RE: SmartNav Reviewed

Thursday 18th September 2003

SmartNav Reviewed

Simon Rockman tries out the navigation, blackspot and tracking system from Trafficmaster


Trafficmaster’s SmartNav is a car navigation system that uses a mobile phone connection to replace a lot of the equipment usually associated with sat-nav. The hardware still uses satellite positioning so it knows where you are. It also knows how fast you are going and best of all it has a database of Gatsos and speed cameras. Er, sorry - ‘Accident Black spots’ as indicated by Gatsos and speed cameras. The latest device can also be linked into a stolen vehicle tracking system.

The substitution of a mobile phone for the computer and CD system halves the price when compared to a traditional nav system. It also works better and is easier to use.
The one-button approach is one of the things that makes SmartNav special. It’s like using carphones of the early 1980s. These didn’t have a keypad. You just picked up the handset, pressed the walkie-talkie type button and spoke to an operator. You asked for the number and the operator put you through. With SmartNav, too, you press one button and speak to an operator.

Found You

The car sends the GPS position to the operator at Trafficmaster by text message and the software at HQ works out which road you are on. All you have to do is say where you want to go. The operator enters this into the computer system, which then works out the route and sends it as data, like an email, to the car. The small computer in the car takes the route and reads out instructions.

There is no screen, only a hidden speaker, a mobile phone car kit microphone and one Trafficmaster button. Since most cars have blanking plates for options which didn’t come on your model, the button can usually be made to look in keeping with the rest of the controls on the car. Trafficmaster keeps a stock of suitably sized and shaped buttons. Just having one button makes the unit ideal for particularly smart cars where you don’t want to spoil the look of the interior with third party hardware. The button can even be out of sight under a seat! Indeed Trafficmaster has looked at the possibility of putting a second button in just such a position as a car-jacking protection.

Live Data

The route which is downloaded into your car takes into account the latest traffic conditions. This is Trafficmaster’s forte. There are around 8000 miles of roads in the UK, which are constantly monitored by Trafficmaster’s sensors. On motorway bridges are simple infra-red sensors that measure the speed of the cars below by bouncing a signal off the front of the cars. On suburban roads, there are blue poles containing digital cameras which read part of the number plate.

Trafficmaster has a database of regular jams and blackspots built up over 10 years of monitoring traffic. If your journey takes you past a place that is free when you ask for the route, but likely to be jammed by the time you reach it, the route will divert around a traffic jam that isn’t there yet.

Your connection to the Trafficmaster server takes less than two minutes so you've not online all the time. If, however, there is an accident which will block your route, the Trafficmaster computer estimates where you are, calls up to find out and then gives you a new, faster route. Of course Trafficmaster doesn’t have sensors everywhere so it uses a database of previous traffic for those roads.

Up to Date

The combination of all this information should give you the optimum route for your journey. One of the greatest weaknesses of all navigation systems is that maps are not completely accurate. Even if they start off right, roads change, there are one way systems implemented then the council changes its mind or a mad Mayor chooses to block off half of Trafalgar Square.

If you have a paper map you probably won’t have changed it for about three years. With a CD based navigation system the makers recommend that you buy annual updates. In practice people tend to get the updates every couple of years (just after getting lost due to an old map!). But the updates are typically going to be six months out of date and they are expensive, something around £100. With the Trafficmaster server based system the maps are regularly updated, and if they are wrong there is a free phone number for customers to call in and correct it.

There are still some problems with roads being wrongly categorised, in particular some bumpy farm tracks that are shown as ‘b’ roads. This is a great short cut if you have a Cayenne, not so good in a GT2.

Where Now?

The biggest difference between using a CD based system and SmartNav is that with a CD system you type in the details of where you want to go before you start driving. With SmartNav the system takes a few seconds to get a fix on you so you need to wait before pressing the dial button. You can drive off and do this, but of course if you’ve no idea of which way to turn to start the journey you don’t have any directions to know which way to turn. On balance it is usually nicer to start out and then get directions than fiddle around before you leave.

The other major difference is what happens when you leave the recommended route. A CD-based system would have the whole map to hand, but SmartNav only has the roads you are supposed to be on. When you leave the route the system detects this, and starts calling base. It then tells you that you are no longer on the route and downloads a new route. This all happens reasonably quickly but it can be a little disconcerting to feel lost for a few hundred yards.

Cameras

The ‘accident black spot’ side of things works even if you are not being navigated on a route. If you need to be advised that the road is ‘dangerous’ there are three gentle beeps. It’s an intelligent system and only warns for the right direction. If you are traveling too fast – again measured by the wonders of GPS – then the beeps are louder and more urgent. It keeps beeping until you slow down. The indication cannot be turned on and off which is a pain when you have passengers who are asleep, and on the M25 which seems to have more cameras than the BBC. The unit keeps the map of cameras updated automatically – you don’t have to specifically dial in, but does not track mobile units.

