RE: Long Term - VW Golf GTI Edition 30

RE: Long Term - VW Golf GTI Edition 30

Friday 22nd February 2008

VW Golf GTI Edition 30

In the end it had to be the GTI...



When I left you last week I was pondering over whether to get a VW Golf GTI Edition 30 or a Golf R32 as a long termer. After much pondering and a lot of interesting feedback you will see that I went for the Edition 30 (although eagle-eyed members may have known already after spotting it at the Sunday Service). Both Golfs were tempting propositions, but in the end the Edition 30 felt just as quick, more nimble and that little bit more fun.

I have to admit since getting the keys to the GTI I do miss the sound of the R32’s gorgeous V6, which just makes 2.0 turbocharged FSI motor sound all the more flatter when I start it up. That aside there seems little not to like at the moment. The Edition 30, with its extra 30 horses over the 200bhp GTI, feels every bit as fast as


the R32 and is a hoot to drive. It’s only when you park it next to a TVR and a Caterham, as I did at the Sunday Service, that you notice how big the Golf is. This means lots of head room and all round space inside, and you don’t notice the car’s size when pushing on.

The MK5 GTI is the best looking since the MKII and one of the great advantages of a Golf has always been its classlessness – you really could turn up anywhere in it. After the disappointing MK3 and MK4 Golf GTIs, the MK5 grabbed back the hot hatch crown for VW. It is quick, sophisticated and practical. After seeing the white ones on the thread I kind of wished it was that colour, but the Tornado Red grows on you quickly and complements the Golf’s understated but subtly aggressive looks.

The only thing is the Golf’s quality does not come cheap. On the road the GTI Edition 30 is £23,045, but throw in £1,845 worth of DVD, sat nav and other techy bits, as well a multi-function wheel, tinted rear glass, and rear side airbags, and the price is going north of £25,000.The ‘Interlagos’ cloth trim harks back to Golfs of old and the seats are actually more comfortable and supportive than the leather buckets in the R32. There is even an old school 'golf ball' gear knob for an extra trip down memory lane.


The Edition 30 will crack 60mph in 6.8 seconds and go on to a respectable 152mph. But it is through the twisty stuff that the Golf really shines. The steering has more feel than its all-wheel drive brother and the chassis is superb. It has good throttle response and once the turbo spools up the Golf almost catches you out. The delivery is so smooth you don’t notice how much extra speed is being piled on.

The only thing I can’t get used to is the slightly dull sounding engine. Maybe I was spoilt by the R32 or perhaps I’m being picky but it doesn’t sound as sporty as it should. When you shut the boot you don’t know whether it is properly shut unless you open it again, and the big plastic fake air intakes on the front bug me. Apart from that the Golf seems to be ticking all the right boxes, but I will let you know when and if I detect any more foibles.

So far I’ve covered 700 miles in the Golf and tomorrow I’m going to put at least another 300 on it. I look forward to finding out if this GTI really does live up to its name…

 

Engine capacity (litres / cc)                    2.0 / 1984         

Power output (PS @ rpm)                       230 @ 5500

Max torque (lbs ft/Nm @ rpm)                 221/300 @ 2200 – 5200

Top speed (mph)                                   152

0-62 mph (seconds)                               6.8

Fuel economy (mpg)                              Urban – 25.0; Extra-Urban – 44.8; Combined – 34.4

 


Basic OTR recommended retail price           £23,045.00

Extras -   DVD touch-screen satellite navigation/radio system with 6½” colour screen, six-disc CD autochanger in front centre armrest, multifunction computer, 30 GB hard drive, SD card reader, MP3, WMA and DVD video data files compatibility, AUX-in socket for connection to external multimedia sources (e.g. iPod  and USB) two rear air vents and cup holders (£1,845); luxury pack – including, electrically foldable door mirrors and reverse activated kerb-view adjustment on passenger’s door mirror (£110); winter pack – includes, headlight washers, heated windscreen washer jets and low washer fluid warning light (£225); rear side air bags (£235); leather multifunction steering wheel (£370); heat insulating tinted rear glass from B pillar backwards (£175)

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urban_alchemist

Original Poster:

604 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Woo hoo! You got the tartan!

Anyway, congrats and enjoy... gotta say, I love the red (but not as much as the white smile)

fastismycopilot

48 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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I wondered who had the other Edition 30 on Sunday! Mine was the Steel Grey one in the disabled bay. Yes, they do sound a bit dull, try sticking a Milltek exhaust on it makes a biiiiiiig difference without going all 'MaxPower'.

You'll probably need to give it until around 5,000 miles before it loosens up a bit & then will feel even better to drive. You should be getting around 240bhp in standard trim, whatever VW's figures may say. Put the exhaust on and you'll skip merrily up to around 260bhp (hopefully, we've got a Golf roller day this Sunday at AmD for me to verify this). Can get a little frisky at the front end when it's damp, mind......

Enjoy it, good choice, albeit a dfficult one. I struggled with it as well.

