Monday 3rd March 2008

Porsche Diesel For 2009

Report: Cayenne diesel to arrive next year

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For those people who thought Porsche had lost the plot when it built an SUV rumour has it the company will launch a diesel version next year.

Apparently Porsche is not going for a huge powerful diesel either, instead focusing on fuel economy, and has chosen a twin-turbocharged V6.

The engine will reportedly come from Audi and is expected to produce over 300bhp but deliver 30mpg.

Even though Porsche is fighting London mayor Ken Livingstone over an increase in the Congestion Charge it appears the diesel is the company’s attempt to prepare for a worst case scenario.

According to the report the motivation for a Porsche diesel comes from rising worldwide emissions and fuel economy regulation.

If rumours that the hybrid Cayenne is being delayed until 2010 are true that means the diesel model will be the company’s flagship ‘green’ model.

[SplatSpeed]

[SEE YA]

Look out for Lemans now then to run their diesel along with Audi .It was only a matter of time before it happened .

SEE YA

[ZesPak]

+1

Imo, this is not to jump "on the green boat" for the government, its to get a share in the huge market there is for huge diesel cars . 90% of cayenne buyers neither have any ambition to go fast nor to go off road. They just want to get from A to B. In a porsche.

[Far Eastender]

Probably the same engine as in my wife's Touareg.

Not bad at all, but not what I would expect from Porsche.

[edwardsje]

Isn't this about hitting EU emissions targets for their range?

[tomkandy]

As insulting as this project is to the Porsche brand, it will be funny to see people driving these round London, whilst Ford Galaxies are taxed £25 a day

[kambites]

tomkandy said:

As insulting as this project is to the Porsche brand, it will be funny to see people driving these round London, whilst Ford Galaxies are taxed £25 a day

Does anyone actually buy an automatic petrol Galaxy though? I can't imagine why you would.

[scotty_917]

edwardsje said:

Isn't this about hitting EU emissions targets for their range?

Exactly......the number 1 reason.....jokes aside.

[Agoogy]

glad to see them taking a different view and seeing sense... with VAG, BMW, MB and now Porsche behind derv, I can't see it being too long before the issues surrounding real performance, noise, character etc etc being answered.

Interesting to see though if this move will affect the sales of the rest of the range? will they drop because prospective owners don't want to be associated with derv?
Will the other manufacturers get in line and follow suit? Ferrari, Maserati, Aston, Bentley, Lotus etc all shunned SUVs ....will they do the same here?

[ross_stig]

can understand it in a cayenne though, however, i would be monumentally shocked if they were to follow suit with audi and make a diesel in any other model (eg boxster, 911, cayman.) if it brings their average emissions down so they can keep making 911's then i'm all for it!

[Twincam16]

scotty_917 said:

edwardsje said:

Isn't this about hitting EU emissions targets for their range?

Exactly......the number 1 reason.....jokes aside.

Like it or loathe it, if you want your favourite heavyweight marques to survive, then diesel is the only way to go for the time being.

[ZesPak]

Twincam16 said:

scotty_917 said:

edwardsje said:

Isn't this about hitting EU emissions targets for their range?

Exactly......the number 1 reason.....jokes aside.

Like it or loathe it, if you want your favourite heavyweight marques to survive, then diesel is the only way to go for the time being.

And of course, they will sell stloads of em, so it will really help them getting closer to those targets (not meeting them, of course) plus making a big profit. So, as said before, if this helps them keeping the 911 and Cayman alive, I'm in for it.

[PhantomPH]

What I cannot understand, is why diesel is allegedly 'green'. "Hey look Green-Brigade - we have a diesel!" so they meet the emissions targets. Lets not worry about the fact that diesel is 'heavy oil' and that it actually contributes more to localised degradation in air quality than petrol...or that more people are likely to suffer the short-term effects of the particulates emitted from diesel engines - asthma and respiratory.

As much as I don't really buy into this notion that petrol cars are killing the planet (their effect being a drop in the bucket), I do worry that all of a sudden the majority of cars will be guffing out black smoke and crap as a way of placating the 'green' regulations.

rant over.

P~

[MogulBoy]

[Turbobanana]

MogulBoy said:

I think this is better looking...

[Road_Terrorist]

Agoogy said:

Interesting to see though if this move will affect the sales of the rest of the range? will they drop because prospective owners don't want to be associated with derv?
Will the other manufacturers get in line and follow suit? Ferrari, Maserati, Aston, Bentley, Lotus etc all shunned SUVs ....will they do the same here?

Apparently while Porsche and everyone are making diesels/hybrids and so on, Aston Martins plan is to simply pay the EU fines for not making the targets

[clonmult]

ross_stig said:

if it brings their average emissions down so they can keep making 911's then i'm all for it!

That almost seems like an indecent proposal - totally logical, but the thought of any Porsche, even such an ugly one, with a diesel in it?

[edwardsje]

Turbobanana said:

MogulBoy said:

I think this is better looking...

The lines, the feeling of speed, the understeer unless you get the front hooked up - fantastic to see a marque with true heritage for once!

[Demure]

ross_stig said:

can understand it in a cayenne though, however, i would be monumentally shocked if they were to follow suit with audi and make a diesel in any other model (eg boxster, 911, cayman.) if it brings their average emissions down so they can keep making 911's then i'm all for it!

Diesel 911?

No thanks!

I'm with Polarbert http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...

[Demure]

Road_Terrorist said:

Agoogy said:

Interesting to see though if this move will affect the sales of the rest of the range? will they drop because prospective owners don't want to be associated with derv?
Will the other manufacturers get in line and follow suit? Ferrari, Maserati, Aston, Bentley, Lotus etc all shunned SUVs ....will they do the same here?

Apparently while Porsche and everyone are making diesels/hybrids and so on, Aston Martins plan is to simply pay the EU fines for not making the targets

Well they don't really have another choice? I mean pulling up somewhere in an Aston that sounds like a tractor is just wrong on so many levels.

ETA: Oh and good on Aston

Edited by Demure on Monday 3rd March 10:24