RE: SSC Stylus

Tuesday 23rd September 2003

SSC Stylus

Better than a Caterham? Graham Bell takes a look


SSC Stylus

Take a Caterham 7 and clothe it in a curvy full-width body offering better aerodynamics, increased passenger comfort and secure luggage space and what have you got? That’s right, a Caterham 21.

However, Caterham aren’t the only - or indeed the first – company to make use of the potential offered by mating a lightweight spaceframe roadster chassis to a lightweight wind-cheating body. Ginetta did it to great effect back in the 1960s with the G4, which later spawned the G27, while the concept has also been used very successfully by Jeremy Phillips of Sylva.

Chances are most PH readers haven’t heard of Jeremy Phillips, but his cars regularly beat the Caterfields in kit car racing, winning the 750MC kit car series nine times in 12 years. The car featured here uses chassis developed from a championship winning car.

Phoenix, Fury, Stylus

Evolved from a narrow-bodied 7 style roadster called the Sylva Striker by way of full bodied variants called the Phoenix and Fury - all of which have successful competition histories - the Stylus was designed to provide a more practical road-biased alternative with more interior space and a boot lid.


Room for a few cauliflowers and a crate of beer

Now as you’ll have noticed, the title says SSC Stylus, not Sylva Stylus. That’s because in 1996 production rights were sold to long time car nut and one time Fury builder Peter Powell, who found himself faced with early retirement just as the rights went up for sale, with the result that Specialist Sports Cars was born.

When Peter took on the Stylus it was designed to use mechanical parts from a Mk 2 Escort, but with these becoming ever harder to find, SSC have since developed it to take more modern parts and were one of the first kit car companies to fit the Zetec engine.

Zetec Power

The venerable X-flow is still an option, but these days Zetecs or 16-valve Vauxhall engines tend to be the power units of choice, though various other twin cams have been fitted, as has the Rover V8! Not surprisingly, the lightweight nature of the Stylus also makes it suitable for bike engines too, though SSC don’t rate them for road use.

For rear suspension the Stylus originally used the Escort’s live axle, located by leading upper and trailing lower arms plus a Panhard rod, with adjustable coilover dampers mounted to the lower arms just ahead of the axle. SSC’s newer alternative is a De Dion axle using the diff and narrowed drive shafts from a Sierra. Like the live axle this too uses leading upper and trailing lower arms (the same ones in fact) but has a Watts linkage rather than a Panhard rod.

However, the live axle still remains a popular choice, especially with the competition crowd, mainly due to the wider range of diffs available, though they tend to ditch the drum brakes in favour of SSC’s disc conversion. 

SSC Stylus

 

And bigger, better brakes are why most people choose the newer Sierra based suspension over the original Escort option for the front. Actually, in either case the majority of the fully adjustable set-up is custom made, comprising lower wishbones with upper rocker arms linked to vertical inboard coilover units, with the only real difference being the use of Sierra stub axles as opposed to ones made from cut down Escort struts.

Not all the changes SSC have made to the Stylus’ suspension have been to accommodate newer parts though, because they decided that while Jeremy Phillip’s original set-up was undoubtedly very good, it could nonetheless be improved upon. Consequently, most of the original Metalastic bushes have been replaced by urethane ones while the rocker arms now pivot on needle roller bearings rather than nylon bushes, resulting in more positive location and feedback without in any way adversely affecting that race-proven handling.

Style

But – as has been covered at length on PH before in respect of certain other cars – it’s not much good having a car with superb handling if people are put off by the styling. Well that’s not likely with the Stylus, which has an attractive 1960s look, and aesthetically the only thing about it that generally grates is the hotch-potch of individual light units on the back of the demonstrator. This might be the easy way to satisfy legal requirements but it’s hardly stylish, so many owners opt for more work setting in multi-function units which produces an altogether neater looking back end. Some people aren’t keen on the demonstrator’s Porsche 356 style headlamp covers either, preferring the optional 1960’s race style Perspex bubble fairings instead.

SSC Stylus

On the subject of race style, you can’t fail to have noticed that the demonstrator sports door roundels and other markings indicating that that it sees some competition use - which it does, in the form of both road rallies and hillclimbs. Add to that the fact that the demonstrator is now six years old, and it should come as no surprise to learn that it’s rather tatty around the edges, but overall it seems to be standing up to all the use and abuse quite well which says a lot about the basic integrity of the engineering.