A - W

1,720 posts

230 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Nice report, just missing the as tested price figure.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

232 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Congrats on making the sensible choice smile........how long until it gets the Oettinger chip (305BHP biggrin)

Rob_T

1,916 posts

266 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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had my gti just short of 2 years. covered 40,000 miles in it - got the dsg box. i doubt you'll find fault with it. in my view it's in manny ways better than the road oriented 911's.

it's a smashing car.

mackie1

8,168 posts

248 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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As someone else already said it's got a lot of remapping potential. Various people can provide > 300bhp for a few hundred notes. I believe then engine is closer to that in the S3 than the standard GTI.

Tin Hat

1,415 posts

224 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Great car,good looking and really desireable.

But it ain't cheap is it?

leonski

107 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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We have been thinking about swapping our MK4 r32 for a ed30.... but I can't decide if I could live with out the V6!

Dr G

15,603 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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fastismycopilot said:
I wondered who had the other Edition 30 on Sunday! Mine was the Steel Grey one in the disabled bay. Yes, they do sound a bit dull, try sticking a Milltek exhaust on it makes a biiiiiiig difference without going all 'MaxPower'.
I'll second this, makes an absolute world of difference!

rasbryriple

15 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Dr G said:
fastismycopilot said:
I wondered who had the other Edition 30 on Sunday! Mine was the Steel Grey one in the disabled bay. Yes, they do sound a bit dull, try sticking a Milltek exhaust on it makes a biiiiiiig difference without going all 'MaxPower'.
I'll second this, makes an absolute world of difference!
Right car - wrong colour

I noticed Milltek do a Resonated and Non Resonated (Quieter/Louder) Cat Back System, which have you got? and does it make a difference to bhp.


CocoPops

466 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Good choice smile

I collect my new Ed30 2 weeks today!! Can't wait!!
Last golf I had was a 1983 rusty mk1 1.1 back in 1996

dinkel

27,457 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Tin Hat said:
Great car,good looking and really desireable.

But it ain't cheap is it?
Phew . . . neighbour has one and it looks good. He also made it sound good . . . there are ways Olli.

briSk

14,291 posts

241 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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I love the wheels but personally i prefer the more 'underground' look of the standard car with the black plastic trim.

What I am not clear on is the engine. is it the standard gti/vrs tfsi tuned-up a bit or is it the s3/cupra version detuned a bit?

Mr Whippy

31,127 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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That options list is such a joke.

£375 MORE for a steering wheel with buttons on?

Surely it only costs so much because they make one WITHOUT bloody buttons to start with, pushing up costs.

This is one of the things that puts me off alot of German cars, the options lists, EVEN on the GTi 30th Edition there is a bloody option list that can add 20% to the cars value!!! Options which can't really cost VW more than a few hundred quid in raw parts costs...

Top-end models should have it all the genuinely useful stuff on already.

Dave

CocoPops

466 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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briSk said:
What I am not clear on is the engine. is it the standard gti/vrs tfsi tuned-up a bit or is it the s3/cupra version detuned a bit?
Its a detuned S3 engine with a BYD code rather than a chipped GTI engine.

g60_go

31 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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hmmm.....now if only i didn't have a vauxhall as my company car.....i would get one of these.....or maybe a r32 and then stick a supercharger on it!!biggrin

briSk

14,291 posts

241 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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CocoPops said:
briSk said:
What I am not clear on is the engine. is it the standard gti/vrs tfsi tuned-up a bit or is it the s3/cupra version detuned a bit?
Its a detuned S3 engine with a BYD code rather than a chipped GTI engine.
thanks.

i shall now look out for one in 2/3 years time.. and get some black bumpers wink

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

240 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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I had a standard GTI with the DSG box and personally I quite liked the engine note...however I had just changed from an RX8 230, so the deeper tone and rumble was much more obvious to me.

I agree it is a great car...but I changed it after a year. After having had a 'sports coupe', the GTI just was not what I enjoyed anymore. It's just a fast hatchback and no longer felt 'special'.

Before I get flamed, this is ENTIRELY personal preference - I just realised I had 'grown out' of the hot-hatch thing. I actually changed it for a new Freelander 2...which I am in love with. Such a different driving experience and a really nice place to be with the spec I chose. I tell you - in this day and age, luxury is the new performance. wink

P~

jerrytlr

424 posts

228 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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The problem I have with this car is that for similar money you could get a one-series BMW 123d, rwd handling and similar performance as well as much better mpg - or for only slightly more (with haggling) a 130 if you can't live with a diesel... £25K is crazy for a FWD hatchback IMO - and you didn't even get leather or alcantara for that!!

RX8 230 would be a much better bet too if you can stomach the fuel bills and don't need a hatch (I used to get 18mpg average out of mine, truly awful).

That's not to say the GTi isn't a great car and I am sure you will enjoy it a lot - I just really struggle with VAG's poor value for money these days....

Cheers,

Jerry

Neomagic

386 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Power to weight ratio is crap IMO, 0-60 6.8 for a 230bhp car!

My FTO has a 197 BHP and does it in about that time.

Nice car just don’t quite agree with the whole best GTI since the mark 2 thing.

The mark 3 GTI 150 wasn’t a bad car IMO.