Type Approval for Tuscan S

Type Approval for Tuscan S

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supercopa

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167 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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it seems that the Tuscan S got a "Car Type Approval" for England witch is numbered Type LC333/A/034

in order to get it I assume TVR has given some cars to the Transport Regulation Administration in UK and these cars have been succesfully tested for a lot of things as Emissions, Brakes, Lightning, Noise and soever...

What I need are the official tests results for this Approval Type in order to get it registered in France.

Does anyone know where and how I should ask for them successfully? thanks.

supercopa

Original Poster:

167 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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is it VCA ?

glow worm

6,452 posts

241 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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I have a BRITISH NATIONAL TYPE APPROVAL document for my Tuscan 2 S
It has a serial no. AA03639
and is specific to the VIN of my car
states it conforms to Ministers approval certificate number LC333/A/034

Exact wording is as follows:-
""Ministers approval certificate for a low volume motor vehicle of a type covered by a previous certificate

The Secretary of state for transport, being satisfied that the low volume type approval vehicle which has been manufactured by TVR Engineering Ltd. and has the vehicle identification or chassis number SDLTCxxxxxxxx conforms with the vehicle to which Ministers Approval certificate number LC333/A/034 relates, hereby certifies in pursuance of section 58(4) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 that the vehicle which has vehicle identification or chassis number mentioned above complies with type approval requirements which are to in that Ministers Approval Certificate.""




Take deep pause for breath.......


It is also embosed with HM Gov. stamp date 03-02-06 and the letters V C A

I guess one would have been supplied with your car aswell when new.





Edited by glow worm on Thursday 18th September 21:42

supercopa

Original Poster:

167 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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thanks, your document is a COC "Certificate of Conformity... to a type approval"

my need is to get the papers which states : a car given by TVR to the authorities has passed this test successfully, this other one successfully etc... so we authorize TVR plant to produce cars like this one under the approval type LC333/A/034 and sell them in order to be used on our roads.

glow worm

6,452 posts

241 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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I think you need to go to TVR for that...I'll see if I can find out the telephone number of "The Barn" at Wesham may be the people there could help you out....I'll e-mail if I can get hold of it, but it will be next week.

Edited by glow worm on Thursday 18th September 23:06

supercopa

Original Poster:

167 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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thank you very much indeed

glow worm

6,452 posts

241 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Had another thought .. Speak to James Birkby at TVR MADS http://www.tvr-mads.co.uk/info.asp?show=5 , he has exported a number of TVRs to France
I'm told by Heath Briggs that he is very helpfull....so mention Heaths name as recommending him.


Edited by glow worm on Friday 19th September 11:16

GT TVR

1,627 posts

296 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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supercopa said:
it seems that the Tuscan S got a "Car Type Approval" for England witch is numbered Type LC333/A/034

in order to get it I assume TVR has given some cars to the Transport Regulation Administration in UK and these cars have been succesfully tested for a lot of things as Emissions, Brakes, Lightning, Noise and soever...

What I need are the official tests results for this Approval Type in order to get it registered in France.

Does anyone know where and how I should ask for them successfully? thanks.
hi,

I'll be bringing a Tuscan 2S to France soon. I understand from my (UK)dealer that you need a certain document from TVR that shows that it follows the EEC regulations. The UK low volume type approval is of no use in France.
I hope to know more next month.
Let's keep each other informed.

Edited by GT TVR on Friday 19th September 12:37

supercopa

Original Poster:

167 posts

208 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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yes I already have this document from TVR stating my car is OK for EEC regulations because the type approval for England has been made in order to.

but that was without thinking like french administration does andnow wants the proof that the type approval for England number LC333/A/034 really follows the EEC regulations as stated by TVR in my document...

that's why I need the tests results for this type approval. I think I could find it by the UK government services, is it right?

brem

187 posts

298 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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hi supercopa,
i have registration papers for germany and switzerland for my tuscan s. i don't know if this helps?
if you thinks so, email me to tuscan@hispeed.ch

cheers..........peter

GT TVR

1,627 posts

296 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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brem said:
hi supercopa,
i have registration papers for germany and switzerland for my tuscan s. i don't know if this helps?
if you thinks so, email me to tuscan@hispeed.ch

cheers..........peter
hi Peter,

You have mail. Thanks!

GT TVR

1,627 posts

296 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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supercopa said:
yes I already have this document from TVR stating my car is OK for EEC regulations because the type approval for England has been made in order to.

but that was without thinking like french administration does andnow wants the proof that the type approval for England number LC333/A/034 really follows the EEC regulations as stated by TVR in my document...

that's why I need the tests results for this type approval. I think I could find it by the UK government services, is it right?
Ah... good to know. I think the problem is that the Low Volume Vehicle Approval doesn't meet the EEC regulations. Who did your document from TVR? Maybe he/she will know where to get the other document.

Furthermore, I spoke to Romain from (former) TVR France about this and he said every car has to be individually tested by the French authorities. Some will approve it, some won't. There are a few (2?) Tuscan 2S's on French plates but the local test centre won't care, they want to test it themselves.

But maybe with the right documents ...
With a copy of the German papers maybe?

Edited by GT TVR on Friday 19th September 14:32

jeffsy

5,489 posts

241 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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Guys

I hope you domnt mind me looking in on this thread.

I am currently negotiating with a French buyer on my Griff so could do with some help as well. It seems this Certificate of Conformity is an issue however if there isnt one can I read into this that all is not lost? That individual Departements will want to see/test the car anyway, regardless of the paperwork?

If that is so then the paperwork, presumable, eases the passage rather than sorts it completely

Cheers

Graham

TVRinBFG

1,458 posts

298 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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Graham has contacted me by email, so I thought I’d try and reply here. My understanding is that an eec citizen should be allowed to import a vehicle freely from another eec country, if the vehicle is registered and roadworthy there; but that the bureaucracy in France, whilst not acting illegally, is contra to these rules. But I can’t see your local MEP taking this fight up on your behalf.

There also doesn’t seem to be any hard-set instruction to import a TVR to France, but things change by Region. French speakers should look at http://www.tvrcarclub-france.net/forum/index.php where there are a couple of topics on importing cars.

The Tuscan and Griffith don't have a COC, instead they have a submac, which looks a little bit like the old fashion UK MOT certificate. You might be able to get a copy of yours from your supplying dealer if he kept all the cars records (unlikely) or from
http://www.vca.gov.uk/additional/files/other-certi...
although I don't know how useful having it will be, as unlike the COC it doesn't tell you anything; and this assumes the car was on UK plates when it was supplied to the supplying dealer.

I sold a ’96 Griffith to a Frenchman in May (without COC or submac) and he had the car tested and it past easily and was on French plates virtually straight away. But it cost him nearly Euro2000 to do the test.

GT TVR

1,627 posts

296 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Any update on getting the Tuscan registered in France?

supercopa

Original Poster:

167 posts

208 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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no news from the regulation services at this time, thanks for your interest smile

GT TVR

1,627 posts

296 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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supercopa said:
no news from the regulation services at this time, thanks for your interest smile
Any news on the test results? Assume you are dealing with the DRIRE?

Have to admit it's not just being nice, but as said before I'll be trying to register a Tuscan in France soon too, so would like to learn from your experience in this matter.

BTW where do you live in France? Maybe we can organise a mini TVR/Tuscan meet some time.