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mat205125

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14,776 posts

99 months

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Tuesday 22nd January 2008 quote quote all
Hi all,

I'm considering one of the above 2 as my next car. It'll be my daily driver and be clocking about 25k a year.

I'm interested to hear from people with experience of either with regards to:

-Build Quality
-Relaibility
-Servicing / Running Costs
-Fuel consumption (normal and best to be expected)
-Points to look for when viewing either

v v v v important for me is to be able to get a roof rack for taking my bikes about. Can the 3dr versions of these cars be fitted with bars?


neiljohnson

10,869 posts

93 months

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Tuesday 22nd January 2008 quote quote all
Had a st170 for about 2 years was doing 120 odd miles a day in it, thrashed it to death great car i loved it (upgraded to the RS when got diff job with less mileage to do) only had one thing go wrong with it which was a manifold control moudule which was £120 in 48 thousand miles.

BigMansZetec

1,193 posts

93 months

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Tuesday 22nd January 2008 quote quote all
I think you will have fun with either.

I guess size is the big question, if you think you are going to need the space at anytime, the Focus will be your best bet.

sean19

664 posts

86 months

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Tuesday 22nd January 2008 quote quote all
Personally I think the ST170 is looking a little dated.
The Fiesta ST is a cracking looking car especially in white with side strips (not a fan of 'over the top')

I am actually trying to begin saving for a Fiesta ST, they seem a decent all rounder. Not out and out quick but all reviews point at a fun drive with reasonable refinement. I imagine a ST170 to be more refined on motorways.

However, a guy in work had a Clio 182 and bought a Focus ST170. He didnt think the ST170 was anywhere near the drive the Clio was, sold the ST170 after 5 weeks (to get ST220).

mat205125

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14,776 posts

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008 quote quote all
I'm not a fan of the "Viper" bonnet and roof stripes, but they can always be removed.

White / Blue & Red / White are my favourite colour schemes for the Fiesta.

Focus absolutely HAS to be be 3dr, and really must be black too .... quite lick the light non-metallic blue though if one were to appear.

Extra Question Makes no difference to the mpg, just the frequency that I will need to queue behind the dead heads at the petrol stations. What do the 'festa and focus hold in the fuel tanks in litres?
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bingbong

2,436 posts

83 months

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008 quote quote all
I can't fault my st170, brilliant car, revvy engine and IMHO the first generation focus are the best looking. A Fiesta ST may hold it's value a bit better, as I would imagine it would be a little newer. Both have similar 0-60 times, I belive the fiesta is faster here, but the focus has a slightly higher top end.

Howeever, If someone offered me a swap of my focus st170 for a Fiesta ST of similar value (or even slightly higher value) I wouldn't swap.

A full fill-up in my car cost about £50 so its reasonable to say its a 50 litre tank.

mat205125

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14,776 posts

99 months

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008 quote quote all
Cheers BB. How many miles are you getting out of your £50.

chris_w666

22,654 posts

85 months

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008 quote quote all
Loved my ST170 but doing higher miles (20-25k) meant i needed something cheaper to run. If youre motorway communting should get 30-35 but in town mine was woeful. Not done much in a fester ST but they feel harder and less comfy in town and when crusing. Personally id take the focus and spend the extra cash on more fuel and some decent tyres, test drove it on original tyres that were shagged and it felt good, the dealer fitted cheap rubbish and it lost some of its front end bite after 2000 miles, fitted a fullset of contis and it was like a new car. In 2 years mine cost me routine servicing and tyres (even the brakes held up well).

There are quite a few forums around for both cars and these should give you some tips on what the pitfalls of both cars are.

chris_w666

22,654 posts

85 months

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008 quote quote all
Another small point is that if you want to upgrade beyond standard then the fester is the way to go, no matter what people may tell you, foced induction or throttle bodies are the only ways to squeeze power from the focus. This will cost you upwards of 3k and while old school induction roar sounds cool paying for that in a hatchback seems silly when you could buy a catheram and have way more fun.

mat205125

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14,776 posts

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Wednesday 23rd January 2008 quote quote all
Cheers Chris. Good info.