A more fully featured, more expensive version of SmartNav that uses an in-car screen is also under development. Without visual input, there are times when the voice only input can be imprecise—it might not be clear which road is meant by ‘the third exit on the roundabout’, for instance. SmartNav gives road numbers but not names, which can throw you—for instance, most people will know the A5183 only as Watling Street.

Web Interface

Key elements of the SmartNav service can be set up on the web site before you set off. This is excellent. It allows you to save common locations so that when you call up you can just say ‘Home’ or ‘Work’. The site also lets you set certain parameters. You can say whether you you prefer A-roads or motorways and you can specify the length of delay that will necessitate a re-route. Using one payment method, you are charged for each re-route, so it’s good to be able to choose to put up with minor traffic jams if you wish.

There are also maps which show recent journeys and the option to set a personal greeting. If you share your car your spouse might not want to be greeted with your name.

The control centre can do more than just arrange routes and breakdown services. You can order presents and flowers through the concierge service which feels very smart.

When Mercury One 2 One first launched there were services like this and I used it to order flowers for a girl. We are married now :)

SmartNav doesn’t guarantee true love, but it doesn’t cost a bomb either. The basic system costs £500 plus installation—expect that to be around £80 depending on who does it and how tricky your car is to take apart and put back together. There is also an annual charge or a charge per route. This includes the cost of the phone call (SmartNav uses O2 for the connection). Calls can only be made to the SmartNav control centre and it won’t accept incoming calls from anyone except Trafficmaster.

The service charge is £350 for life, £120 a year or 89p a route (plus 20p for each re-route). The system comes with the first 15 routes free so you can try it out and then decide which tariff you want. The blackspot warning costs an extra £6 a month and there is an optional stolen vehicle service that costs £8 a month.

SmartNav contact: 0870 240 5000 www.smartnav.com

Author
Discussion

johnnystorm

Original Poster:

168 posts

273 months

Thursday 18th September 2003
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Err, cheaper than a computer/PDA system??? At 580 installed I'm not so sure!

simonrockman

6,852 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th September 2003
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OK, it's marginal. An iPaq is about £400 and Navman about £200. It's swings and roundabouts. You may consider that you have an iPaq anyway and so that's kind of 'free', but you won't have the map updates.
IME phones, PDAs and the like have very fussy GPS. A fixed GPS antenna works better, but then the point you made was about price, not performance and I conceed, it can be cheaper to go for a non-dedicated system.

CarZee

13,382 posts

267 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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I really quite fancy this.. has anyone got it yet?

DennisTheMenace

15,603 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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I had it on trial a few years back . it kept telling me to do a u turn on the M25 , I guess they have improved it if its getting rave reviews . it was utter crap at directing me round London due to the GPS dropping out (used my Alpine in the end with no problems) , plus it uses Bt cellent (O2) so you can be garanteed shite coverage in the SW . It can now be ordered with a screen but to make it perfect it needs a speed pulse :yes
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CarZee

13,382 posts

267 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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It looks like good value for money given the flaws and lack of integrated 'traffic management' features in traditional SatNavs...

To be honest, the screen & stuff might be nice, but it's going in an S2000 and I don't want to bugger up the clean lines of the interior. I really think that having looked at the brochures and demo, if I get it with the safespeed option, it'll be ideal.

Loads of added value services for a fixed price too. Besides, I'm already used to pressing a button and being connected hands-free to a woman who'll tell me exactly where to go

Either way it's gotta be better than TwatNav (woman in passenger seat )



>> Edited by CarZee on Saturday 6th March 19:21

ScoobyZoom

6,578 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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Carzee,

We have just started selling it at work. its really quite good. i'd recommend it.

not that my recommendation counts for sh1t.

but it is quite good sir.

DennisTheMenace

15,603 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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CarZee said:
I'm already used to pressing a button and being connected hands-free to a woman who'll tell me exactly where to go

Either way it's gotta be better than TwatNav (woman in passenger seat )






Give it a go zee , like i say they must have improved it quite a bit since i had it to get the reviews its got , you can also find the nearest pub with it

ScoobyZoom

6,578 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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CarZee said:
Besides, I'm already used to pressing a button and being connected hands-free to a woman who'll tell me exactly where to go

Either way it's gotta be better than TwatNav (woman in passenger seat )





sorry, i just laughed so hard i think i damaged something internally

watkid

3,636 posts

253 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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Halfrauds had the Blaupunct TravePilot for £500 the other day. I have had one for 3 years and paid £1000 for it. At £500 it's a bargain - Oh and it is 1 din high so fits in place of your standard radio

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th March 2004
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I won a complete SmartNav system including installation and one year's subcription (worth £750) for my Autocar "Letter of the Week". However, I already have satnav in both my cars, so if someone wants to make me an offer, I can instruct Trafficmaster to install it in your car instead.

mickl

11 posts

238 months

Sunday 4th July 2004
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Alex said:
I won a complete SmartNav system including installation and one year's subcription (worth £750) for my Autocar "Letter of the Week". However, I already have satnav in both my cars, so if someone wants to make me an offer, I can instruct Trafficmaster to install it in your car instead.