Mechanically the demonstrator uses a disc braked live axle, Escort derived front uprights and a Webered 1800cc Zetec engine producing around 145bhp, so it’s not particularly powerful – but then of course lightweight sportscars don’t need to be. Just how lightweight is the Stylus? That obviously depends on the engine etc, but a normal car-engined ‘road spec’ Stylus will tip the scales around the 625kg mark. With the optional lightweight chassis and body and a bike engine it’ll be nearer 425kg. Now that’s light.

Creature Comforts

The reason for the modest power output is that the demonstrator was originally built as a pure road car rather than for competition use, which also explains why you’ll find both a heater and SSC’s full if understandably rather basic trim package fitted to the interior. Entry to this through the small doors isn’t too difficult, at least with the hood off, and though the racing seats currently fitted to the demonstrator definitely favour those of slim build, there is enough width in the cockpit to accommodate those of slightly broader stature providing wider bum perches are used.

SSC Stylus

Typically for this type of car, driving position is of the low slung straight leg variety with pedals mounted straight ahead, and while foot room is more generous than in a 7 narrow footwear is still advisable.

At the time of testing the car was set up for hillclimbing so had firm suspension settings, and while this did it no favours over bumps around town it certainly paid dividends along the twisty undulating roads that SSC’s mid-Wales base is surrounded by.

Handling

The Stylus’ body control and composure through the corners was excellent, with a marked lack of perceptible roll despite the absence of anti-roll bars and surefooted grip from the 185/60x14 Yokohama A539s adding up to a confidence inspiring package. A very communicative one too thanks those urethane bushes and the back axle bouncing up and down just a few inches from your backside. This ‘seat of the pants’ feel combines with the roar of the exhaust and the smell of petrol from the Webers to provide the sort of truly intimate driving involvement that only a lightweight roadster can.

With its low weight and low 4.1:1 gearing, the Stylus built up speed at a very respectable rate (in this state it should do 0-60 in just over 5 seconds and around 125mph) and with a 2.4 turn Escort quick rack providing positive, direct steering that was a joy to use, it felt nimble and responsive along the winding mountain roads.

Sadly my stint behind the wheel was rather brief, but it was great fun, and thanks to those terrific Welsh roads even a short run was enough to confirm that the Stylus has all the right ingredients to satisfy a true sports car enthusiast.

It’s also amusing to note that a 200bhp Zetec powered Stylus owned by the former series director of Channel 4’s Driven posted the quickest overall time through their handling course, but typically the powers that be wouldn’t let him cover it on the programme. Well, it wouldn’t do to have some kit car made with old Ford bits showing up those awfully nice Porsches now would it?

Costs

SSC say it’s possible to build a bargain basement X-Flow powered Stylus for under £6,000, with £8-9,000 being more typical for a home built Zetec powered car of similar spec. to the demonstrator.

But if you rate outright performance as more important than comfort or practicality then you’ll want the latest Stylus RT with revised bodywork, cut down screen, front splitter, rear diffuser and wing.

Although sadly not road legal at the time of my visit, SSC’s new RT demonstrator with a 225bhp version of Ford’s four-cylinder Duratec has already proved itself capable of matching Caterham’s R400 on the track, yet can be built for just half the price.

Which means you can enjoy the same high level of performance while still having plenty of money left over for track day fees…

© Copyright Graham Bell 2003

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AndySA

Original Poster:

900 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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This is a great looking little car. On top of my list for when I have the time and place to build one.

sagalout

17,846 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Been around a while now. Looked at a V8 one in blue a few years ago, nicely built car at least as good as an Elise with regard to performance, handling (?) and practicality. Easily worked on to. Probably more comfortable to drive on motorways & long journeys cos of the bodywork & screen. Would have one over a 7, after driving 7's for umpteen years

Sparks

1,217 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Anything from about 4-5K (stylus, phoenix, fisher fury all pretty much the same) for an early one up to about 12K for a (basic) fully factory built car.

I saw a BEC fury a couple of days ago with a 900cc kawazaki (sp?) for 7K.