Not planning to mod for power as mpg is important for me at my mileage per year.

Waynester

5,077 posts

136 months

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Thursday 24th January 2008 quote quote all
mat205125 said:
Hi all,

I'm considering one of the above 2 as my next car. It'll be my daily driver and be clocking about 25k a year.

I'm interested to hear from people with experience of either with regards to:

-Build Quality
-Relaibility
-Servicing / Running Costs
-Fuel consumption (normal and best to be expected)
-Points to look for when viewing either

v v v v important for me is to be able to get a roof rack for taking my bikes about. Can the 3dr versions of these cars be fitted with bars?
If you go with the 3 door focus, i have a roof rack. Bought from Ford dealer, only used once.
I have an ST-3 now so it doesn't fit.

I'd go with the ST170, bigger car, more practicable. Not saying the Fiesta ST isn't, just the Focus offers that bit more.smile



Edited by Waynester on Thursday 24th January 07:38

mat205125

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14,776 posts

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Thursday 24th January 2008 quote quote all
Thanks Waynester.

I'm 99.9% certain that the Focus is the most likely route that I will take, and would be very interested in your rack.

How does personal mail work on here? Anyone, anyone?

pbirkett

9,450 posts

158 months

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Thursday 24th January 2008 quote quote all
sean19 said:
Personally I think the ST170 is looking a little dated.
The Fiesta ST is a cracking looking car especially in white with side strips (not a fan of 'over the top')
Are you blind? I cant think of a single way the Fiesta looks better than the ST170 hehe

mat205125

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pbirkett said:
sean19 said:
Personally I think the ST170 is looking a little dated.
The Fiesta ST is a cracking looking car especially in white with side strips (not a fan of 'over the top')
Are you blind? I cant think of a single way the Fiesta looks better than the ST170 hehe
have a course horse!

mat205125

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14,776 posts

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Friday 25th January 2008 quote quote all
Further question!

Can the ST170 focus be fitted with a tow bar to tow a jet ski / radical sized trailer?

FireDance

1 posts

90 months

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Friday 25th January 2008 quote quote all
i have a ST170 & i love it

i am selling it at the min purely for the fact i only get 250 miles to a tank, & she is nearly 5 years old.

if the still made the 1.5 st170 but with the 225 lump in it, i would buy one of them (even tho they are far worse on petrol!!)

yes u can fit a tow bar on it, although ford say that you can not. persoanlly if u need a roof box & to tow things i would go for the 170 as its a bigger car & should tow things easier

mat205125

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14,776 posts

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Saturday 26th January 2008 quote quote all
What mpg does that work out as Firedance. 250 per tank would mean I would be stood at the pumps twice a week.

Waynester

5,077 posts

136 months

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mat205125 said:
Thanks Waynester.

I'm 99.9% certain that the Focus is the most likely route that I will take, and would be very interested in your rack.

How does personal mail work on here? Anyone, anyone?
Hey mat, sorry been away.

if your interested in the rack give me a call on 07940 755829

As i say, it was bought from Fords and only used once. I think i paid £80ish for it.

cheers,

wayne.

beano9

162 posts

85 months

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Thursday 31st January 2008 quote quote all
Hi matt i was in the same boat as you about a year ago and wasnt sure what was best but if your planning on putting a roof rack on or a t-bar and on motor ways alot then id go for the st170 alot better for what your gonna be using it for. Tho the fiesta st is a class little car for towns and for running about just the focus is all round bigger and better

moanthebairns

9,469 posts

84 months

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Thursday 31st January 2008 quote quote all
i had looked at st 170's before was thinking bout getting one but went for fiesta st. i personally think its a much better looking car than the old st170's they look dated now, still a nice car however. but i think the interior is alot nicer on a new fez. i dont know your age so this might not be a big factor but is for me as im only 20, insurance on a 170 is a group 16 a fez is group 13.
dont quote me on this but id imagine a fez is cheaper to service and buy tyres for etc plus as far as im away its one of the cheapest cars on the road for fixing bumps. ethier way two nice cars
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