£200?

cheesesliceking

1,571 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th July 2004
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Smartnav is brilliant, it works great, easily the best nav software available. & in about 4 Hours i'll be able to tell you how easy it is to remove the thing from ya car along witht the headunit, amp, clifford avanguard & interior neons!..(yes i know very very very sad..)as im taking it out of a friends now he's parting the with the dumb 206cc

siptec

1 posts

237 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Smartnav fitted to my New CLK is a total Disaster.
It send s me out of my route all the time.
The operators say call us back your signall is weak all the time.
And the installation has caused problems with the car computer.INVALIDATING THE WARANTEE.
Do Smartnav give any assistance NOTHING JUST TAKE MONEY BY DIRECT DEBIT>
MY ADVICE! DONT BUY SMARTNAV " ITS A PIECE OF JUNK"

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Monday 19th July 2004
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I've had smartnav in the disco for almost a year now and have found it great. I did go for the external gps/gsm antenna so maybe that makes a difference.

At some point any nav system is going to get cinfused with a change in the road that it doesnt have. But i've found it good.

a while ago for some reason it used to take me off the m40 at j3 straight across the roundabout and back on the m40 ???? but the map has now been updated.

It also put me on the M6 toll without me realising as it called it the m6 rather than the m6 toll but i guess thats the Governments fault for giving the road a stupid name the same as another motorway.. its like calling the m25 the m1 london as its joined to the m1!!!

I have found it very usefull to be able to talk to the operators as they are very good at locating adresses for you. and you can ask them all sorts like direct me to a shell station when looking for optimax or the nearest cash point ect. although they could update the db with a list of indian resturants currently its all big chain stuff.

the dynamic traffic re-routing is also good. although one thing that needs looking at is, if when you set off there is a traffic jam say 60 miles ahead it will route you round it. but by the time you get there it may be clear. it doent check to see if you can go back to the original route. but i suppose that is a difficult option to add.

I've also go tthe speed camera db and the vechicle tracker options which make the whole thing cost effective.


all imho

cheers

G

jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th November 2004
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More reviews please as I like the idea of this but nothing is better than hearing users feedback

simonrockman

6,852 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th November 2004
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I was talking to the MD of Trafficmaster yesterday and he said that they specifically have problems with TVRs: A noisy convertible isn't ideal for a voice operated system.

They do have an optional headphone and an optional LCD, but the voice-only product needs something quieter.

He claims that they are getting really quick at updating the speed camera database.

Simon

jjr1

3,023 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th November 2004
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This will be going in a 911 so noise should not be a problem. I just like the idea of combining everything, tracker,sat-nav and speed camera detector into one package.

I am also keen to have a sat nav that takes account of traffic conditions

tansdale

1 posts

233 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Hi All,

I'm also looking at SmartNav, but I have a question which I hope someone can help me with.

I currently have TrafficMaster Oracle, which is always active and gives me advance notice of traffic delays up ahead. Does SmartNav do this as well? I know it can re-route you around jams if you've programmed in a route, but if I'm driving to work (along the M4) will it always tell me of delays ahead? I wouldn't expect to program the route to work every day since I know the way pretty well by now! ;-)

Other than that it sounds just the baby, especially with the speed cam option!

Cheers,

Steve

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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I sell Smartnav at work and we have it in a few of our demos, it really is good.

I'd recommend it particularly to people who aren't good with computers / consumer electronics, once it is installed you only have to press one button to do everything.

It isn't infallible and occasionally makes mistakes but then so does my Medion PDA system (it tries to drive me into the sea near my home).

The best thing is the extra services, for £100 you can have the Stolen Vehicle Locater option (plus £8 per month IIRC), another £6 per month gets you Safespeed, a speed camera location system.

If you are a tech head you would probably prefer a full screen job but if you are on a budget and want all the above mentioned bits it does work out cheap (£300 for Tracker? £3-400 for Road Angel et al, £400 for PDA based system).

spicy

246 posts

236 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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We considered this when we bought the L200 but decided against it as we wanted a removable system to transfer between the three cars. Have they made SmartNav transferable as we haven't found a system I like yet. I would ideally like it to be satnav, laser jammer, accident blackspot indicator, mobile and fixed gatso detection - then everything bar Trafpol covered.