RE: SHED OF THE WEEK

Friday 30th November 2007

SOTW: Saab Conv

Be a Sloane Ranger on the cheap...


You can be the most stylish cheapskate in town
You can be the most stylish cheapskate in town
It’s winter, it’s getting cold, it rains a lot – what a perfect time to buy a cabriolet.

Well, in some way it may not be as silly as it sounds because you can get a bit of a bargain, drive round cursing your purchase and then sell it on for a profit next spring. Maybe.

By the time this 900 came along everyone knew they were re-bodied Vauxhalls with awful handling and more than a hint of badge-engineering.

Gone was the quirky, offbeat Swedish engineering that had kept legions of fans from the days of the blast-me-off-the-road early turbo models.

In was basically a Cavalier/Vectra in drag that had dodgy handling and awful residuals.

However, standing slightly away, almost embarrassed of its ugly siblings, always stood the 900 cabrio.

If the saloons were just about shifting out of the showrooms into the hands of school teachers who thought they were too ‘individual’ for a Mondeo, the cabrio didn’t look out of place in Monte Carlo.

The 900 Convertible was driven by people who said ‘yah’ and ‘ra, ra, ra’ a lot and went for lunch at the tennis club.

The small window in the back seemed to add to the sexiness and you had a vehicle that not only moved a notch up from its tin top brother but into a whole different social circle.

It seemed that those who drove the cabrio to their King’s Road eateries were not concerned  by trivial things such as chronic scuttle-shake or woeful handling.

The bigger engined models had too much torque steer but this would matter little on the cruise to the polo club.

The only problem facing those who bought one would be whether to get it in a conservative blue or black, or go for the garish yellow.

The Saab up-sides were there though, including good reliability and the ability to cover monster mileage.

The cabrios seemed to hold their value far better than the hatchbacks ever could too.

Not so this 1995 900 2.3 SE we found on Autotrader, because it could be yours for a measly grand.

It’s the later model in a desirable black, with alloys and leather.

There’s tax and MOT, electric windows, power steering and central locking too.

It does say it needs ‘light bodywork’ but that must be round the other side because it looks pretty good in the pic.

So join the croquet club, call your kids Tarquin and Rupert, and go get it…

Ad says: SAAB 900 2.3 SE Convertible

M reg. 2drs,5spd, Convertible, Black, Alloys, CL, leather, EW, PAS. light bodywork needed hence only. tax & mot. £1,000. p/x to clear.

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sniff petrol

Original Poster:

13,107 posts

212 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Good find, in true wheeler dealer style it needs 'abitofatidyup'

Mike Brewer would be proud of ya fella!

Chassis 33

6,194 posts

282 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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...and you too can look like and ugly trucker...

Regards
Iain

JackHolroyde

490 posts

198 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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I love these cars. My dad had one when i was 9 - company car.
It was like being chauffered in a battletank...
Loved it...

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

220 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Isn't the NG900 Cavalier based?

sunnyjim

548 posts

216 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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very cool, but it just didnt have that special something of the original

duff

982 posts

199 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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I assume it's been to mars and back as there's no mention of the mileage, always annoys me when people don't put it in the ad....

Frimley111R

15,623 posts

234 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Bound to have big miles and partial, if any, service history. If they don't put the mileage there's only one reason why! Still, all cleaned up that looks nice for a grand with MoT (depending how long) and tax.

A S P

543 posts

205 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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r5gttgaz said:
Isn't the NG900 Cavalier based?
Unfortunately yes. The worst handling car I've ever bought and it never was that reliable.

NiallOswald

326 posts

206 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Bugger that for a grand - you'd get a semi-decent classic 900 or 9000 for that. Still *very* FWD but proper Saabs at least! Just watch out for the 'engine >> gearbox' issue on the turbos...

martync

19 posts

243 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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i had one of these, it was N reg, it was also a Sensonic! this was SAAB answer to semi-automatic! a manual gearbox with no clutch peDal! in pratice it was dire! and with the roof up (with that small window) it was impossible to reverse park as it either was doing 30mph or nothing!

as to reliability, mine borke down on the day i bought it, picked it up from the garage and it broke down again, a different problem this time, all in all i bought the car for 6K and spent 6k in the local saab specialists! im sure i kept him in business for that 1 year.

the things that went wrong

window ratchet the teeth broke off
one of the pulley cams broke
thermostat went
DI cartridge melted (HT Leads)
Gearbox lost 2nd and 3rd gear
Heater broke
the roof started to catch on the box lid so wouldnt go down properly
new electronic ignition
the ECU had to be replaced as sometimes it wouldn't start
air conditionning needed re-gassing once a week
rear interior light would randomly fall out
pixels on the disply would randomly dissapear

all of this mixed with the fact that the handeling was horrendus and you could watch the dash board bend up and down if you went over a cobble stone, the seats were flat and leather, so if you went round a coner a bit too fast you would fall off them!!

all in all i think it about £999 too much, i'd rather buy James May's austin princess!

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Edited by martync on Friday 30th November 15:08

toohuge

3,434 posts

216 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Careful about the 'ra's' as you would put it. You may disapprove but turning up to the polo club in one of those would be known as social sucicide. Most would have been seen in a Range Rover and nothing else.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

207 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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without a doubt the worse scuttle shake i have ever experianced. Terrible cars that havent got better with age.

nobrakes

2,976 posts

198 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Looks like a convertable bus - probably has handling to match.

Turbobanana

6,258 posts

201 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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As the long-term owner of a "Classic" 900 T16S Convertible, in yellow, I agree with all the negative comments about this thing.

The original had a north-south engine layout and well-located rear suspension and handled brilliantly. Saab was (and is) in financial difficulties when the NG900 was launched and did the obvious thing which was to plunder GM's parts bin. That meant that almost no parts were carried over from the old model, including enthusiastic owners...

The later 9-3 was a vast improvement but even that needed help to handle anything over the base model's 115 or so BHP (Bear in mind that Saab was a pioneer of turbocharging and 9-3's had up to 250BHP).

Having said all of the above, the NG900 and 9-3 held the position of best-selling convertible in the UK for many years and for a grand this is probably a good buy.

And don't worry about the mileage - my old 900 T16S had 246,000 miles on it when I sold it...

yikes

bencollins

3,497 posts

205 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Classy motor for great price. driving Excellent shed IMO just not for racing. Best fanny magnet for £1k around.
Seems very cheap though, even with scratches, flood damaged? What are the rules for declaring if it is flood damaged and/or insurance claimed? Any tricks for spotting 'em? (aside from ring line on carpet)

martync

19 posts

243 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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bencollins said:
What are the rules for declaring if it is flood damaged and/or insurance claimed? Any tricks for spotting 'em? (aside from ring line on carpet)
frogs in the glove boxsmile

John Murray

3 posts

197 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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I'd be interested to know what happened to last weeks 205GTI as this one holds no attraction for me

Carruthers

2,640 posts

213 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Its probably more honest than this one!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/276553.htm

75_Steve

7,489 posts

200 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Despite them being a bit dodgy to drive, you have to say that's a real bargain.

Tidy it, clean it up and whack a set of NI plates on it (yeah, not classy, but cheap) and the neighbours will think your numbers have come up.

forsure

2,120 posts

268 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Looks like the one that 'Two Stroke to Turbo' had on ebay a few weeks ago.
The damage was to the paint and the roof - something had been poured over it.
If it is, a respray and a new roof makes it look a lot less of a bargain.