and here's the pigging thing finished.


I had trouble tightening up the balljoint as it kept spinning, in the end frustration set in, a ruddy great wallop with a rubber mallet did the trick.

Also not sure if its worth noting or not but the genuine saab joint had a much smoother action than any of the others I tried. I had a 'continental direct' branded one before the Quinton Hazell one which was very stiff indeed.
The Saab one is in a totally different class though. Dunno if it makes a difference.
Saab one also comes with a full set of bolts, Quinton Hazell one doesn't.

Hope this helps someone else, I'm off for a drive now..........

By the way what do you think of this camera, its a Kodak Easyshare V610 little pocket thing, I only ever point and shoot but its brilliant. 10x optical zoom too.



Edited by Barkychoc on Saturday 8th March 20:25

pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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[thumbup]

Been reading but had nothing to say until now,nice bit of work there biggrin

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Thanks Pies.
Some people have all the luck picking up 4 balljoints on ebay......
Better hang onto them.

pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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If only i still had them frown

Woody

2,186 posts

283 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Good work Chris thumbup

These cars can get frustrating - especially as parts become harder to find.

I'm sure I'll have a few problems with the rebuild of mine...... If work will stop getting in the way curse

Anyway, chin up - at least you can drive yours wink

Chris

pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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£350 for a camera yikes

Good pics though biggrin

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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pies said:
£350 for a camera yikes

Good pics though biggrin
Got camera for £129, was on offer at Currys. Bargain. 10x optical zoom is amazing.


Edited by Barkychoc on Saturday 7th July 19:52

Harry1972M

743 posts

243 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Had a mare fitting mine today both the top and bottom ball joints I got had a much thinner spiggot than the originals - of course I didn't find this out until I had dismantled both sides and subsequently had to put the old ones back in as I was in a mates borrowed workshop taking up his ramps!!!!!

Can anyone help with part numbers please ?????

I have Bottom ball joint Q&H number QSJ 768S I asked for QSJ 768 as per the alternative parts list do you think the "S" on the end is significant.

Upper ball joints were from ELKPARTS they are Vibring S43805

PIES - those track rod ends you pointed me at were spot on mate thanks.

Graham



clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

214 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Barkychoc said:
I seem to be a PH no mates on this forum, but ITS FIXED !
Here's some pics of what I had to do.
Not at all, been watching with interest, but having never done it had nothing to say,but its great to see these things being done in words and photos.I for one appreciate the effort put in ( as Im sure others do) and must remember to do the same when I do a job.

pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Harry1972M said:
Can anyone help with part numbers please ?????
Quinten Hazell QSJ 1004s
Harry1972M said:
I have Bottom ball joint Q&H number QSJ 768S I asked for QSJ 768 as per the alternative parts list do you think the "S" on the end is significant.
Ive got some 768 and a 765 here i will measure them tomorrow as the 768 mounting looks a bit bigger and might not fit. Forget that yours fitted the mount, but the taper was too thin

Ive measured a 765 and the top of the taper is 15mm (ish) these fit so if your 768 fit the mounting and the top of the taper is 15mm it should fit.Strange how yours dont fit on the taper both top and bottom confused

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th July 2007
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Be aware that the Quinton Hazell I took the pic of above is the latest from them QSJ1004S and I would still have had to file the upper wishbone for it to fit mine in its current position.
The genuine saab needed a bit less filing so I used that one.

Graham the one I bought was also from elkparts the genuine saab one (or so it said).
Still need to get your file out if its as far in as mine.

Edited by Barkychoc on Saturday 7th July 23:42

pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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Info i picked up about the bottom joint

http://www.tvrsseries.com/QH765.JPG

Harry1972M

743 posts

243 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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Sorry guys had a brain storm and gave you a bum steer - the bottom joint was the right size spiggot however it did not have enough sideweays travel to go back enough to allow the top joint to meet its housing.

Graham

pies

13,116 posts

255 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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Hi Graham,

Glad you posted that as im sitting here with a 765 and a 768.The spigot on both is identical.The 768 mounting hole centres are slightly further apart than the 765 and the mounting plate is also slightly larger

Here's a piccy http://www.tvrsseries.com/765768.JPG

HTH smile

Edited by pies on Sunday 8th July 10:04

Harry1972M

743 posts

243 months

Sunday 8th July 2007
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Hi Colin - sorry if I wasted your time mate - I just can't understand why if I have the right part would it not pivot enough - my old one angled a good 3/4" more than the 768S.

Cheers
Graham