SatNav maps showing London Congestion Charge zone?

SatNav maps showing London Congestion Charge zone?

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AMG Merc

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11,954 posts

253 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Anyone know whether such maps exist? I use a Nuvi 660.

munky

5,328 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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did you already try plotting a route into central london to see if it warns you? or from east to west london with the "no toll roads" option enabled (assuming the nuvi has that option?)

AMG Merc

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Thursday 30th August 2007
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munky said:
did you already try plotting a route into central london to see if it warns you? or from east to west london with the "no toll roads" option enabled (assuming the nuvi has that option?)
Thanks munky! Will try option one tonight - don't recall seing the boundaries show on the map itself but it might give an alert. Will check option too also.

munky

5,328 posts

248 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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AMG Merc said:
munky said:
did you already try plotting a route into central london to see if it warns you? or from east to west london with the "no toll roads" option enabled (assuming the nuvi has that option?)
Thanks munky! Will try option one tonight - don't recall seing the boundaries show on the map itself but it might give an alert. Will check option too also.
I'd be interested to know what you find - I'm sure I've seen a screeenshot ages ago of some satnav or other showing "warning - now entering congestion charge zone" but I can't remember which one it was!

AMG Merc

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Friday 31st August 2007
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Drove from SW London into town last night - no audiable warnings re entering the CC at all (and nothing on the map! Ummm, didn't check your suggested toll-road setting yet, will look later but its looking like the Garmin Nuvi 660 ignores Ken Livingstone's most unpopular creation!

PJR

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212 months

Saturday 1st September 2007
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My Tomtom (Go 700) will warn of the Kengestion charge zone. It did this even with outdated maps and software.
I don't think however, that it gives any graphical indication of where the zone is. But still, you have the opportunity to bypass the zone, if you choose.
I expect all the later Tomtom versions would do exactly the same thing.

P,

AMG Merc

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Saturday 1st September 2007
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PJR said:
My Tomtom (Go 700) will warn of the Kengestion charge zone. It did this even with outdated maps and software.
I don't think however, that it gives any graphical indication of where the zone is. But still, you have the opportunity to bypass the zone, if you choose.
I expect all the later Tomtom versions would do exactly the same thing.

P,
Thanks, not going to change models for this though. Have sent question to Garmin...

munky

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248 months

Monday 3rd September 2007
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Bought a nuvi 660FM at the weekend, never have cause to drive into the congestion zone during chargeable hours but did run a simulation on it last night, and it did beep and flash the title bar red when entering the zone, although it didn't say why..

AMG Merc

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Monday 3rd September 2007
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munky said:
Bought a nuvi 660FM at the weekend, never have cause to drive into the congestion zone during chargeable hours but did run a simulation on it last night, and it did beep and flash the title bar red when entering the zone, although it didn't say why..
Ah, getting closer to an answer then munky! But surely it should say why?!

munky

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Monday 3rd September 2007
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AMG Merc said:
munky said:
Bought a nuvi 660FM at the weekend, never have cause to drive into the congestion zone during chargeable hours but did run a simulation on it last night, and it did beep and flash the title bar red when entering the zone, although it didn't say why..
Ah, getting closer to an answer then munky! But surely it should say why?!
Indeed you'd expect so. However I also plotted a route from south (tooley st) to north london (N1) with the avoid toll roads turned on, and rather than take me over tower bridge (outside the zone) or over vauxhall bridge and along park lane (the only exempt north-south road inside the zone) it routed me over blackfriars bridge right into the zone. So it either doesn't know about the c-charge or it's extremely clever and knows that it doesn't operate on sunday nights (when I plotted the route)

Mind you, there are free POIs you can get (e.g. here http://www.maft.co.uk/garmin/download.htm) and also there's the map of the zone at http://www.cclondon.com/download/DetailMapECCZ.pdf and in addition to the big C signs it should be fairly easy to avoid going through the zone if that's your aim!

Just read that there's a new nuvi out in October, the 700 range - how annoyed am I having just bought the 660 on Sat. Going to try to return it (most of the bits are unopened) and get the 670 - has things like a 10,000 point route recorder to show where you've been and the ability to plot a route/tour with up to 200 points on the way and the option of a qwerty keyboard as well as the ABC.. one.

AMG Merc

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Tuesday 4th September 2007
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munky said:
route/tour with up to 200 points on the way and the option of a qwerty keyboard as well as the ABC.. one.
Hale-bleedin-lu-ya - a querty keyboard at last! biggrin

munky

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248 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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Aha, just been reading here that the maps in the garmin do have the congestion charge zone built in as toll roads, but it doesn't warn you when entering (much as it wouldn't warn you when joining a french autoroute will tolls) - instead if you have the avoid toll roads option set, it will try to divert you around the zone or through on the free roads where possible. It won't avoid it if it's impossible (like if your destination is inside it) or if it would take a lot of extra time (how much, I don't know). When I ran simulations I found it would sometimes simply stop at or near the boundary, but then it seems to do that sometimes anyway to simulate delays at traffic lights.

Alternatively you can download the zone as a collection of POIs so that the garmin beeps at you when approaching the zone... try here: http://www.maft.co.uk/garmin/download.htm or http://www.garminfree.com/ and you'll need to install the POI loader (free) from the garmin website.

ADDLED

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202 months

Sunday 9th September 2007
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[quote=munkyHowever I also plotted a route from south (tooley st) to north london (N1) with the avoid toll roads turned on, and rather than take me over tower bridge (outside the zone) or over vauxhall bridge and along park lane (the only exempt north-south road inside the zone) it routed me over blackfriars bridge right into the zone. So it either doesn't know about the c-charge or it's extremely clever and knows that it doesn't operate on sunday nights (when I plotted the route)

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Munky, Ive got the 660FM, great unit but I havent checked out the functionality of the unit with the zoine yet. I have noticed one flaw in your comments about trying to avoid the CC Zone - Tooley Street is inside the zone and so, even if you have 'avoid toll roads' activated, as you are already inside the zone then avoiding the toll is pointless, so the unit should have plotted the fastest route possible.

Lambochick

1,462 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th September 2007
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munky said:
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Just read that there's a new nuvi out in October, the 700 range - how annoyed am I having just bought the 660 on Sat. Going to try to return it (most of the bits are unopened) and get the 670 - has things like a 10,000 point route recorder to show where you've been and the ability to plot a route/tour with up to 200 points on the way and the option of a qwerty keyboard as well as the ABC.. one.
I'd be interested in that. One of my biggest gripes with the 360 I use is that you can only have 1 active waypoint at any time, which becomes a real pain if you've planned a route that uses several waypoints.