Sparks

Sparks

1,217 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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There isn't much in it. They both started of as developments on the Sylva striker, the rights to the stylus/fury were sold seperatley and each has been developed slightly differently by it's new owner.
I see the key differences as cosmetic (SSC has a small boot too), although I believe there are some minor mechanical differences. Have a look at each website

www.fishersportscars.co.uk
www.specialistsportscars.com

Sparks

mark b

1,621 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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mungo said:
Whats better a Fisher Fury or a Stylus??

A couple of Fury's caught my eye at this years Le Mans



I've got one

I am biased of course but I prefer the Stylus over the Fury purely for practicalities. They have a little more room inside and they have a boot. The chassis are similar, but not quite the same although they do have the same basic suspension set up.

Having said that, if you want one purely for track a 2nd hand Fury is possibly better as they are slightly lighter than the early Stylus. If you are going to build one yourself then the Stylus is now produced with a lighter weight chassis.

The Fury has better under bonnet access too, but then the Stylus can also be modified to have a flip front, now where's my jigsaw??

I have owned a Striker and now the Stylus and can confirm they are great little cars and handle fantastically........

Just need to get mine back on the road......
Mark B

>> Edited by Mark B on Thursday 25th September 21:21

mark b

1,621 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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mungo said:
Mark - Let us know when yours is sorted. Wouldn't mind a spin in it to show me what it's all about if you would be so kind?


No problem, it would be a pleasure. I am only in Worthing and the car started it's build in Bishops Waltham, which is near you I believe......... Houx Annexe roundabout - 2004, may well be a plan!

Sparks

1,217 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Also forgot to mention, that one difference is the fury is available with IRS.

Sparks

Kevp

582 posts

251 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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My Stylus is getting close now.
Had problems with petrol tank -= now sorted.
When SVA cleared & reg can meet at Bishops Waltham.
Cant wait to run.

Kev

golem

58 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th September 2003
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It's a pretty little car. I really like it. Seems to be just enough practicality to get by on.

Hard to get the bits for one over here though, and I need to graduate first. Ah well...

grahambell

2,718 posts

275 months

Monday 29th September 2003
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golem said:
It's a pretty little car. I really like it. Seems to be just enough practicality to get by on.

Hard to get the bits for one over here though, and I need to graduate first. Ah well...


Hi golem,

I know that SSC have agents selling the Stylus in a number of countries, but not sure about Oz. Might be worth getting in touch to ask when you've graduated though...

GTA

183 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th September 2003
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I drove this very car about five years ago. The looks are very good and the handling is awesome around the twisties, so it makes a good track car for tight circuits. In real life it doesn't actually feel as fast as the numbers suggest in a straght line. I expect your girlfrinds TT will eat it alive in that respect. A lack of low down grunt makes revving it's nuts off par for the course.

Unfortunately it has quite a few drawbacks so I wouldn't even consider it for the road. The old sierra gearbox is a real pain in the arse to change gear - very notchy with massive throw. Also the interior has the kind of fit and finish that makes a fiat 500 look like a Mercedes S Class. For an overall package it doesn't even come close to an S1 elise.

For £5k as a dedicated track car though, it's ok.

JenkinsComp

918 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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I run a Sylva Fury with a Vauxhall XE and Nitrous, around 250bhp in 620kg. Until this year when this became a race car I drove it as my only road car since it was built in 1996. As has been previously stated, the Stylus is a more practical than the Fury in that it has a boot, and slightly different styling around the headlights and tail.
But to compare one of these to an Elise is to miss the point entirely. The Fury/Striker/Stylus are all cars designed primarily for home assembly, are far far cheaper to maintain and insure (£200 fully comp) than an Elise, and due to the weight advantage have better braking braking, acceleration, handling and economy than an equivalently powered Elise.
If you're considering an Elise then you probably are also considering a Toyota MR2 or MGF. If you're considering a Sylva then you are looking for a cheaper alternative to a Caterham. These are two very different markets and each car is better at the market they are intended for - they certainly are not competitors. If you are not averse to lack of creature comforts then a Sylva or a Caterham offer an adrenaline hit only motorcyclists can appreciate. An Elise doesn't come close in that respect.
The Caterham 7 is a better developed car (but they've has 45 years to do that so it ought to be) compared to my own Fury, but that is why they cost considerably more than the Sylva, and is the reason why I bought a Fury over a Caterham as I could have more grunt for the same money (and they look bloody lovely!)

mark b

1,621 posts

265 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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JenkinsComp said:
I run a Sylva Fury with a Vauxhall XE and Nitrous, around 250bhp in 620kg. Until this year when this became a race car I drove it as my only road car since it was built in 1996. As has been previously stated, the Stylus is a more practical than the Fury in that it has a boot, and slightly different styling around the headlights and tail.
But to compare one of these to an Elise is to miss the point entirely. The Fury/Striker/Stylus are all cars designed primarily for home assembly, are far far cheaper to maintain and insure (£200 fully comp) than an Elise, and due to the weight advantage have better braking braking, acceleration, handling and economy than an equivalently powered Elise.
If you're considering an Elise then you probably are also considering a Toyota MR2 or MGF. If you're considering a Sylva then you are looking for a cheaper alternative to a Caterham. These are two very different markets and each car is better at the market they are intended for - they certainly are not competitors. If you are not averse to lack of creature comforts then a Sylva or a Caterham offer an adrenaline hit only motorcyclists can appreciate. An Elise doesn't come close in that respect.
The Caterham 7 is a better developed car (but they've has 45 years to do that so it ought to be) compared to my own Fury, but that is why they cost considerably more than the Sylva, and is the reason why I bought a Fury over a Caterham as I could have more grunt for the same money (and they look bloody lovely!)




I was going to put a message on but couldn't be bothered as GTA had totally missed the point...

What you also didn't mention is that a Sylva will run rings around any Elise on track and road as the Elise has some very dangerous handling characteristics..... :ducksforcover:

Also, was it you that was on the programme on Men and Motors on the fastest road car in Britain???? If so, lovely car and well written article in the Dwindling Dot!!!

ssc

1 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd October 2003
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Hi All

We will have our STYLUS RT at Pembury this coming Saturday October 4TH for one of their very rare car TrackDays

Pete

AndySA

Original Poster:

900 posts

263 months

Friday 3rd October 2003
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Hi SSC

It's good to see you on this forum. I look forward to your manufacturer input. Your RT sounds amazing from what I have read so far. I look forward to a full review of it with it's new duratec engine.

Andy

JenkinsComp

918 posts

247 months

Friday 3rd October 2003
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mark b said:



I was going to put a message on but couldn't be bothered as GTA had totally missed the point...

What you also didn't mention is that a Sylva will run rings around any Elise on track and road as the Elise has some very dangerous handling characteristics..... :ducksforcover:

Also, was it you that was on the programme on Men and Motors on the fastest road car in Britain???? If so, lovely car and well written article in the Dwindling Dot!!!



Yep thats me on the Men & Motors programme, and writing in the Dot. Thanks for the compliment - it should go to Sylva though really as they designed it so well! I'm glad you enjoyed the article in the Dot, it was good fun that day even though I knew I had no chance before we raced! The Audi Quattro Sport that won didn't have an alternator and needed a guy with a laptop to start it each time...road car? Hmm...technically yes. Really? No.
The title sequence on the programme was on board footage shot from my Camaro chasing some bikes back from the A40 to my house!

>> Edited by JenkinsComp on Friday 3rd October 14:47

mark b

1,621 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd October 2003
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Jenkinscomp

Hopefully we will meet up at some point, I have always wanted a squirt of N2O in my Stylus, once the zetec is in place I may well drop you a line to discuss it......

Cheers,
Mark

JenkinsComp

918 posts

247 months

Friday 3rd October 2003
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mark b said:
Jenkinscomp

Hopefully we will meet up at some point, I have always wanted a squirt of N2O in my Stylus, once the zetec is in place I may well drop you a line to discuss it......

Cheers,
Mark


I'll be at RAW Engineering tomorrow for the open day.
Look for the Camaro with Jenkins Competition on the side...that'll be me

If you can't come along, feel free to drop me a line.
Trust me Nitrous is FUN and safe to use with your engine.

Mark B

1,621 posts

265 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Sorry to restart an old thread, but it has an article on the car in question.

What with family commitments and a severe lack of time available, i am looking to sell my Stylus. I won't go into this as I need to put an add up in the classifieds, but basically I am looking to sell a rolling chassis/shell complete with wiring, instruments, plumbing, rear lights, etc.

I must stress, this car has a valid ragistration having been SVA'd last year.

Drop me an email if anyone is interested, I am looking for £3500 for the rolling shell/chassis.

Lot's other parts available.

Cheers
Mark

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Mark, YHM.